Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Lambert and Payne on April 26, 2011, 09:48:39 PM
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Apolagies if this thread pops up alot, but just what are your feelings towards them? Do you hate them? Do you see it as a derby but not particuarly hate them, not care about them?
Personally, i really dont like em, i wouldn't say it was hate but there fans do my head in with one decent season and there giving it the billy big bollocks. Although it is fun to pretend not to care, they really hate that more than anything else
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I never really give them a second thought.
It's probably because I'm from South Brum, so never really encountered Albion fans as a kid, as there weren't any. It was all about hating Blues for us.
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Indifference. Our class at school had 11 boys; 5 Villa, 5 Small Heaf and 1 Villa 'fan' but West Brom supporter.
I've never known a genuine West Brom fan.
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I hope they go out of business. Then rise up the divisions... and then go out of business again.
Daft little club with the most annoying supporters imaginable. They're the village idiots of the top flight.
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Complete and utter apathy from me.
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Solihull massive was all about hating the Blues when I was growing up. Even then though they weren't in the same league as us for ages, so I never really experienced a derby game until the 2000's.
We had a family of Albion round the corner from us, a right load of oddballs they were. Other than that, a couple of blokes at work who tried to take the piss every now and then but they were always easy to see off, mainly by taking the piss out of their mad accent.
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They've got stripes and they go
boing boing
What's not to like?
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I like Albion. When Villa were not in the First division I regularly went to watch them on alternative Saturdays.
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Indifferent, but find it rather amusing that our indifference pisses them off so much as many of their fans hate us more than Wolves but to us are insignificant.They're a step up from Coventry in insignificance......just .
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I've never really minded them that much, probably as others have said, because I'm a south Birmingham lad and the couple of baggies fans I knew hated small heath too
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Indifferent, but find it rather amusing that our indifference pisses them off so much as many of their fans hate us more than Wolves but to us are insignificant.They're a step up from Coventry in insignificance......just .
I beg to differ.....
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Most of their fans are braindead peasants and West Bromwich as a town is like some giant open-air lavatory, but otherwise they're not a bad bunch.
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Not particularly anti-Albion but acknowledge it's an historical rivalry and want to beat them. Never really had any trouble with their fans... unlike Small Heath. I even think Frank Skinner is quite funny sometimes. That's me barred from this site.
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It depends where you were born and raised, I spent most of my life in East Birmingham and despite moving away still have an unquenchable hatred for Small Heath fuelled, in the main, by my experiences when coming into contact with their "fans".
I now live in a pretty strong Albion part of the BC but theres plenty of Villa and we seem to co-exist together in a way I could never imagine back in Brum.
If we loose to Small Heath I spiral into depression for a fortnight, loose to the Baggies and despite being mightly pissed off, it doesn't take me long to get it out of my system. Well, I think it doesn't, after all it's been a long time.
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Indifferent, but find it rather amusing that our indifference pisses them off so much as many of their fans hate us more than Wolves but to us are insignificant.They're a step up from Coventry in insignificance......just .
I beg to differ.....
I know, but I know one baggie and he's 10 in my daughters class.The plastic Mancs/lpool/Chelsea piss me off much more than Blues,Wolves and baggies put together
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Much like Wolves, there fans do my head in at times but strangely I always find myself wanting them to do well, well not do well as in winning trophies etc, but i prefer them in the top division than out of it, I certainly don't hate them, more of a mild irritation when we play them but not much after that.
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Much like Wolves, there fans do my head in at times but strangely I always find myself wanting them to do well, well not do well as in winning trophies etc, but i prefer them in the top division than out of it, I certainly don't hate them, more of a mild irritation when we play them but not much after that.
Sums up my feelings pretty well.
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I don't have any really strong feelings about them any more apart from acknowledging the fact that they have played decent, if not always effective, football.
