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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on March 02, 2011, 07:52:46 AM
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Available Wednesday evening.
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Friedel; Herd, Dunne, Clark, Delph; Bannan, Petrov, Bradley, Agbonlahor; Delfouneso, Heskey.
Subs: Marshall, Pires, Reo-Coker, Walker, A Young, Downing, Albrighton.
Rrrriiiight....
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@AVFCOfficial: VILLA: Friedel; Herd, Dunne, Clark, Delph; Bannan, Petrov, Bradley, Agbonlahor, Delfouneso, Heskey.
Now I'm worried.
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What in fuckery is GH doing?
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VILLA: Friedel; Herd, Dunne, Clark, Delph; Bannan, Petrov, Bradley, Agbonlahor, Delfouneso, Heskey
Subs: Marshall, Pires, Reo-Coker, Walker, A Young, Downing, Albrighton
Walker rested to the bench by the looks of things. Just hope City play narrow, with such inexperience in the full back positions.
Come on you Villa boys! True Lion performance!!
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That HAS to be a three of Bannan, Bradley and Petrov with Fonz and Gabby marauding around Heskey. There's no way he can field a flat four with Bannan and Gabby, is there?
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Right, same time next year then lads...
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MAN CITY: Hart, Richards, Boateng, Lescott, Zabaletta, Vieira, Barry, Silva, Y Toure, Kolarov, Balotelli.
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MAN CITY: Hart, Richards, Boateng, Lescott, Zabaletta, Vieira, Barry, Silva, Y Toure, Kolarov, Balotelli.
We're fucked.
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Never expected that team in a million years
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Fonzy to the rescue. Get in!
And I hope Bobby Bradley's young lad does us proud.
GHou continuing MON's tradition of considering fullbacks as a meaningless irritation.
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Could backfire on him a la Moscow.
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MAN CITY: Hart, Richards, Boateng, Lescott, Zabaletta, Vieira, Barry, Silva, Y Toure, Kolarov, Balotelli.
We're fucked.
Proper Fucked?
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This is ridiculous.
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MAN CITY: Hart, Richards, Boateng, Lescott, Zabaletta, Vieira, Barry, Silva, Y Toure, Kolarov, Balotelli.
We're fucked.
Not necessarily. I'm glad Dzeko (or however you spell it) isn't playing. We're playing with three centre forwards; can't complain about that.
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Okaaaaaaayyyyyyy ???
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Come on Villains, lets at least start the game with an air of positivity! Negativity only breeds more negativity!
Come you Lions!
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Ok positivity after that initial outburst. Hmm...theres...no....erm....fuck
edit: I found one! Bannan is getting a game ;D
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I'm not sure what the hell he's playing at but i can only presume he thinks the league is more important.
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If we get hammered Houllier's gonna get a bashing. And rightfully so, what on earth?
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Okaaaaaaayyyyyyy ???
My thoughts exactly. However, if Fonzie and Bannan step up to the plate and win us the game, then it will be one of the proudest recent days as a Villan. However, that is unlikely to happen.
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MAN CITY: Hart, Richards, Boateng, Lescott, Zabaletta, Vieira, Barry, Silva, Y Toure, Kolarov, Balotelli.
We're fucked.
Calm down. No Tevez or Kompany. We're gonna bamboozle them with all our young attackers exchanging positions at will in a performance of pass and move that we've not seen since the Yorke-Savo-Hendrie-Joachim wondershows of spring '98 during Gregory's honeymoon.
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Is bannan marking viera at corners/set pieces then
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If we get hammered Houllier's gonna get a bashing. And rightfully so, what on earth?
Why rightfully so? What should he do? Pick ten defenders? Let's at least see how it pans out. Their midfield is hardly blessed with pace and we can bring the likes of Ash & Downing on.
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MAN CITY: Hart, Richards, Boateng, Lescott, Zabaletta, Vieira, Barry, Silva, Y Toure, Kolarov, Balotelli.
We're fucked.
Calm down. No Tevez or Kompany. We're gonna bamboozle them with all our young attackers exchanging positions at will in a performance of pass and move that we've not seen since the Yorke-Savo-Hendrie-Joachim wondershows of spring '98 during Gregory's honeymoon.
I'm very calm. And very happy to see the youngsters get the chance. I'm just very calmly and consideredly saying we're fucked for today.
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Totally shocked by this selection- Moscow all over again, we had the confidence and the chance to really go for this cup and I am amazed at the team put out- why oh why?
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At first I was'nt to bothered about the starting line up until I realised we can only use 3 subs ;-(
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"Martin O'Neill sticks with the same players all the time, they're all knackered and all know that they're guaranteed a start, booooo!"
"Gerard has rotated his squad to keep them fresh and encourage competition for places, booooo!"
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I really don't understand that line up. I know he likes rotating the squad, but Young, Downing and Albrighton on the bench?? I wasn't feeling too optimistic before I saw the line up - now I feel completely deflated. Hope he proves me wrong
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If we get hammered Houllier's gonna get a bashing. And rightfully so, what on earth?
Why rightfully so? What should he do? Pick ten defenders? Let's at least see how it pans out. Their midfield is hardly blessed with pace and we can bring the likes of Ash & Downing on.
He's taking a massive gamble in the biggest game of our season.
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*Eyebrows shoot up forehead*
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MAN CITY: Hart, Richards, Boateng, Lescott, Zabaletta, Vieira, Barry, Silva, Y Toure, Kolarov, Balotelli.
We're fucked.
Calm down. No Tevez or Kompany. We're gonna bamboozle them with all our young attackers exchanging positions at will in a performance of pass and move that we've not seen since the Yorke-Savo-Hendrie-Joachim wondershows of spring '98 during Gregory's honeymoon.
Then you woke up and took the teabag out of your mouth.
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"Martin O'Neill sticks with the same players all the time, they're all knackered and all know that they're guaranteed a start, booooo!"
"Gerard has rotated his squad to keep them fresh and encourage competition for places, booooo!"
Bearing in mind who our possible opponents are in the Quarter Finals, would you have picked that side Chris?
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This is a huge cup game in our season - I've fully backed GED so far but I feel he's put out far too inexperienced a team here- if we get a good hiding it will affect confidence badly- let's hope he is right in his selection.
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I'll reserve judgement until after the game, but my initial reaction is that of shock and disappointment.
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This is the sort of line up I would expect to see in the league once we are 'safe' and he can have a look at his options for next year. But in arguably our biggest game of the season I think it's risky to say the least.
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"Martin O'Neill sticks with the same players all the time, they're all knackered and all know that they're guaranteed a start, booooo!"
"Gerard has rotated his squad to keep them fresh and encourage competition for places, booooo!"
Bearing in mind who our possible opponents are in the Quarter Finals, would you have picked that side Chris?
Probably not, but then I reckon he picks a different side to the one I would every week. He knows the players, he knows the ones that need a rest an the ones that need an opportunity. I will wait to see how they perform before slaughtering them and him.
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Hmmm well good luck lads!
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Ludicrous team selection from a manager who doesn't get it and never will.
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PL is more important and we have a massive game on Saturday at Bolton hence the rotation
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"Martin O'Neill sticks with the same players all the time, they're all knackered and all know that they're guaranteed a start, booooo!"
"Gerard has rotated his squad to keep them fresh and encourage competition for places, booooo!"
^^ this
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Did I say 3-0? I meant 12-0.
Of course, that means we'll win 0-1.
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PL is more important
No it isn't.
