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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: TheTimVilla on March 03, 2011, 07:19:01 PM
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According to the beeb sports headlines, Kolo Toure has failed a drugs test...
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Replay please
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Throw them out the cup ;-)
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Man City have released a statement:
Manchester City confirm that the FA has informed Kolo Toure that an ‘A-sample’ provided by him has tested positive for a specified substance.
As result of this, he has been suspended from participating in all first team and non-first team matches pending the outcome of the legal process.
There will be no further comment from the football club at this stage.
Most enlightening!
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I think personally Mr Houllier should have had a drug test after the team he fielded last night.
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Toure didn't play last night did he? Meh, never mind. Replay please :)
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Toure didn't play last night did he? Meh, never mind. Replay please :)
YaYa did not Kolo :(.We'd probably lose 5-0 anyway
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I think personally Mr Houllier should have had a drug test after the team he fielded last night.
Intentionally or not, that really made me laugh.
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Judging by Balotelli's haircut, they should test him as well.
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What does this quote from the BBC mean?
"The World Anti-Doping Agency defines a specified substance as one that is "more susceptible to a credible, non-doping explanation"."
Can't they just say performance enhancing or recreational drugs?
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I think personally Mr Houllier should have had a drug test after the team he fielded last night.
After seeing him on the bench I think he had an overdose of night nurse.
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If only it'd been Yaya. He scored the opener, they'd have been thrown out or a replay at least. We could've sent our 1st team.
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If only it'd been Yaya. He scored the opener, they'd have been thrown out or a replay at least. We could've sent our 1st team.
He would have put the youth team out against Reading then!
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Or the Old Stars might have got a run out.
Isn't Kolo Toure on about £100,000 a week? He's probably pissed off at earning less than half of what his brother does. Sibling rivalry and all that.
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I think personally Mr Houllier should have had a drug test after the team he fielded last night.
Me too!
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What does this quote from the BBC mean?
"The World Anti-Doping Agency defines a specified substance as one that is "more susceptible to a credible, non-doping explanation"."
Can't they just say performance enhancing or recreational drugs?
I would assume that means the substance could appear naturally in the body - unlike, for example, recreational drugs such as Cocaine.
Sky sports said it was something from a diet supplement.
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I think personally Mr Houllier should have had a drug test after the team he fielded last night.
I second that emotion,
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Even if Houllier goes it won't be enough to hide the tracks of my tears.
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You would think with the medical staff on the Man City payroll the would be able to know what the players can take or not take.
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Could be banned for two years ... oh dear ;-)
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Shame he's willing to waste it all, i think he's a great defender. Oh well, lost my respect..
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As a professional athlete, the "I didn't realise" defence doesn't wash. It's their responsibility to understand what they are taking and that of the paid medical staff to support this. I am, of course, talking in general here rather than about any specific case.
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Could be banned for two years ... oh dear ;-)
No chance, more like 4 week ban
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4 week ban sounds really harsh. you can shoot someone, or try and break someones jaw on the field of play these days and barely get a raised eyebrow.
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2 years, is that inside knowledge or has it been announced?
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2 years, is that inside knowledge or has it been announced?
Two years is a standard ban for drugs in athletics. Football bans are usually far less harsh.
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Apparently he took some of his wife's dieting stuff.............
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger believes Kolo Toure's failed drugs test is a result of the player taking a "slimming product belonging to his wife".
The Manchester City defender, 29, has been suspended after testing positive for a specified substance.
But Toure's ex-boss Wenger has spoken to the player and said: "He wants to control his weight a little bit because that's where he has some problems.
"He has a clean life, is very honest, is always at home and is a family man."
Toure was informed by the Football Association that he failed a test taken at the Manchester derby last month where he was an unused substitute.
The World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) defines a specified substance as one that is "more susceptible to a credible, non-doping explanation".
The punishment for this offence ranges from a warning to a two-year ban.
After Toure's A sample returned positive, City confirmed in a statement that the player had been suspended "pending the outcome of the legal process".
Toure has until Wednesday, 9 March to decide whether or not he wants a B sample to be tested. If he does and it comes back negative then the case would be closed and Toure regarded as not guilty.