I had a strong dislike of them in my teens after we played them in the League Cup early in the ghastly 69/70 season at Villa Park; they were in Division 1 and we were in Division 2 on route to Division 3. For some reason I ended up with a lot of Villa fans in the Witton End and it all kicked off big time with bricks flying everywhere. And we lost.
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Much like Wolves, there fans do my head in at times but strangely I always find myself wanting them to do well, well not do well as in winning trophies etc, but i prefer them in the top division than out of it, I certainly don't hate them, more of a mild irritation when we play them but not much after that.
This is how I feel, although I do find it amusing how much they hate us. I really couldn't care less about them, our derby game is Small Heath as far as I'm concerned.
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Don't care about them or the blues they're both irrelevant
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My Mom's side of the family are all baggies fans (from Smethwick) and despite that, I don't have a problem with them, in fact I have a soft spot for them. Growing up in Solihull, it was always Blues that were the rivals, no Baggies fans around.
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It's a derby but i dont hate them. My dad was a Baggies fan in his youth. I've said it before, if there had been no Villa back in 1988 i'd have been a WBA fan - but fortunately there was a Villa back then so thats me claret and blue for life. I dont mind seeing WBA doing well provided they arent beating us or generally getting the upper hand which they havent in my supporting life time. My first memory of playing them was the 1990 FA Cup tie when Daley scored a screamer in a 2-0 win so happy memories of this fixture and i hope it continues.
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Growing up first in Chase Terrace and then Great Barr we had plenty of Albion fans around so to me it was a massive game as a kid. Generally I have found them ok, but that is because for most of my life we have easily had the upper hand, even at their place, so it was easy to fend them off. It is definitely always a big game for me, but much less so since I moved from Brum. Over the years I think this rivalry has diminished whilst that with the noses has ramped up.
Off the top of my head I can’t remember us losing to them since 1985 away, a very depressing game in a very depressing era.
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I like the Baggies. My brother supports them and I used to go down to the Hawthorns with him when Villa were away.
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I'm going to have to vent some anger - they're a bunch of wankers.
Another small club whose fans are obsessed with all things Villa, while the majorority ( i.e. more than 50%) of Villa fans don't give a toss about them.
Tossers.
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Growing up had no issues with them, didn't know any Albion fans and we hardly ever played them. That all changed the day Alex Cropley had his leg broken and those bastards celebrated.
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Laughable wankers.
Massive delusions of grandeur to boot.
Fuck them, Fuck Frank Skinner and Fuck Adrian Chiles.
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Worked in Smethwick for 10 years after leaving school. I was one of the very few Villa supporters in a company that employed around 2,000 people. When I wasn't over at Small Heath with my bluenose mate on alternate Saturdays, I was at the Hawthorns with my work mates. I liked the Albion fans and still do. There are of course a lot more stupid gobshite wankers around these days, but that's the same for any club, including the Villa.
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The rivalry in the 70s and early 80s was pretty fierce and that's where my feelings still sit. They were a hard uncompromising side then, but good aswell. The games used to be every bit as venomous as Blose have been in recent seasons.
Strange that the rivalry seems to have mellowed - I think that may be due to them not beating us for such a long time. That may change at the weekend.
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Are you going to tell them why you don't like them, Dave?
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Lowest form of life lower than a snake’s belly. Oh and I do not like them.
When they play small heath sad to say on that day I am a nose.
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Have baggie uncle and cousin so want them to do well except when playing us of course.
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They are our historical rivals and as such I'm pleased that they're in the top division, provided they don't do too well.
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They're somewhere inbetween SHA and Coventry
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never really thought that much about them tbh...
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I don't like them there fans are a bunch of toss pots I can't stand that Adrian Chiles when flicking through his book he bad mouthed the Villa in it no need for that so can't stand them they are never going to pose a threat to us.
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Why were you reading his book?
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Lowest form of life lower than a snake’s belly. Oh and I do not like them.
When they play small heath sad to say on that day I am a nose.
Bloody hell mate, steady on !!