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PL is more important and we have a massive game on Saturday at Bolton hence the rotation
Why on earth is it? We seem to be pretty safe and we are unlikely to qualify for Europe.
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MAN CITY: Hart, Richards, Boateng, Lescott, Zabaletta, Vieira, Barry, Silva, Y Toure, Kolarov, Balotelli.
We're fucked.
Proper Fucked?
Power-fucked.
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Eyebrows were raised over the team on Saturday and we got a result. Let's wait and see what happens. I'm off to The Glee club so I need to avoid the score so I can watch it when I get back. I'll see you on the other side. UTV.
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Friedel; Herd, Dunne, Clark, Delph; Bannan, Petrov, Bradley, Agbonlahor; Delfouneso, Heskey.
Subs: Marshall, Pires, Reo-Coker, Walker, A Young, Downing, Albrighton.
Rrrriiiight....
Right you Lions. Izzy wizzy lets get busy ! 2 -2
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PL is more important
No it isn't.
Yes it is with bells on
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MAN CITY: Hart, Richards, Boateng, Lescott, Zabaletta, Vieira, Barry, Silva, Y Toure, Kolarov, Balotelli.
We're fucked.
Calm down. No Tevez or Kompany. We're gonna bamboozle them with all our young attackers exchanging positions at will in a performance of pass and move that we've not seen since the Yorke-Savo-Hendrie-Joachim wondershows of spring '98 during Gregory's honeymoon.
Now that, my friend, is a post.
Up the Villa.
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Given that there's no chance of us qualifying for the Champions League, and very little chance of the Europa League in which we won't bother competing for anyway; then this IS the biggest match of our season.
And we're just going to give it Man City on a fucking plate.
I'm really fucking angry at this selection.
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"Martin O'Neill sticks with the same players all the time, they're all knackered and all know that they're guaranteed a start, booooo!"
"Gerard has rotated his squad to keep them fresh and encourage competition for places, booooo!"
Bearing in mind who our possible opponents are in the Quarter Finals, would you have picked that side Chris?
Probably not, but then I reckon he picks a different side to the one I would every week. He knows the players, he knows the ones that need a rest an the ones that need an opportunity. I will wait to see how they perform before slaughtering them and him.
Fair comment, although i think i'd have left Ash in with him being our penalty taker and played him out wide and maybe Reo.
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Chris is right. GHou has stressed time and time again the importance of the squad and keeping players both competitive and fresh. I'm surprised he's gone so wholesale with the amount of changes though it's the inexperienced fullbacks that worry me more than the midfield and attack. Petrov, Gabby and Heskey is a good experienced base for Bannan, Fonz and Bradley to work around.
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PL is more important
No it isn't.
Yes it is with bells on
Considering the circumstances I couldn't disagree more, but right now it doesn't matter. Up the Villa!
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"Martin O'Neill sticks with the same players all the time, they're all knackered and all know that they're guaranteed a start, booooo!"
"Gerard has rotated his squad to keep them fresh and encourage competition for places, booooo!"
^^ this
The middle ground would be nice. The two extreme ends of the scale aren't the only options.
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PL is more important and we have a massive game on Saturday at Bolton hence the rotation
Why on earth is it? We seem to be pretty safe and we are unlikely to qualify for Europe.
In fairness, we're only 6 points behind Liverpool who play Man Utd on saturday. Europe is still possible amazingly enough.
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And our season in the league is over. We won't go down, we won't qualify for Europe. It's just a contest as to where we finish in midtable. Personally, I don't give a fuck. The cup, that I mind about.
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Rotating and keeping things fresh is fine but I feel there are too many changes for this game and maybe I'm old fashioned in believing the fa cup is still very important whereas others see the league as a priority- I really hope GED has called this one right .
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Delph isn't a defender
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As I said in the other thread.
4-3-3. Very gutsy indeed. Whether it works or not, I applaud the unpredicatability and faith in the squad.
The poker player in me loves it. It's a real gamble.
They might do better than a lot of folk think too.
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If they all put in a performance, I'll be happy enough. The core of a great side in two to three years is out there in the shape of Bannan, Delph etc. It just might be too early for them to really match a team like City though.
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totally effing gutted by this selection, win tonight and we have a glorious chance of a semi final, the selection has made this far less likely. Absolute bollocks.
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any links?
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As I said in the other thread.
4-3-3. Very gutsy indeed. Whether it works or not, I applaud the unpredicatability and faith in the squad.
The poker player in me loves it. It's a real gamble.
They might do better than a lot of folk think too.
Im with you Maz. Time for Bannan and Fonz to show us what they can do.
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Just logged on to Bet365 for a bet. Luckily I checked the starting line-up first.
I don't think I'll have a bet now!
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As I said in the other thread.
4-3-3. Very gutsy indeed. Whether it works or not, I applaud the unpredicatability and faith in the squad.
The poker player in me loves it. It's a real gamble.
They might do better than a lot of folk think too.
I see your point and in a way I agree, but it's more like pontoon than poker. Pontoon with a 22 card minimum.
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"Martin O'Neill sticks with the same players all the time, they're all knackered and all know that they're guaranteed a start, booooo!"
"Gerard has rotated his squad to keep them fresh and encourage competition for places, booooo!"
^^ this
The middle ground would be nice. The two extreme ends of the scale aren't the only options.
Baker, Collins, Cuellar are all injured, Bent is cuptied, Makoun is suspended. I'd rather see Herd & Delph than Beye & Warnock. Fair play to Ged for the unpredictability! We watch them every week and have no idea how we'll line up (4-3-3? 4-4-2? etc) so what's Mancini saying to his players?!
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I'm really excited, I love watching the young lads.
I suppose he is playing it safe by resting a few just in case we struggle in the PL.
Come on lads!!!
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I cant get over the team selection. Petrov and an untried Bradley in midfield. They could walk all over us.
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This is our biggest game of the season and we seem to be running out behind a white flag. Hope I'm wrong but this seems deranged.
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any links?
http://www.itv.com/watchitv/
Look no further than good ol' legal broadcasting (even though it's that shower of shite ITV).
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And now our season is over. Cool.
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any links?
It's live on ITV
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Fuck it, all the pressure is on them. They haven't won a cup for about 300 years and their Champions League qualification is looking les likely as the weeks roll on.
Do us proud Villa.
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So Bolton on Saturday as a bigger game than this one? Christ.
"Martin O'Neill sticks with the same players all the time, they're all knackered and all know that they're guaranteed a start, booooo!"
"Gerard has rotated his squad to keep them fresh and encourage competition for places, booooo!"
Rotation is fine.
Rest/ drop two or three if required.
Treating a game that could lead to an FA Cup quarter final berth as an inconvenience, just another fixture to be filled is taking the piss - as it was in Moscow.
Hope it's viewed as a masterstroke by 10pm, GH has made a few fruity picks this season and it's paid off. I wouldn't bet my house on it though.
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Mon, kmac and now GED- please can we put out our strongest team in the cups because they are where we have the most chance of winning a trophy.
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Suppose the enthusiasm of the youth may get us through till the hour still in it and then we've real quality options to change it.
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Herd a RB is one of the big suprises for me. I just thought Walker would be RB , it was the LB position I wasnt sure about.. anyway , good luck to them. do us proud.
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Neither team will want a replay says Southgate. I'd bite your arm off for a replay.
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What the fuck is that team selection all about. Not happy at all.
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54 years of hurt
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And now our season is over. Cool.
