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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: PaulTheVillan on April 07, 2011, 08:32:02 AM
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Dont know if this has been mentioned, but there are no trains between Bham New St & Aston on Sunday.
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What about between Moor St and Stourbridge? Being a selfish sod and all that.
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Dont know if this has been mentioned, but there are no trains between Bham New St & Aston on Sunday.
Your source being?
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Dont know if this has been mentioned, but there are no trains between Bham New St & Aston on Sunday.
When I lived in Aston the trains at Aston Station were off virtually every Sunday.
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http://www.londonmidland.com/ (http://www.londonmidland.com/)
Should be a big news thing about it on the front page.
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They are a fucking piss take I pay £55 a month for my train pass, im going to ask for it to be reduced as i'm not getting what I pay for !!!
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Oh cheers as I didn't realise the game is on Sunday 4pm.
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Dont know if this has been mentioned, but there are no trains between Bham New St & Aston on Sunday.
Your source being?
London Midland.
I heard it on Twitter, so I tweeted them. They sent me a direct message confirming.
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Looks like it's the buzz back to New Street for me.
EDIT: Thanks for the warning BTW.
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Dont know if this has been mentioned, but there are no trains between Bham New St & Aston on Sunday.
Your source being?
London Midland.
I heard it on Twitter, so I tweeted them. They sent me a direct message confirming.
Ta. Couldn't see any mention on the National rail website.
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They are saying it's due to safety reasons.
Ask them if you want.
www.twitter.com/londonmidland
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Its been going on for a while, The other day I got the train and the driver would only go as far as Dudley Port as that was his finish time, basically they are refusing to do any overtime.
Lazy cnuts
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Don't blame the drivers, the train companies could use some of their guaranteed profits to hire the necessary levels of staff.
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Its been going on for a while, The other day I got the train and the driver would only go as far as Dudley Port as that was his finish time, basically they are refusing to do any overtime.
Lazy cnuts
But they're not lazy. If you look at the website, London Midland are always over-subscribed for overtime amongst drivers. Looking at the announcement on the website, it seems they are in disagreement over the amount they get paid for overtime, as they are not obliged to work on Sundays.
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IMHO both sides are to blame. Neither is willing to be pragmatic or flexible.
Take the #7 bus - timetable:
http://timetables.centro.org.uk/showtimetable.asp?file=1_a\7NXB#7
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Thanks for that Paul. We normally jump on the train as well. Looks like a taxi job then.
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London Midland have now sent me another Twitter message saying that Blake St trains will be stopping at Aston to pick up, but this will not be advertised at New St due to safety reasons.
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London Midland have now sent me another Twitter message saying that Blake St trains will be stopping at Aston to pick up, but this will not be advertised at New St due to safety reasons.
Does that mean both ways or just from Blake St?
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Not at clue, that's all they said to me.
I'll get the #7.
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I was listening to something about this on the radio a few days back. I think it was WM.
Unsurprisingly they were struggling to get anybody from London Midland to come on and talk.
Management seems to be totally inept at solving this.
Drivers do their hours as they always have done, there is no compulsory overtime.
If enough drivers dont volunteer for overtime then they simply dont have the trains to run.
Take on sufficient staff to deliver the service !
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I was listening to something about this on the radio a few days back. I think it was WM.
Unsurprisingly they were struggling to get anybody from London Midland to come on and talk.
Management seems to be totally inept at solving this.
Drivers do their hours as they always have done, there is no compulsory overtime.
If enough drivers dont volunteer for overtime then they simply dont have the trains to run.
Take on sufficient staff to deliver the service !
It wouldn't matter how many staff they have, all the drivers are refusing Sundays . I'm not sure what their grievance is.
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I was listening to something about this on the radio a few days back. I think it was WM.
Unsurprisingly they were struggling to get anybody from London Midland to come on and talk.
Management seems to be totally inept at solving this.
Drivers do their hours as they always have done, there is no compulsory overtime.
If enough drivers dont volunteer for overtime then they simply dont have the trains to run.
Take on sufficient staff to deliver the service !
It wouldn't matter how many staff they have, all the drivers are refusing Sundays . I'm not sure what their grievance is.
Who says they have a grievance as such ? Many probably want to spend sunday with their families. As far as I can gather their contracts dont say they have to work overtime, so many choose not to.
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I was listening to something about this on the radio a few days back. I think it was WM.
Unsurprisingly they were struggling to get anybody from London Midland to come on and talk.
Management seems to be totally inept at solving this.