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Im a bit meh on them really, I don't like Chiles the sour faced wanker, but I have been down when I got the offer of a free ticket once otr twice, They are not as irritating as Blues but my one mate gets a bit on his high horse when we beat them, He always thinks we cheated by diving and getting free kicks, he's a bit bitter about the 2-1 from a couple of years ago.
For that reason I want to beat them as I want to beat any team we play but I don't hate them, I reserve that for Blues
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I feel sorry for them & pity their little fans.
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Growing up in Shropshire I always used to dislike Wolves more because there were more of them about and they were all over the local paper. Plus they looked most likely to come up and challenge us (mid 90s). However I've taken a real dislike to Albion since they've been up. They've been consistently crap, even the year they stayed up they didn't get 40 points, but they act like they're something special. When Mowbray (who I really dislike) slagged us after we beat them the other season it really wound me up. He was criticising us yet they were bottom and we were 3rd. Never liked them since even though he's gone
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As a kid when we were in the Third and Second Divisions it was at First Division Albion where I'd first experience seeing top players in "real life" - Bobby Charlton, George Best, Charlie Cooke, Billy Bremner etc. You'd get a lot of Villa fans at their games against Utd, Chelsea, Leeds etc.
Football was affordable in the 70s and 80s so I'd always find a local game to go to if Villa weren't playing, usually midweek. I'd go down the Blues always wanting the opposition to win, but at Albion I would just to go to watch football without caring who won. And I feel pretty much the same way now if they're on tele.
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I grew up in Smethwick in the 60s and 70s and while there were quite a few Villa at my schools there were a lot of Albion who were all too willing to gloat when they beat us, which they used to do a fair bit until the mid 70s. Of course most of them hardly ever went to a game, but that didn't stop them. So I hated Albion and losing to them far more than Blues, who didn't seem to have many fans round our way. Since then I suppose I've stopped seeing them as big rivals, plus some of my oldest mates are season ticket holders and I think they are a decent club with a good tradition, so I've developed something of a soft spot for them, which I never ever thought would happen. Still hope we beat the bastards though. I think they might actually establish themselves and become rivals again under Hodgson.
On the other hand the events of 2002-2003 have made me despise the Blues and some of their fans.
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I've hated some of their players for what they did to ours. The Cropley incident we all know about but there was also the day they kicked lumps out of our team at their place with Graydon going off injured by the butcher Ally Robertson.
That apart I don't really mind the Albion, the friends I have who are Albion fans know where they sit in the pecking order and it's no where near the top. They also don't have or at least don't show that streak of bitterness you associate with those from Bordesley.
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I think they might actually establish themselves and become rivals again under Hodgson.
I'm thinking that too. I get the impression that in the minds of many Albion fans they've already moved ahead of us.
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Nice little local club and funny to see them punch above their weight. If it wasn't for that cnut Ally Brown I'd almost like them but in reality they're just another local team. The games with them always feel like a proper old fashioned derby, good atmosphere, two teams going at it and a Villa win.
The difference between Albion and the Rags is the Albion know their place and generally abide by the rules. Albion at least over the years have something to boost about but still have enough self respect to understand they're happy just to survive and if they can produce a decent team, ever better. The Rags are just scum. Simple as. There's no dignity at the Sty, never has been and probably never will be. They really are a stupid little club.
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One of my enduring memories of Albion was seeing a woman get runover pre-game on the Soho Rd
She got up, brushed herself down and carried on with her day without batting an eyelid, it was a strange afternoon
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Their inverse snobbery is both amusing and irritating. They love to play the down-trodden club and revel in failure.
The fact that if you’d have tuned in to Tom Ross after every match since 1985 then you’d have been regaled by Albion fans of how they’ve outplayed the Villa and how they play football, blah, blah, blah.
I hate them on the day of the game and in the build up, but what I like most about the derby, is the condescension and patronising way we wind them up. While its certainly true for those on the Yammer border or those who live in the Black Country hate them, a great swathe of Villa fans get up the self-proclaimed kings of football noses by metaphorically patting them on the head.