No it isn't. In two hours, it might be. In two hours, it might have been with a completely different side anyway.
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This is our biggest game of the season and we seem to be running out behind a white flag. Hope I'm wrong but this seems deranged.
Joke. I agreed with Moscow. We were third or fourth in the league, and it was the last 32 of the UEFA Cup. Now we are mid-table, with this game and a favourable draw between us and Wembley. White flag is right.
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If we can hang on in there for an hour,and maybe bring on some older heads for the last half an hour. Be interesting to see Bradley up against Barry. Come on Villa.
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It's the best bench we have in years.Why is anybody worrying? Nurse!
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Ewww God cushion-face is presenting...and I was looking forward to enjoying my tea 'n all...
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I really cannot understand that team selection. There's no way we're going down with the teams that we have left to play so why not go out to win this, it's what our season is all about now.
It seems insane.
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It's the best bench we have in years.Why is anybody worrying? Nurse!
If it was a friendly International I wouldnt be .
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and I thought ££city were pretty poor against Fulham and Notts county . We had a chance .
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That is a f***in disgrace of a line-up.
I'm sorry, dont mean to be beating down on our youngsters but wtf is he doing playing them in our last chance to salvage something from the season.
The thought he is saving the likes of Young and Downing for Saturday is a joke! I'm not saying we are 100% safe but we should be well able to put out a full strength team and still get a result on Saturday.
I really hope we get a result, but it will take a Herculean effort.
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Fuck he looks old these days...older than his 44 anyway...
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Just when he was starting to win over the fans...
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What the hell is he playing at!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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stream http://sportstream24.com/watch_online_32
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If we get hammered Houllier's gonna get a bashing. And rightfully so, what on earth?
If we win he will be genius, loose and he will be a twat. What a fine line he is walking, mind you with that team selection...
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any links?
It's live on ITV
Not much good to littlevillan in Boston, USA.
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"...It's a very high priority..."
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"We will win things"
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Just when he was starting to win over the fans...
Throughout his reign it always has seemed to be one step forward two steps back.
Think back to the result at Chelsea... We started to believe in him and then the Sunderland game came round...
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Glad I'm not alone. Can't believe the team selection.
With Reading next, standing in the way of a semi-final I can't believe we're not going 100% to win this. FUCK THE PREMIERSHIP. I'd rather win the FA Cup and get relegated than lose this and finish 7th.
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OK team selection seems a little strange and I can understand the criticism.
But in Gerrard we trust,its going to be ok.
I will quote this to you all in 2 hours time when we have won.
I hope.
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I'm stunned and disappointed at that line up. I really hope after saying that, it's me with much egg on my face and it's not on Houllier's.
Still, it's our team, it's our year, come on you Villa boys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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what kind of a team is that !! - moscow-esque !!
I fear a drubbing
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Come on you Lions!
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OK team selection seems a little strange and I can understand the criticism.
But in Gerrard we trust,its going to be ok.
I will quote this to you all in 2 hours time when we have won.
I hope.
So do I.
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Good to Bannan and the Fonz get a look in but really that is a bloody strange team.
Heskey on the pitch is joke.
I hope GH won't be slow in making subs if starts to unravel.
UTV
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L Young is back in full training, surely Walker could have played one more match. Gabby and Fonz are not wide men so the full backs may get even less protection. Petrov, Bannan and Bradley is ok but Viera, Toure and Barry is clearly too strong on paper. Still you never know. Maybe frustrate them for an hour then sling on Young, Albrighton and Downing to win it.
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I agree mac but I fear we are in the minority.
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OK team selection seems a little strange and I can understand the criticism.
But in Gerrard we trust,its going to be ok.
I will quote this to you all in 2 hours time when we have won.
I hope.
We've trusted him so far and we're 5 points off relegation.
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Kick Ballotelli and wind him up, get him sent off.
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Remind me there's still only 3 subs allowed yes?
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any links?
It's live on ITV
Not much good to littlevillan in Boston, USA.
Ooops! Didn't know his location
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Rest you can all make a case for.
Midfield *shouldn't* necessarily get too overrun, decent balance to it on paper. Playing three up top (even if two have to drop back) could be viewed as a bold move.
Herd is a concern though. Nowt against the lad, but Lichaj being torn a new one there in the league would -I'd have thought- been as good an argument as any to guard against the folly of playing an inexperienced player there.
Gone from thinking we might have a half decent chance in this one to hoping we don't concede early and fold again.
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They just announced the team here at eastlamds can't believe this. houlier I hope you get a result here
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"Martin O'Neill sticks with the same players all the time, they're all knackered and all know that they're guaranteed a start, booooo!"
"Gerard has rotated his squad to keep them fresh and encourage competition for places, booooo!"
You think this is simple rotation?
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he must know that we don't win in march anyway, and thought fuck it
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The issue for me are the fullbacks and 3 central strikers.
Not the quality of the team, it just doesn't look to have a balance
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8 changes- I wonder what ash makes of that as a statement of the clubs ambition to win trophies?
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Oh dear.
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Fuck it
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Oh Dear!
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This could be a fucking long night.
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Plan B ?
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Not even 5 minutes and game over.
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Well we lasted 4 minutes :'(
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Handball anyway.
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fucking joke we are
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Don't see why the selection of HEskey is a joke, until Bent signed he had been our best centre forward by a street.
Delph is the only option at left back. Wonder if Walker has a knock to not play at right.
We all want Bannan given a run.
Poor start, no one reacted there at all!
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Like the league game- losing again very early on, all over for another year me thinks!!
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Brilliant. 4 minutes. First set piece. 1-0 down
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I don't think Ged's tactics cost us that goal...
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Herd needs some help down the right.
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THe size of their side is huge. Ref would have blown for the pen, harsh but Clark just did not react.
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Woeful defensive work for goal
Let's hope they get casual
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This could be a classic.
Come on Villa!
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I don't like the black kit when we could have worn the home kit just as well, i guess it's they read about the claret shorts on the General's thread.
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Glad I'm not alone. Can't believe the team selection.
With Reading next, standing in the way of a semi-final I can't believe we're not going 100% to win this. FUCK THE PREMIERSHIP. I'd rather win the FA Cup and get relegated than lose this and finish 7th.
Agree in part. Strongest team should be out tonight.
Wouldn't want to get relegated regardless of whether we won this cup or not though.
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Why not just concede the tie and save everyone the time and trouble including neutral TV viewers? Shocking team selection - an insult to the FA Cup and we fans.
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This is our biggest game of the season and we seem to be running out behind a white flag. Hope I'm wrong but this seems deranged.
Joke. I agreed with Moscow. We were third or fourth in the league, and it was the last 32 of the UEFA Cup. Now we are mid-table, with this game and a favourable draw between us and Wembley. White flag is right.
This.
I don't think I have ever been this angry about a team selection. Reading waiting in the quarter finals and a good chance that Citeh would rest players with the matches they have coming up. All in the context of our bitterest rivals having just secured their first trophy for 50 years.
As someone said earlier about GH. Doesn't get it and never will!!
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The fonz looks lost, but Bannan has started well and Gabby has got into a couple of great positions, but just lacks the quality to do anything with it half the time.
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Nice shot from the wee man there!
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They should not let it affect them adversely..Keep pressing forward. They froze in penalty box.
Gabby is up for it...Come on chaps!!
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Chance for Bannan, on wrong foot. Very good football.
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good football, that was a chance
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Good stuff Villa! Come on!