Drivers do their hours as they always have done, there is no compulsory overtime.
If enough drivers dont volunteer for overtime then they simply dont have the trains to run.
Take on sufficient staff to deliver the service !
It wouldn't matter how many staff they have, all the drivers are refusing Sundays . I'm not sure what their grievance is.
Who says they have a grievance as such ? Many probably want to spend sunday with their families. As far as I can gather their contracts dont say they have to work overtime, so many choose not to.
"Train drivers are not obliged to work on Sundays, but enhanced pay rates ensure that we usually have more volunteers each week than we need. However, as almost every driver has refused to work this Sunday, we believe that we are being subjected to organised action related to our ongoing disagreement with ASLEF (the train drivers’ union) regarding overtime and other issues."
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And I'd bet a month's salary that the Union would never let them hire new drivers on a JD (with T&C) that requires drivers to work on saturday and sunday with time off during the week.
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I was listening to something about this on the radio a few days back. I think it was WM.
Unsurprisingly they were struggling to get anybody from London Midland to come on and talk.
Management seems to be totally inept at solving this.
Drivers do their hours as they always have done, there is no compulsory overtime.
If enough drivers dont volunteer for overtime then they simply dont have the trains to run.
Take on sufficient staff to deliver the service !
It wouldn't matter how many staff they have, all the drivers are refusing Sundays . I'm not sure what their grievance is.
Their grievance is that the company are trying to reduce the agreed overtime rate for Sunday working. In response most drivers have stopped volunteering for it. It's a pain in the arse for me but I don't blame them for doing it.
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The original row was something along the lines of the old Centro drivers want pay parity with the old Silverlink drivers.
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The problem is that there are very few, if any, volunteers to work next Sunday. The background is this:
•attendance on Sunday is voluntary
•two years ago, to attract more volunteers, LM offered drivers double time to work this day off
•now they have decided to drop this rate.
At no time has the union been consulted about these moves, either the increase or the decrease. The company put both forward without any reference to ASLEF – so it is utterly untrue to suggest that this union is ‘holding anyone to ransom’. On the contrary, ASLEF has never been invited to discuss the issue.
Last year management halved the rate on Sundays and found it had no volunteers. This year it is repeating the operation.
The coming weekend is the first time drivers are expected to work for a lower rate of pay than they have had for the past two years. They have individually decided how to react.
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So we have a rail company that is expected to provide a 7 day service with contracts of employment that do not include Sunday working?
You really couldn't make it up could you?
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So we have a rail company that is expected to provide a 7 day service with contracts of employment that do not include Sunday working?
You really couldn't make it up could you?
Exactly, if they would just introduce some sort of shift working then this wouldn't happen, but then they would have to pay the drivers a shift percentage on top of their basic, which might cost them more than just paying for voluntary overtime.
You can't rely on people to volunteer to drive trains on their days off, that's madness! Is this usual practice across train companies?
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So, does that mean I can't get my normal Aston return from Northfield?
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So we have a rail company that is expected to provide a 7 day service with contracts of employment that do not include Sunday working?
You really couldn't make it up could you?
Exactly, if they would just introduce some sort of shift working then this wouldn't happen, but then they would have to pay the drivers a shift percentage on top of their basic, which might cost them more than just paying for voluntary overtime.
You can't rely on people to volunteer to drive trains on their days off, that's madness! Is this usual practice across train companies?
It's more to do with 2 trains companies merging in to 1.The wages of the one operator was higher than the other and it still the case.
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The drivers are paid 400 quid to work a sunday this is on top of wages. The company is trying to bring this down in stages hence the boycotting of overtime on sundays and certain services in the week. ASLEF wont negotiate with London Midland so stalemate. Certain t&cs of drivers in "the midlands" are better than their counterparts down south for instance 6 extra days holiday. All this bull about not working sundays! They new it was a seven day service when they first sat in their cabs stuffing their fat faces!
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The drivers are paid 400 quid to work a sunday this is on top of wages. The company is trying to bring this down in stages hence the boycotting of overtime on sundays and certain services in the week. ASLEF wont negotiate with London Midland so stalemate. Certain t&cs of drivers in "the midlands" are better than their counterparts down south for instance 6 extra days holiday. All this bull about not working sundays! They new it was a seven day service when they first sat in their cabs stuffing their fat faces!
The train company new (sic) it was a seven day service and decided that no train driver would be contracted to work Sundays and hope for Volunteers. I know I hate doing extra hours over my contract without recompense so why shouldn't they.