They’re not in the Coventry sphere of “meh”, but the level of general disinterest we show them compared to the volume of hate that comes back our way, amuses me.
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Any Villa fan who says that he likes/doesn't mind/finds em funny or is indifferent to those stripey mofo's needs to live among them for a while, they are scum pure & simple. They generally live in denial, Wolves are apparently their rivals, (although this is largely fabricated rivalry in my opinion) but they save there proper anger for the Villa. It is only our own larger rivalry with the Blues that make us look the other way with regards to them. But trust me if (god forbid) they win on saturday us front line fans will feel just like we all do when the Blues defeat us. That must not happen.
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Complete indifference.
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I live and work in West Brom. The people I work with are mostly Albion, and are really likeable people. the plastic scousers annoy me a lot more. I spend a lot of time in Halesowen as my inlaws live there. The local pubs are always full of Albion fans, who cheer an Albion win as much as a Villa defeat. I really want to beat them, just for shits and giggles. I dont hate them, although I feel I should do. I agree, the indifference really winds them up.
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Having lived in Shirley / Solihull / Kings Norton / Stirchley all my life Olbyon fans have always been scarce to non existent and I have developed an unhealthy and blindingly irrational hatred for SHA. Thanks to my Mother having grown up in Handsworth however she tutored me from afar regarding the reasons as to why I should hate the olbyon!
Other than their bitterness and hatred towards us and their irritation regarding so many of our fans indifference to them I do think their overall pettiness and infantile ignorance to their own failings is their most irritating trait. For example when we lost to Wolves recently we didn't harp on about the Bent penalty being an injustice we merely focussed on our own failings. Olbyon would have cited that as justification for at least a point.
Partisan ignorance like that annoys me more than petty banter. The way they talk about their football, current manager and centre forward makes you appreciate how ignorant and parochial they are. If they beat us, and they have as good a chance as they have for 26 years, they will dine on it for years. They are sad and petty like SHA its just that many of us across Brum never see them to develop our hatred to where it should potentially be!
Have you noticed how much they criticise Gabby, ? I would love it if he gets the winner saturday!
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Grew up in South Brum so only saw Blues and Villa tops with the odd Liverpool/Man U one thrown in. Slightly more interested in Albion than Coventry so not much interest. I hate Blues and that's enough.
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Don't find them particularly offensive in any way. They're not like Wolves or Small Heath, in that they care more about football than beating someone up for no reason.
It is technically a derby, but I've never had any real fuss at work off Baggies fans.
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I've got three Albion mates who all dislike/hate Villa to varying degrees, apparently more than they abhor the Wolves. Though that could be a generational thing - we're all around the 40 mark and I get the impression that the younger lot at their place have more of an antipathy towards the dogheads than to us. I used to really dislike Olbeeyoon when I was at school, but I've felt pretty indifferent about them for a long, long time. So much so I've even been along to a couple of their games with my mates. Got a bit of a shock one time when another one of their lot from Worcester recognised me (i.e. as a Villa fan in the Albion end at Bradford), but there was no bother whatsoever and very little if any in the way of anti-Villa chanting as I remember.
I do think my indifference to them can wind them up at times.
I've no real problem with Chiles but I can't stand that arrogant bell end Frank Skinner.
Anyhow, I save all my real hatred for Small Heath. I've always absolutely detested that horrible little club.
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Oh! I do like to be beside the seaside
I do like to be beside the sea!
I do like to stroll upon the Prom, Prom, Prom!
Where the brass bands play: "F**k off West Brom!"
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And Birmingham!
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trust me if (god forbid) they win on saturday us front line fans will feel just like we all do when the Blues defeat us. That must not happen.
Been so long since West Brom beat us I've forgotten how it feels.
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We must not lose another derby this season
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And Birmingham!
And Coventry! ???
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And Birmingham!