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Good chance that for Bannan
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We've shown some good signs actually.
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How could someone as small as Bannan get under the ball so much????
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Should of done better.Loads of space on both flanks.
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another corner..oh fuck
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Silva looks handy, wish he was on our side.
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Villains in good voice
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what the fuck is gabby doing???????
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What is this fucking line up?
Reading in the next round and then into the semi finals ... really disappointed to see us not that arsed about it.
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Gabby is a donkey at times. Easy ball on to Petrov and tries to smash it with little chance of success there. Even with the same side as the weekend we are more than likely to come off second best tonight, so not an issue with giving some a chance, especially Bannan, if it means he starts to get more league football on the back of it.
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i'm going off sport - first Blues at Wembley then England woeful against Ireland and now we are up for a public tonking!!
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We havent started that badly really,Gab could get some joy when Richards goes forward.
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Petrov gets booked. Rooney elbows and gets fook all....
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Best football when we have the ball i've seen all season shame about the goal
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We can get back into this but I'm sorry Agbonlahor is a very limited footballer
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I get the impression you're trying to put a positive spin on it Oz?
Wish I had the same belief that you do. Just really disappointed with this.
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It's funny cos being over in Canada and using a dodgy stream I am about 1 minute behind all the comments I read but then by the time my old pc can process all the "post replies" I have caught up with you all.
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not much in the teams at the moment
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Bradley chasing shadows
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Petrov looks fucked.
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Petrov looks fucked.
nothing new there
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Has the Fonz actually touched the ball yet?
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Is Herd usually a right-back?
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We're shit, aren't we?
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I was resigned to a tonking from the so called strongest side, so putting something else out I am not too unhappy with. Clark, Delph picked as no other alternative with injuries, Bannan was super last round, Petrov has been rotated all season so I expected he and maybe Bradley would start with Reo Coker and Pires playing last weekend. I expected Gabby and Heskey, but probably with Young in the side and Walker at right back, so only 2 players have suprised me.
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Petrov off walker on!
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fucking tip tap going nowhere
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Delph is doing really well.
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We're shit, aren't we?
No, we're not.
The problem is, we make it difficult for ourselves by putting out a line-up this weak.
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Didnt realise Stephen Ireland had come back to us ;-)
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Is Herd usually a right-back?
No.
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Bradley off coker on...NOW please.
Not the game for him today
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May have been talked about already but why aren't Ashley Young and Downing playing?
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We've done alright to be honest.
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fucking tip tap going nowhere
What do you think hoofing it rather than passing it would achieve tonight?
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Petrov and Bradley look poor though. The latter it is forgivable, the former is simply past his sale by date. Get rid Houllier, fucking liability.
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Delph is doing really well.
Looks like he has played there all is life.
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This is strange
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We're shit, aren't we?
No, we're not.
The problem is, we make it difficult for ourselves by putting out a line-up this weak.
I bet GH will be upset if we somehow win this game, mind you there would be more chance of Ireland beating England at Cricket. Oh hold on...
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and bollocks!
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good night
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Terrible defending.
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herd giving it away .. great
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GH you are a fucking twat. What was the fucking point. Knob.
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Houllier out
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Bannan looks quality. The Fonz and Herd look shocking dow the right.
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Fucks sake.
Absolutely fucking pathetic from Delfouneso in the build up.
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We are being totally out classed. COME ON GH DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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All over now!! :-(
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Notts County put up a better fight than this.
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fucking tip tap going nowhere
What do you think hoofing it rather than passing it would achieve tonight?
Probably not 2-0 down already.
Fuck this shit, fucking sick of being forever let by down by Villa.
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I am absoloutely disgusted with this, how the hell can you make 8 changes and expect to beat them, this is a hundred times worse than Moscow.
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Free dinner for the fans who went?
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Oh fuck you you usless shower of shit.
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Turning this shit off.
If the club aren't bothered about the cup, then neither am I.
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We're shit, aren't we?
No, we're not.
The problem is, we make it difficult for ourselves by putting out a line-up this weak.
But it's an Aston Villa side in an FA Cup 5th round game, and we've put out a pile of shit. Therefore, we're shit.
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Herd is not a right back.
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Bag of wank.
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Well Houllier's got what he wanted - an early exit from the FAC. Someone throw a towel on the field.
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Oh dear
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Poor, poor defending.
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Thanks GH. In any other job you be sacked for such foolishness.
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Watching it on a stream now so my flatmates can watch the Old Firm game, too embarrassing watching it infront of them. Disgraceful.
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disgraceful.
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I am absoloutely disgusted with this, how the hell can you make 8 changes and expect to beat them, this is a hundred times worse than Moscow.
At least we had something to play for then that could almost make the decision justified.
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GH should realise he's made a massive cock up,and bring on NRC and Ash right now.
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The problem with this is that GH had rebuilt some good will, but this is not good.
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Soft goal- game over, thanks GED , great for confidence this will be , we were heading forward until this selection tonight- we can only win cups so please next season let's try and win them with our best team.
So sorry for fans who travelled, they should have known we were not taking it seriously, I'm sure Liverpool fans would never have put up with such a weak selection., and he wouldn't have dared pick such a weakened team when there.
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Houllier out
Cause that is going to happen. He has a trust in the squad, and some are performing well, some are not, but the opposition would twat our strongest team - oh they did 3 months ago 4-0 here.
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Houllier out
Not at all...just a big fucking mistake on his behalf.
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At least di matteo is a fan in the ground
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I suspect this has been posted already but shades of Moscow anyone?
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Worse than Moscow, atleast you could see the logic behind that.
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Gutless cowardly decision my our manager
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Well, this was fun.
There's a lot to be said for just quickly and quietly getting knocked out by Man United in the third round, saves a lot of hassle.
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The week just gets better and better for Blues fans. This is one of our darkest times for a long while.
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The really funny thing is, Houllier made a big thing about us giving up against Man City in the league, and this time we've given up before a ball has been kicked. An absolute fucking disgrace.
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So fuckin glad I had to work and couldn't fly over for this. I'd have been back at the airport by now. How fuckin predictable. It was over at 1-0. 4 minutes!!!
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We're being completely out-played. This could get embarrassing
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I hope all of you who think that rotation, 4-3-3, playing centre forwards out of postion are happy as this is just tosh and Bannan is playing them on his own
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Houllier out
Cause that is going to happen. He has a trust in the squad, and some are performing well, some are not, but the opposition would twat our strongest team - oh they did 3 months ago 4-0 here.
Don't remember them twatting us a few weeks ago, do you? Don't remember Citeh twatting Fulham at the weekend either, or is our strongest side not as good as Fulham these days?
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GH should fuck off and manage someone else.
FUCK the 'progress' we have made. I want a team that will compete in any game we play.
OH fuck it.... Fuck GH and FUCK anyone who thinks it's the right game to 'rest' players.
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alot better
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shot on target
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Would Darren Bent have been there to finish that?
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2-0.....confirms that this was the most nonsesical team selection I have ever seen. Disagreed massively with Moscow but this instulting, disgraceful, embarrassing, words actually fail me.
Youngsters confidence will take a hammering after this.
Ashley Young will be pissed off at missing the last chance of winning a trophy, 2 goals on Sat and dropped.
You can throw as many 17 million pound strikers at the problem, but the manager will still be a joke.
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Nice shot by Heskey
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This is why I fell out of love with modern football - too much "strategy"
Remind me how many players we used to win the League...