However, if he does not then he will have to submit an explanation and would face a lengthy disciplinary procedure.
BBC sports news correspondent Dan Roan told BBC Radio 5 live: "A specified substance, according to Wada, is one more susceptible to a credible, non-doping explanation because of its general availability in medicines."
GORDON FARQUHAR BLOG
The principle of strict liability underpins the whole of doping policy. What it means in practical terms is that you, the athlete, are responsible for what's in your body regardless of how it got there
Since football signed up to Wada's code, testing has become more stringent and targeted, and ignorance is not regarded as a defence.
Hamilton Academical midfielder Simon Mensing recently served a four-week ban after a specified substance was detected in his system.
However, former Sheffield United goalkeeper Paddy Kenny served a nine-month suspension after testing positive for the stimulant ephedrine.
It took two months for the case to be heard and the player's defence of the drug being present in cough medicine was dismissed.
Roan added: "There seems little doubt Toure's season is over, it's now whether or not his entire career at Manchester City is in jeopardy too because he could face a two-year ban if he's found guilty."
Ivory Coast international Toure, whose brother Yaya also plays for City, is a former club captain who joined from Arsenal in July 2009.
The defender has gone on to make more than 50 appearances for City, although he was not involved in Wednesday's FA Cup victory over Aston Villa.
The failed test automatically triggered the suspension and it is understood that Toure was left out of the squad because the club had been made aware of the situation.
City added in the statement: "There will be no further comment from the football club at this stage."
And on Thursday evening the FA said in a statement: "The FA can confirm that a player has been provisionally suspended from playing pending investigation, having tested positive for the use of a prohibited substance."
Mensing, 28, tested positive for the stimulant methylhexaneamine at the end of January and subsequently missed five matches after a period of ineligibility was imposed on him.
The player maintained he was unaware he had ingested the substance while using a dietary supplement - an explanation which was accepted by UK Anti-Doping.
In Kenny's instance, Christopher Quinlan - the chairman of the Regulatory Commission which heard the case - said that a professional sportsman "has a strict responsibility to ensure prohibited substances do not enter his or her body".
Toure was the skipper of City until the start of the current season when the armband passed to Carlos Tevez.
The Ivorian defender was brought to the Premier League by Arsenal in 2002 and he remained with the London club until his £14m transfer to City.
Toure, who is under contract with City until the summer of 2013, was one of several high-profile arrivals in the summer of 2009 as then-manager Mark Hughes spent more than £100m on new players.
City are pursuing trophies on three fronts. They play Reading in the FA Cup quarter-finals, meet Dynamo Kiev in the last 16 of the Europa League and lie third in the Premier League, 10 points behind leaders Manchester United.
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I don't get how a pro footballer needs to worry about dietting when he plays football every day for an hour or so, maybe he gets a bucket of KFC each day on his way home?
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Heard this being discussed on R5 earlier. They didn't specify the drug, but if it's weight loss related, could have been xenical/orlistat. Someone rang/texted in saying they'd seen Kolo Toure and his wife shopping somewhere or other, and she didn't exactly look like she needed to diet.
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Heard this being discussed on R5 earlier. They didn't specify the drug, but if it's weight loss related, could have been xenical/orlistat. Someone rang/texted in saying they'd seen Kolo Toure and his wife shopping somewhere or other, and she didn't exactly look like she needed to diet.
there is a clue here
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The question is who do you think will finish higher this season, Man City or Kolo Toure?
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Banned for 6 months - backdated to 2nd March.
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so 3 mths summer break counts?
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Not sure about this one. On the face of it, it seems reasonable.
However in cycling the offenders always seem to have a plausible answer and its difficult to see the difference between genuine errors and proper cheats. Once you give light sentances (ie less than the two years recommended for drugs cheats) it is a slippery slope.
Frankly a professional sportman. With all the support available at the clubs, should not get caught out like this and, in my view, there should be zero tolerance. Fail a drugs test and you get two years end of.
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I would imagine the drugs test is advanced enough to back up his story of exactly what he took so six months is right to me. He's missed three months already but the other three should start in August not be the summer break.
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so 3 mths summer break counts?
Eligible to play from September.