And Zulus!
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they are scum pure & simple.
Steady on mate.
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If my Dad had'nt brought up me and my brother to support Villa, i may well have been 'a Baggie' considering i live in Albion Territory. The very thought sends a shiver down my spine.
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Our traditional rivals ... don't have much feeling for them. It's maybe because I've been out of the region for a while, but Leeds, Barcodes, Spppurrrs, Redscouse and a few others boil my piss somewhat more than the Boggies. Of course, ManUre and the Dogsh*t are at the top of the list.
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Dave W?
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I first encountered Albion fans when we played them in the FA Cup in about '97. Me and my sis got on the train at Walsall and when we got to Bescot we were inundated with Tesco Bags. They took a shine to my sister which saved us a lot of nasty flack probably but they didn't seem altogether bad. They've always struck me as a bit of a joke, like they don't really care what level they are as long as they're existing.
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If my Dad had'nt brought up me and my brother to support Villa, i may well have been 'a Baggie' considering i live in Albion Territory. The very thought sends a shiver down my spine.
Historical similarities for me. Consequently, I have a number of Baggie supporting relatives. The last funeral I went to was one of said relatives. After any interaction with them, I end up feeling conflicted. Grateful that I'm not them and mildly ashamed I feel that way.
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I prefer them to the rags but even that is on a scale of dislike to loathe
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Absolutely hate them, even more than Blues. One size fits all club who want to be the plucky underdogs punching above their weight one minute and the fine upstanding traditional club of yesteryear to be respected alongside other big clubs the next. Ideas way above their station. Fans who make Geordies look modest about how wonderful their support is. Ally Brown who cut down a player in his prime at a time I idolised Villa. Celebrity fans who perpetuate their myths. Boing bloody boing. Smugness about the club that permeates through to every supporters fingertips when they have bugger-all to be smug about. They're small time, no more significant than a Coventry City or Swindon Town in the footballing world yet believe so much more about themselves. They haven't done anything of trophy value for a million years and yo-yo between divisions like a haw's drawers. Well my yo yo at school was crap, every time I let the string go the thing would crash to the floor and dangle in the air like a corpse on the end of a noose. This is my fervent hope for Albion, that they go down, go down again and again and again until the club goes out of business, Morrisons buy the ground, flatten it, and build a store where I can go every week the morning after a vindaloo and curl one down in the bogs on the very spot where their home end once was. I'd buy bunting on the way out and affix it above the entrance before driving off playing Theme From A Silent Movie cranked up to 11. Up yours Albion.
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Absolutely hate them, even more than Blues. One size fits all club who want to be the plucky underdogs punching above their weight one minute and the fine upstanding traditional club of yesteryear to be respected alongside other big clubs the next. Ideas way above their station. Fans who make Geordies look modest about how wonderful their support is. Ally Robertson who cut down a player in his prime at a time I idolised Villa. Celebrity fans who perpetuate their myths. Boing bloody boing. Smugness about the club that permeates through to every supporters fingertips when they have bugger-all to be smug about. They're small time, no more significant than a Coventry City or Swindon Town in the footballing world yet believe so much more about themselves. They haven't done anything of trophy value for a million years and yo-yo between divisions like a haw's drawers. Well my yo yo at school was crap, every time I let the string go the thing would crash to the floor and dangle in the air like a corpse on the end of a noose. This is my fervent hope for Albion, that they go down, go down again and again and again until the club goes out of business, Morrisons buy the ground, flatten it, and build a store where I can go every week the morning after a vindaloo and curl one down in the bogs on the very spot where their home end once was. I'd buy bunting on the way out and affix it above the entrance before driving off playing Theme From A Silent Movie cranked up to 11. Up yours Albion.
Good one...Rant of the month.
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Good one...Rant of the month.
feel better for it thank you Andy, have amended the Brown/Robertson typo now I've calmed down
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So Russon, do you like them or not?