I know it's not rational and "times have changed" but for f**ks sake
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Houllier is never going to cut it as Villa manager. Building on Saturday's 2nd half performance was the ONLY option. If we get relegated, he will leave or, if not, partway through next season he will be sacked. So, get rid in May anyway.
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Plays right into the hands of these moneybags teams - we're almost giving them a bye into the next round. I feel sick, i hate modern football. Staying in the league is more important than going for a cup these days and if that is the attitude then why the hell do we bother Feel sorry for the poor sods who've gone.
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Houllier out
Cause that is going to happen. He has a trust in the squad, and some are performing well, some are not, but the opposition would twat our strongest team - oh they did 3 months ago 4-0 here.
What happened six weeks ago?
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Well this is FUCKING SHIT isn't it? Looks like we were sent out with the mission to keep the score down and can't even do that. What's on BBC1 now?
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Gutted
We've given up again
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Really pissed off. Woukd rather have gone all out defence and brought them back to villa. Houllier was starting to please me but he's gone down in my estimation
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I have had it...
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I dont even think the teams that week to be fair, it ent the strongest but were capeable of much much better than this.
Its funny, earlier in the week Houllier had made us look good again, and now he's the worst thing ever. Make yer minds up
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we are saving our selves for Bolton, yes Fkin Bolton, we are that scared of Bolton that we dare not risk our first team in an FA Cup match, how shocking is that
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When Houllier said we would things he must have meant friends on the blue halves of Manchester and Birmingham because he certainly doesn't seem to be "Up for le Coupe". >:(
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I had a feeling tonight would be like this and for the first time in ages, I have not bothered watching the game. It had a feeling of inevitability about it, which is pretty depressing.
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I was a bit unhappy at some posters unfurling the white flag during the build up to this. At least the players and management wouldn't I consoled myself. THE trophy, the one that means more than anything... A good chance of a Semi Final if we could get through this...
A fucking disgrace and no mistake.
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Houllier out
Cause that is going to happen. He has a trust in the squad, and some are performing well, some are not, but the opposition would twat our strongest team - oh they did 3 months ago 4-0 here.
What happened six weeks ago?
That's the point.
Send the kids out, get a twatting, you're out of the cup, but if the twatting is too heavy, it'll have a knock on effect detrimental to our brittle, but recently improved morale.
Send the best team we can out, and we've got a chance of winning this match. They'd also have been fired up for it, having done well at the weekend, and wanting to put right the last shit performance here.
If you take out the factor of those poor sods who travelled all the way over there, this is a worse capitulation than Moscow.
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Just when I thought houllier was ok he goes and does this. This is FA cup. Feeling shit now might leave at half time to "avoid traffic" on M6
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We're still in this. We just need the players to believe, especially in the final third. Sloppy defending is all that stops us.
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I'd be absolutely livid if I'd gone to this game.
3 days after our rivals win a trophy, following on from one of our best performances of the season, for a massive cup game live on national tv, he picks this team?
It's beyond belief.
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Regardless of the team selection though - the 11 selected just didn't look up for it from the off.
"You are shit my lord, you are shit" how very true.
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Houllier out
Cause that is going to happen. He has a trust in the squad, and some are performing well, some are not, but the opposition would twat our strongest team - oh they did 3 months ago 4-0 here.
I think our strongest available team could have won this tonight. We've moved on a lot from that 4 - 0 defeat.
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Petrovs been our weakest player i think, he's fucking dreadful tonight, gives the ball away when he passes, runs into trouble when he waddles along, he's been awful
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I've been behind GED From day one but we are ASTON VILLA and we should be competing to win trophies , not turning up with 8 changes and looking beaten before we start- tonight mr houllier has gone down hugely in my estimation!
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I'd swap Gabby for Ash and swap walker for petrov.
Walker left back and Delph in midfield.
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there is zero movement in front of the ball
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Crawley Town would've done better in this game than us. The fact that it was so fuckin predictable is the worst thing about it. Out of the cup in less than 5 minutes today.
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I dont even think the teams that week to be fair, it ent the strongest but were capeable of much much better than this.
Its funny, earlier in the week Houllier had made us look good again, and now he's the worst thing ever. Make yer minds up
My mind is made up. Fuck GH right out of the club. If this is not the time to play our strongest team when is?
And no it's not funny at all...
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What has happened to Kyle Walker, is he injured... ahh someone just posted he is on the bench, thanks!
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City have declared already, just sitting back and saving their energy.
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well this would be good if we were winning
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We're still in this. We just need the players to believe, especially in the final third. Sloppy defending is all that stops us.
This
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637 passes for fuck all !!!!!!!!
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Petrov is TERRIBLE. Time to go Stan.
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Great shot of the bench there. Are they still awake?
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Well this is FUCKING SHIT isn't it? Looks like we were sent out with the mission to keep the score down and can't even do that. What's on BBC1 now?
There's a vid of a baby laughing on the Yahoo! homepage that might cheer you up...
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I wouldn't be surprised to see another 4-0, although at least we've actually had some chances, and haven't looked completely shite this time.
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Petrov is fucking awful. Fuck off you slow fucker.
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We won the home game on the back of a massive signing and a great home support. We have been shite at City for years - no sign that is going to change. Learning that Delph is a good footballer and Bannan is exceptional. We retaining the ball much better, and have created 2-3 decent chances despite the scoreline. Poor defending twice has cost us dear, and some are showing they are not up to it. Petrov and Gabby both look poor.
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Agbonlahor is useless, so limited. He needs to watch Bent's movement and learn from him, He won't learn though because he just isn't good enough.
I hope the rumours of selling him are true
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Agbonlahor is useless, so limited. He needs to watch Bent's movement and learn from him, He won't learn though because he just isn't good enough.
I hope the rumours of selling him are true
Agree... He's been absolutely fucking dire.
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Well this is FUCKING SHIT isn't it? Looks like we were sent out with the mission to keep the score down and can't even do that. What's on BBC1 now?
There's a vid of a baby laughing on the Yahoo! homepage that might cheer you up...
I think I'll watch the sopranos instead.
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Houllier out
Cause that is going to happen. He has a trust in the squad, and some are performing well, some are not, but the opposition would twat our strongest team - oh they did 3 months ago 4-0 here.
What happened six weeks ago?
That's the point.
Send the kids out, get a twatting, you're out of the cup, but if the twatting is too heavy, it'll have a knock on effect detrimental to our brittle, but recently improved morale.
Send the best team we can out, and we've got a chance of winning this match. They'd also have been fired up for it, having done well at the weekend, and wanting to put right the last shit performance here.
If you take out the factor of those poor sods who travelled all the way over there, this is a worse capitulation than Moscow.
I only had a night off work to watch it on the telly, but I want my free dinner.
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I'd swap Gabby for Ash and swap walker for petrov.
Walker left back and Delph in midfield.
I'd leave Gabby on, he's made a coupler of decent runs, and take Fonz off. Otherwise I agree, would give us a better balance and Petrov has been dire so far.
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We won the home game on the back of a massive signing and a great home support. We have been shite at City for years - no sign that is going to change. Learning that Delph is a good footballer and Bannan is exceptional. We retaining the ball much better, and have created 2-3 decent chances despite the scoreline. Poor defending twice has cost us dear, and some are showing they are not up to it. Petrov and Gabby both look poor.
Yea and the manager is suicidal or clueless.