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Can't totally identify with all the sentiments, but I enjoyed that Russon, I really did :D
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Not bad for a beginner. I've seen better.
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A better class of thugs.
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cant we like them?
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cant we like them?
No!
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Living in Cradley I know quite a few of them.
The one thing that irritates me about them is the fact that "we never get any decisions from ref's! I'd rather be in the Championship cos the ref's are fairer."
Of course, that's usually just after they've been relegated. Again.
I don't mind them that much.
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Nice rant from Russon, but Woodhall's from a while back was the best that's ever been posted on here!
Anybody know where it can be found...? (Only cos I can't be arsed to look for it!)
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I'm thinking that too. I get the impression that in the minds of many Albion fans they've already moved ahead of us.
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They think that whenever they go a couple of games unbeaten
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The fact that every time the Hawthorns gets near capacity they can't cope, the Alex Cropley game when they set out for ninety minutes to kick anything in claret and blue, Alan Baker, John Woodward, Ray Graydon, their sanctimonious holier-than-thou we're only a little team and we're going to enjoy ourselves everybody likes us attitude, the fact that their most famous supporter made a career out of humiliating their most famous ex-player - a man who it is now known was suffering from a degenerative brain disease, their absolute hatred of us (and me or Coops can supply a list of places to pop into before or after the match for anyone who thinks that they're all nice and friendly), the time we beat them 7-2 in a reserve match then in the return a month later they had nine of their first team playing because they couldn't bear losing again, their pretence of being nowhere near Birmingham despite their post code and phone number, their stupid jumping up and down and making twats of themselves in the name of atmosphere, letting the likes of Soccer AM makes fools of them and degrading all football supporters everywhere by implication, still going on about Ronnie Allen and 1959 like it's the most important thing to ever happen in their sad, woebegotten lives and it probably is, not being able to get a drink anywhere near the ground, constant whining of it ay fair and the world's against them, just watch tomorrow how many of them blame the referee for all seventeen of our goals, moaning that the local press are biased against them despite the fact that they've got more supporters in the media than us and Small Heath put together, Adrian Chiles, Skinner again, endlessly complaining that they would have won the league in 1979 if the weather hadn't turned cold in January like it wasn't the same for every other club in the first division, bleating on and on and on about how loyal they are just because their crowds didn't get as low as the Wolves like that makes any difference, having the highest percentage of middle aged fat blokes walking round supermarkets in football shirts of anywhere in the world including Newcastle, having a civic reception for finishing third in the third division, showing Ossie Ardiles what Smethwick looks like from the top of a double decker bus then wondering why he fecked off the next week, every time a player leaves them they always moan he's only gone for the money even when they're swapping Smethwick for Madrid, Willie Johnstone, that bloody stupid bird stuck on the top of the scoreboard, those executive boxes with corrugated iron roofs, playing the Liquidator just like their big bad rivals in the Stadium of Yellow, that stupid metal sheeting at the back of the old away end that meant I missed every goal when we were three up at half time there, having to play in the morning in the FA Cup 1990, the half time message in the second division "Will Villa supporters please move forward, there are still some trying to get in", boasting about giving a policeman brain damage at Villa Park in 1978 but they're still nice & friendly, being surrounded by the bastards in the Witton Lane stand in 1974, never enough buses back down Holyhead Road, being the only local league club to insist on playing Birmingham Senior Cup games at home and thus depriving the local non-league teams of a decent gate, thinking they have a God-given right to park anywhere they like and moaning when they get tickets for parking on double yellow lines, you can bet there'll be more face paint and stupid wigs per supporter than at any other ground in the country and I include Newcastle in that again, the six wankers shouting their gobs off on the bus when I was going back home after the game in 1982, the very quiet one who was left when his five mates got off, the 1887 cup final when they planned to get the train back via Worcester to avoid travelling through Birmingham with the cup, except the cup went straight back to Aston without them ha fucking ha, coming up and saying that they weren't going to spend any money because they wanted to go straight back down and use the parachute payments to get back again, Skinner and Chiles walking up and down Witton Lane looking for camera crews, making out Bryan Robson was a returning hero when they'd hated him ever since he left, forgetting now that they wanted him hung a month after he became manager, the day they stayed up and reckoned everybody in the country loves them because they're such a nice inoffensive club with wonderful fans, having to get coaches to come three miles down Island Road, that fucking sanctimonious Grorty Dick fanzine that used to call us arrogant yet made out that they were such a big club, then had a celebration issue when they beat us in a youth match I kid you not, being the only Villa supporter in a school of 1,600 of the bastards when they didn't care about Wolves, getting a manager sacked because of a low crowd for a pre-season friendly, Alex Cropley again, Eric Clapton and I'm sure UB40 used to say they supported them when they were good, the fucking Albion that is not UB40, having their end named after a city they hate, an evening paper that treats playing Manchester United in the league in the same patronising way that Kidderminster Harriers would get in the FA Cup, Jim Cumbes dropping down two divisions because our crowds were bigger, treating reserve matches as something really big and important, having a shopping centre in the town and gates at their ground named after a player who scored in a cup final and cost England the World Cup, this supposed 'big vlub' making a fuss of winning the third division play-offs, Terry Wills who although he is a very nice man should be told that he does not have to go on every radio station after every match,asking us to play friendlies and still treating our supporters like shit, wanting every manager sacked after three defeats, Bob Taylor, every one of their supporters over fifty was at the ground when they relegated us in 1959 and will talk forever about it but none of them remembers us stopping them winning the league four years earlier, you're not telling me it's a coincidence that Alistair Fucking Brown got a job working for them after his thuggish career was mercifully brought to an end, knowing more about how Bayern Munich should have won the European Cup in 1982 than Bayern Munich do, my irritating little shit of a cousin Luke who used to support Manchester United then got a season ticket up there when they got into the Premier League, including Prisoner 820468 Hughes, L, in a book called Cult Heroes and I bet the family of the bloke he killed have got a better and similar description for him, some knobhead I heard saying all he wanted to do when they went down was come back up win the cup and kick fuck out the Villa then talked about football for ten minutes and never once went off the subject of how much he hates us, I bet that Everton fan they blinded thinks they're lovely, a town centre where the best pub is a Wetherspoon's and the best restaurant is McDonalds, how every time we beat them and there'sa lot to choose from they always complain that they'd rather lose than play like us like they have a choice, putting reserve teams out in games they're going to lsoe anyway but it's alright for them to do it, every tiem they come up saying they don't intend to spend any money because we're ony a little team and we're doing ever so well to be here in the first place, Tony Mowbray always claiming moral victories...
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The fact that every time the Hawthorns gets near capacity they can't cope, the Alex Cropley game when they set out for ninety minutes to kick anything in claret and blue...Tony Mowbray always claiming moral victories...
The finest, most erudite demolition of a rival club I've ever seen. The dots at the end are the coup de grace - suggesting a man yet to break into his stride.
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Have a real ambivalence towards them
SHA is our big derby really
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Growing up in Smethwick during the 1970s this was always the big one for me. I remember when we beat them 1-0 at VP with Peter Withe's late goal en route to the championship and going back to celebrate at Smethwick Labour Club. The atmosphere was like someone had died. Hilarious! Times change and distance lends enchantment etc. Don't mind them too much these days, although i will love it when we beat them tomorrow for old time's sake.
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Growing up in Smethwick during the 1970s this was always the big one for me. I remember when we beat them 1-0 at VP with Peter Withe's late goal en route to the championship and going back to celebrate at Smethwick Labour Club. The atmosphere was like someone had died. Hilarious! Times change and distance lends enchantment etc. Don't mind them too much these days, although i will love it when we beat them tomorrow for old time's sake.