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We can't get out of our own half, mostly. We can't penetrate. It's not just the fact that the players are rubbish, it's the style of play. We ain't up to it. We should play to our strengths.
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I really wish this wasn't on TV
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I agree that the team selection was pants and that we should be pulling out all the stops for an FA cup game, but I can't agree we don't seem up for it, or aren't trying.
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I really wish this wasn't on TV
Don't worry, most of the country has switched off. It's fucking dire aside from the fact Villa are losing.
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I dont even think the teams that week to be fair, it ent the strongest but were capeable of much much better than this.
Its funny, earlier in the week Houllier had made us look good again, and now he's the worst thing ever. Make yer minds up
My mind is made up. Fuck GH right out of the club. If this is not the time to play our strongest team when is?
And no it's not funny at all...
The funny was as in strange funny, not haha funny
Well yeah it is our strongest team, maybe he feels this is a strong team capeable of winning the game, i dont think we've been that bad, 2 defensive mistakes and Petrov's been dreadful, thats all. I dont think were as bad as being made out.
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To be fair, the young players haven't looked too bad.
Petrov hasn't impressed for far too long now, and Gabby is one of the 'best' examples of a confidence player there is.
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Houllier out
Cause that is going to happen. He has a trust in the squad, and some are performing well, some are not, but the opposition would twat our strongest team - oh they did 3 months ago 4-0 here.
What happened six weeks ago?
That's the point.
Send the kids out, get a twatting, you're out of the cup, but if the twatting is too heavy, it'll have a knock on effect detrimental to our brittle, but recently improved morale.
Send the best team we can out, and we've got a chance of winning this match. They'd also have been fired up for it, having done well at the weekend, and wanting to put right the last shit performance here.
If you take out the factor of those poor sods who travelled all the way over there, this is a worse capitulation than Moscow.
I only had a night off work to watch it on the telly, but I want my free dinner.
Me an all.
Only if it's that VMF place, though. None of that curry and chips in the Holte Suite rubbish.
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Bannan is playing well.
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Bradley is not up to it.
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I'd swap Gabby for Ash and swap walker for petrov.
Walker left back and Delph in midfield.
?Take Heskey off push Gaby and the fonz in the middle,and play Ash on the right.
I'd leave Gabby on, he's made a coupler of decent runs, and take Fonz off. Otherwise I agree, would give us a better balance and Petrov has been dire so far.
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Ok.....so now we have in this magical 4 3 3 system Heskey on the left wing.........brilliant
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This is the first time I have seen Bradley. Jesus Christ he is absolute gash.
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I dont even think the teams that week to be fair, it ent the strongest but were capeable of much much better than this.
Its funny, earlier in the week Houllier had made us look good again, and now he's the worst thing ever. Make yer minds up
My mind is made up. Fuck GH right out of the club. If this is not the time to play our strongest team when is?
And no it's not funny at all...
The funny was as in strange funny, not haha funny
Well yeah it is our strongest team, maybe he feels this is a strong team capeable of winning the game, i dont think we've been that bad, 2 defensive mistakes and Petrov's been dreadful, thats all. I dont think were as bad as being made out.
You think this is our strongest team? Really?
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May watch Masterchef instead in a short while.
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We won the home game on the back of a massive signing and a great home support. We have been shite at City for years - no sign that is going to change. Learning that Delph is a good footballer and Bannan is exceptional. We retaining the ball much better, and have created 2-3 decent chances despite the scoreline. Poor defending twice has cost us dear, and some are showing they are not up to it. Petrov and Gabby both look poor.
I agree with all except Gabby, he hasnt looked too bad, some threatening runs. If we stick him up front we could do this i think
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I thought we'd loaned Stephen Ireland out
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By the time we play the mighty Bolton the rested players will have played ONCE in 3 weeks
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Don't bother making changes at HT Gerard. We've already lost this thanks in part to resting our best players so no point risking them now.
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Bannan is playing well.
Delph too... Other positives are hard to find.
A shame we can only have three subs as there are four or five players who are nowhere near good enough tonight.
I think I will take my bath now.
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They have strength in depth ready to come on and don't need the ..we need a 1/2 doz to come on and hope.
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I dont even think the teams that week to be fair, it ent the strongest but were capeable of much much better than this.
Its funny, earlier in the week Houllier had made us look good again, and now he's the worst thing ever. Make yer minds up
My mind is made up. Fuck GH right out of the club. If this is not the time to play our strongest team when is?
And no it's not funny at all...
The funny was as in strange funny, not haha funny
Well yeah it is our strongest team, maybe he feels this is a strong team capeable of winning the game, i dont think we've been that bad, 2 defensive mistakes and Petrov's been dreadful, thats all. I dont think were as bad as being made out.
You think this is our strongest team? Really?
No i put that wrong, i meant this isnt our strongest but its a strong team capeable of winning the game. I think two or three of them have let us down
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My mind is made up. Fuck GH right out of the club. If this is not the time to play our strongest team when is?
And no it's not funny at all...
Agree 100%. He can use his payoff to buy a ST at his beloved Anfield.
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Utter utter gash... I am running out of ways to vent my spleen.
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Bradley, Petrov and Gabby have been our worst players. I actually think Bannan has been excellent and Delph looks a good footballer. WE have created openings though and could easily have nicked one. We are so poor at the back it is unreal though.
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boooooooooooooo
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I think I'd be more disgusted with GH if he completely changes the team at half-time rather than leave it as it is.
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City are playing in neutral- they can step it up if they need to , gabby and heskey are not good enough to be here next season, deeply depressing evening- totally shocked by this.
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Citeh are winning this at walking pace, they cant believe it is this easy
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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i find it hard to agree with saying Houllier Out because he is getting us out of trouble in the league but there was no need to do what he has tonight. Baffling.
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Fonz looks out of his depth, lazy and with an attitude issue
Sell
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To be only losing 2-0 at HT seemed unthinkable 25 mins ago.
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anyone got a celtic v rangers link going?
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A more pathetic pile of horse shit you're not likely to see. Except that isn't true, because we've seen it many times this season. And a few times last season.
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My mind is made up. Fuck GH right out of the club. If this is not the time to play our strongest team when is?
And no it's not funny at all...
Agree 100%. He can use his payoff to buy a ST at his beloved Anfield.
Behave. We've been fairly good of late. He's picked the wrong team, which is a big fuck up and really fucking annoying, but for him to go would be pointless.
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Utter utter gash... I am running out of ways to vent my spleen.
It is futile though. I would bet my house on them beating us with our strongest side out at their place, so I am happy to see people like Bannan showing that he is up to it etc... Continuously lambasting Houllier for rotating the squad tonight is not going to achieve anything, and this team has played a damned sight better than the one did before Christmas.
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I've just switched off, listening to French radio instead.
Sac de merde.
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i find it hard to agree with saying Houllier Out because he is getting us out of trouble in the league but there was no need to do what he has tonight. Baffling.
Er, he's had a big part to play as why we're struggling.
But agree, why play this team? We are awful....so far.
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Fonz looks out of his depth, lazy and with an attitude issue
Sell
Sorry mate totally disagree, he has quality, let's not judge him on this game eh. He was exceptional in the last round.
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I wuld have been happier with at least Young and Walker in .. I like to see Bannon , Fonz and delph get a run. Fonz hasnt had the best of halfs and petrov proving again hes a waste of a player in there. and Gabby gets worse..
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Get Heskey and Bradley off. We need to go for it and take it to them. If we end up getting hammered i'd rather that and we tried than pass the ball on the halfway line for 45 minutes!