If that was the one where Batson passed back it was sweeter when we went for a drink in the Greyhound the weekend after and who should stroll in but Mr Batson himself. We bought him a drink and chatted until he twigged who/what we were. Took it in pretty good style. I remember the goal celebration volume frightening an Olbiun lad who was there - he had never heard anything like it.
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I remember when we beat them 1-0 at VP with Peter Withe's late goal en route to the championship and going back to celebrate at Smethwick Labour Club.
I still drink in there.
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It's more a case of them hating us and a few of our fans biting back. No-one really hates the Baggies like small heath, lets not be silly.
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Calling Messrs. Woodhall and Upton to the thread...
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So the myth that playing the Baggies is bigger than the Blues and that WBA are more hated than the Blues has officially been cleared up.
Even my father who's in his 50's who grew up as WBA being the main rivalry hates Blues more.
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Agree with Situation.
And going one step beyond...
Actually, I think the baggies are cuddly.
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I don't like them at all. I used to find them really inoffensive but the last time they were up with their arrogant, deluded cock of a manager they boiled my piss.
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Cuddly? They are a horrible bunch of ******.
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Cuddly? They are a horrible bunch of c***s.
maybe I am biased towards fans I know. definitely cuddly.
and look at the vote - hardly anybody hates them - at least at this point
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So the myth that playing the Baggies is bigger than the Blues and that WBA are more hated than the Blues has officially been cleared up.
Even my father who's in his 50's who grew up as WBA being the main rivalry hates Blues more.
Not in the slightest. I personally dislike SHA and the Dingles far more than the Throstles. The afore-mentioned have a different point of view.
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Even my father who's in his 50's who grew up as WBA being the main rivalry hates Blues more.
Well the Rags have never been our 'rivals'. Neighbours, yes but having won sweet FA, there's no rivalry. Just because the Rags are obsessed with us and live to hate us, doesn't make them our rivals. We hate them because they're small time, embarrassing twats.
Albion have some history and can rightly claim to be local rivals. Big difference.
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I understand what people are saying, and to an extent I'd agree.
With West Brom it's more of a 'local football rivalry', with small heath it's more of a 'local derby' - no football rivalry involved because they're just the pesants trying to get their foot in the palace doors. WBA are somewhat respectable, and so are Forest and Wolves. It's a shame really because if you notice all the other football rivalries in England it's always two good football clubs coming up against each other. Blues aren't known for being a good football club, they're just known for playing boring and negative football with a large majority of scummy fans.
I honestly wish we could just detatch away from small heath and start a real rivalry with Forest. Now that's a proper Midlands derby.
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I live over the sea.
No Blues fans where I live.
No Baggies fans where I live.
I utterly dispise the Blooze, the Baggies dont bother me whatsoever.
There you go, that is my story.
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[quote author=The Situation link=topic=43247.msg1765880#msg1765880 date=130410698
Well the Rags have never been our 'rivals'. Neighbours, yes but having won sweet FA, there's no rivalry. Just because the Rags are obsessed with us and live to hate us, doesn't make them our rivals. We hate them because they're small time, embarrassing twats.
Albion have some history and can rightly claim to be local rivals. Big difference.
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That's not far off a decent explanation I would agree with...
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Whichever your stance on who are our real rivals, it is amusing that so many of our fans clearly don't give much of a toss about Albion while they get so worked up about us.
There's a definite touch of Coventry City about them. That must hurt.
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I hate Smethwick even more after today!
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I changed my mind, they are a bunch of ******
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I hate Smethwick even more after today!
Same here
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They are now, and always will be, wherever you live, whoever brought you up, a bunch of bastards.
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I'd forgotten how unlikeable they were up until this week....I'm still receiving gloating messages from Albion fans I know..... I am regretting that I wasn't more belligerent towards them over the last 26 years. Very annoying.
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Still cannot manage to dislike them, they had to beat us some time just like the Wolves. Wel,l its out the way now lets return to the grand scheme of things next season and start pulling away from out local rivals again.