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Bannan and Delph have been good. I'm not going to give up on Bradley yet, he's barely played for us give him a chance. I'm disappointed we've taken this approach though.
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It such a strange decision. Pre-match Houllier made much of the 4-0 loss being the low point of his career, then he picks this team. This could easily be embarrasing, I think we are fortunate City have so many injuries as they are clearly taking it asy now.
I am worried that this could really stall our league recovery. No carrot of Wembley for the players just a relegation battle. I wonder what Ashley Young things of not playing tonight - it has probably made his mind to leave if he was in any doubt at all.
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We will win things he says?
Don't make me laugh, Mon would have been crucified for putting Delph at LB & rightly so, I think herd has done ok
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Agbonlahor is useless, so limited. He needs to watch Bent's movement and learn from him, He won't learn though because he just isn't good enough.
I hope the rumours of selling him are true
That'll be one more player who always scores against us when he plays.
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I think I'd be more disgusted with GH if he completely changes the team at half-time rather than leave it as it is.
That's exactly what I said. It'd be a bigger kick in the balls than it already is. I could see Ash coming on at 4-0 and getting sent off or injured. We have not come from behind to win in almost a year, and that was against relegated Portsmouth.
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Absolute dog shit.
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anyone got a celtic v rangers link going?
Quite hot up there.
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GH talks about giving up.
He surrended this before it even kicked off.
Utter disgrace. This is worse than Moscow.
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I've just about had it with football, seriously what is the point? All the time you spend watching them and they basically just concede the tie. This was out best chance of winning anything and he has just thrown it away i'm so fucked off with it all.
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My mind is made up. Fuck GH right out of the club. If this is not the time to play our strongest team when is?
And no it's not funny at all...
Agree 100%. He can use his payoff to buy a ST at his beloved Anfield.
Behave. We've been fairly good of late. He's picked the wrong team, which is a big fuck up and really fucking annoying, but for him to go would be pointless.
I know but I am venting my spleen and will calm down later but I feel sorry for all those who spent hard earned cash to go to Manchester and watch this.
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what was Petrov doing with that corner ..
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I'd be absolutely livid if I'd gone to this game.
3 days after our rivals win a trophy, following on from one of our best performances of the season, for a massive cup game live on national tv, he picks this team?
It's beyond belief.
This is exactly how I feel. Houllier even said we might be more motivated now Birmingham won the League Cup. And he talks about being sure that we will win trophies. And then he puts out this line up - it is a disgrace ! How can he drop Young, Walker, Reo-Coker and Downing after Saturday ???? Are they rested - if we loose, we will have a 2 week break after the Bolton game. Why not give it our best shot ?This is the most important game we have left !!! I am really angry about this. Houllier was slowly winning me over, but now...
To the game: Petrov is really bad and worse, he does not look bothered, they take the away from him so easily. Bannan tries and so do a few others. I hope for changes in the second half.
Is the General thread open again ?
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Utter utter gash... I am running out of ways to vent my spleen.
It is futile though. I would bet my house on them beating us with our strongest side out at their place, so I am happy to see people like Bannan showing that he is up to it etc... Continuously lambasting Houllier for rotating the squad tonight is not going to achieve anything, and this team has played a damned sight better than the one did before Christmas.
Exactly. Bannan has been really good so far. I don't agree with Ged but if he feels this will help us in the league then so be it.
I don't get all this city winning at walking pace stuff though, it's the only way they know how to play FFS! That second goal showed the quality they have at their disposal but Mancini still manages to do his best to bore the pants off the punters. I can't see them winning anything with him in charge.
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My mind is made up. Fuck GH right out of the club. If this is not the time to play our strongest team when is?
And no it's not funny at all...
Agree 100%. He can use his payoff to buy a ST at his beloved Anfield.
Behave. We've been fairly good of late. He's picked the wrong team, which is a big fuck up and really fucking annoying, but for him to go would be pointless.
I'm beginning to think for him to stay is pointless...it's only a matter of time. Whether it's the summer, 10 games next season, maybe he makes it to Christmas, Houllier will not succeed at Villa. Didnt want him in the first place, would have liked to have seen him gone at Xmas, briefly started to rethink after the sginings that were made, but a decision like tonight tells you what he thinks of our club...mid-table fodder, not capable of winning a cup.................Jesus, I missed the first goal on tv, do they even know what way they are supposed to defend corners??? That is a systemic problem, which is all down to management.
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We're a laughing stock.
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if we were in the bottom 3 i could understand
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well at least Tevez looks like hes coming on
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Tevez maybe coming on for Balotelli. Oh great
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Bannan and Delph have been great. The rest? Words fail me.
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I don't know what's worst our reserves losing or listening to that Ginger gonk fukin hasbeen Strachan.
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if we were in the bottom 3 i could understand
That's the thing. As wrong as it was, atleast MON had reasoning for Moscow.
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Bradley has been really dissapointing each time he's been on the pitch since arriving. The guy needs time to settle but his headless chicken routine is frustrating as hell, lots of endeavour but zero impact.
Coupled with the slow death of Petrov it leaves us with a completely ineffectual midfield.
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What a pile of Merde.
I had had enough after Sunderland but then things were getting better, but that selection and 1st half performance has left me pissed off again.
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i'd laugh if we won now
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Well this is squad rotation for you. An average side put out in our last chance of silverware. Since when has concentrating on one thing has to be at the detriment of the other. Houllier has let us, and more importantly the fAns there, with that team. Changes needed at half-time but it's too late now. Any momentum from Saturday should have been played into, not meekly surrunded.
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City are playing in neutral- they can step it up if they need to , gabby and heskey are not good enough to be here next season, deeply depressing evening- totally shocked by this.
Agree. They and Petrov just can't hold onto the ball and yet are our most experienced players.
And all the pace, what little there is, goes right out the window whenever Petrov or Heskey get hold of it...
Herd all over the place at right back, The Fonz is anonymous but Delph, Clark and Barry have impressed me
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Do you think If we bring Bent on wearing a Heskey mask , the ref would notice...
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Agbonlahor is useless, so limited. He needs to watch Bent's movement and learn from him, He won't learn though because he just isn't good enough.
I hope the rumours of selling him are true
That'll be one more player who always scores against us when he plays.
GH has ruined Gabby. Jesus wept.
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OK team selection seems a little strange and I can understand the criticism.
But in Gerrard we trust,its going to be ok.
I will quote this to you all in 2 hours time when we have won.
I hope.
How's your trust holding up?
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If we were going to put out such a weakened team then fans should have been made aware of it- many will have travelled expecting to see the best team out there and houllier has let them down big time- ambition? I agree with earlier poster , ash will have no doubt about the clubs ambition after tonight, I wish him well and fully understand why he would want to join a club who aim to win trophies.
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i'd laugh if we won now
I'd shit the bed. And the bed's upstairs.
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Bannan and Delph have been great. The rest? Words fail me.
Bannan is a gem. Messi/Sid player.
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The worst than Moscow talk being trotted out is nonsense. Bent is cuptied and we have a number of players (Cuellar, Collins etc) injured. I'd much rather give a run out to players who will be here next season than Warnock or Beye who have been generally poor this season.
Bannan is playing well, as is Delph and Herd. Would like to see NRC come on for Petrov, and Young/Downing/Albrighton for Heskey
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Behave. We've been fairly good of late. He's picked the wrong team, which is a big fuck up and really fucking annoying, but for him to go would be pointless.
Golf clap for Ged! We've been fairly good with a squad that finished 6th three seasons running bolstered by a record signing forward and could still get dragged into the relgation mire if this capitulation saps our morale.
Sorry, no passion, a lack of regard for the Villa and although getting Bent was a coup I think there are managers out there that could do more with the resources at his disposal. If it has to wait till summer so be it but he just doesn't get it.
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I think I'd be more disgusted with GH if he completely changes the team at half-time rather than leave it as it is.
That's exactly what I said. It'd be a bigger kick in the balls than it already is. I could see Ash coming on at 4-0 and getting sent off or injured. We have not come from behind to win in almost a year, and that was against relegated Portsmouth.
I'm glad Ash aint on. Imagine the diving.
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This is all part of Ged's big plan to eventually win things. The clueless twat couldn't win a raffle.
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GH talks about giving up.
He surrended this before it even kicked off.
Utter disgrace. This is worse than Moscow.
Not sure about that but it's definately VERY shit. On a positive note though Delph and Bannan continue to look like very good young footballers. Don't know what to make of Bradley, he can play a bit (apart from the comedy loose pass just before the end), but he's not the dynamic all action general i was hoping for. He's a bit like what we already have, i.e. Makoun and Petrov.
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Evening all.
What an absolute pile of shite, that team selection is absolutely fucking disgraceful. What little chance we had of winning was blown away when Houllier decided that we might as well chuck it all away. I wish he'd fuck off.
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If we were going to put out such a weakened team then fans should have been made aware of it- many will have travelled expecting to see the best team out there and houllier has let them down big time- ambition? I agree with earlier poster , ash will have no doubt about the clubs ambition after tonight, I wish him well and fully understand why he would want to join a club who aim to win trophies.
I'm sure a lot of fans bought tickets after the weekend thinking this would be our biggest game of the season, I feel very bad for the fans who made the trip, just like they did against Moscow. I hope we turn it around but it is a smack in the face for all of us and kind of sums up our season.
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Well at least we know we can pass it around nicely in our own half. I feel so let down by the team selection and performance.
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So fuckin glad I had to work and couldn't fly over for this. I'd have been back at the airport by now. How fuckin predictable. It was over at 1-0. 4 minutes!!!
You might have had an evening of better weather though...
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Well this is squad rotation for you. An average side put out in our last chance of silverware. Since when has concentrating on one thing has to be at the detriment of the other. Houllier has let us, and more importantly the fAns there, with that team. Changes needed at half-time but it's too late now. Any momentum from Saturday should have been played into, not meekly surrunded.
Absoloutely, we come off a decent victory with a team shape playing football and a chance of A qtr final against Reading in the cup we have not won in most of our life times, so we make 8 changes to achieve what? supporting your team is about hopeing for glory and special days, i really am totally confused
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Squad rotation isn't really a valid argument. It only works if you are not going to seriously weaken your side when you do it. That's not the case tonight. We've simply rested our best players and put weaker ones in. Fair play to Bannan and Delph, although they have a good shout for our strongest line up anyway.
And I can't agree with this 'they'd have beaten our strongest side anyway' argument. May as well give up on any game against a good side then, despite beating them at ours not so long back.
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Even Adrian Chiles feels sorry for Villa fans at this peak time TV embarrassment. Jesus wept.
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I wonder if Hou knows about moscow.
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Nil desperandum...oh dear its already 2 desperandum
come on ..give it a go ..please.
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Adrian Chiles had some faux sympathy for Villa at half time. Or so it seemed to me.
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The worst than Moscow talk being trotted out is nonsense. Bent is cuptied and we have a number of players (Cuellar, Collins etc) injured. I'd much rather give a run out to players who will be here next season than Warnock or Beye who have been generally poor this season.
Bannan is playing well, as is Delph and Herd. Would like to see NRC come on for Petrov, and Young/Downing/Albrighton for Heskey
Bulls**t.
This should have been all about getting the result no matter what. NRC right back and Walker left back would not have been perfect but might have done a job.
Young and Downing should have been definite starters, no 2 ways about it.
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wheres the support
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Bradley has been really dissapointing each time he's been on the pitch since arriving. The guy needs time to settle but his headless chicken routine is frustrating as hell, lots of endeavour but zero impact.
Coupled with the slow death of Petrov it leaves us with a completely ineffectual midfield.
ISn't this only his secon
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Some balanced views on here in support of the manager, but frankly I just see a manager who does not understand his customers. His supporters have seen the local rivals lift a trophy at Wembley and he plays a side that has no chance from the start.
Last weekend he said the break from football was frustrating, now we have a break for another weekend GH, and plenty of time for the supporters to think how they are going to spend their weekends from August.
I won't shop elsewhere, but my season ticket will not be renewed next year.
Bring on the General.
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Toure twat
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I hate to say it but I agree with Strachan, we have to beat Bolton now. We have no excuse, everyone is rested and ready. Im so pissed off, the only bonus so far is Bannan, lets hope we have a storming second half...
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OK team selection seems a little strange and I can understand the criticism.
But in Gerrard we trust,its going to be ok.
I will quote this to you all in 2 hours time when we have won.
I hope.
How's your trust holding up?
Merde
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Bradley has been really dissapointing each time he's been on the pitch since arriving. The guy needs time to settle but his headless chicken routine is frustrating as hell, lots of endeavour but zero impact.
Coupled with the slow death of Petrov it leaves us with a completely ineffectual midfield.
ISn't this only his second or third appearance? First start?
Trouble is no one gives anybody a chance any more.
man City have scored one lucky goal and one good goal. The good goal aided by the fact we don't have a left back that's fit enough or good enough to play - I wouldn't blame delph.
Gabby is a goalscorer and nothing else. Has been for years. heskey is heskey.
Nothing is new here.
This is what O'neill left us with.
This season was always going to be write-off let's not get too upset and too judgemental. 15 years since we won a trophy and it's not houllier's fault.
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So fuckin glad I had to work and couldn't fly over for this. I'd have been back at the airport by now. How fuckin predictable. It was over at 1-0. 4 minutes!!!
You might have had an evening of better weather though...
Hiya, how was your visit? Better weather? Oh, you mean the rain we've had. Yeah it's been pretty shit, but it's freezing in Manchester apparently.
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Southgate says we have to keep it at 2-0. That should do it.
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This is a joke. Humiliated on national TV.
Resting players for a match on Sunday against Bolton! Another fuck up from Houllier who hasn't got off his arse yet to motivate the kids.
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Gabby's not the wettest fish in the sea, is he?
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Petrov is barely moving.
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get bloody heskey off
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and Bradley to think of it
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Petrov and Heskey need to come off
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Houllier has turned Gabby from a bloody good centre forward into a shit winger. And Bradley's passing is fucking woeful, get him off.
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Michael Bradley is SHIIIIIIIIITE!
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That's our spell over. Now citeh will get a third soon. Then 2 in the last 5 mins
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Unless I misheard, thought the ITV commentator said something about a quarter final game against Everton. Though my attention span has waned.
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Fuck GED, fuck villa, fuck football.
"we will win things" then does this. All I care about it winning a trophy, fuck Bolton.
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Gabby's as thick as fuck, isn't he?
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Petrov terrible.
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unhappy. I like our players and see some really good stuff but do not think they are a team to beat MC. Hope I am wrong or GH brings on supersubs.
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Hiya, how was your visit? Better weather? Oh, you mean the rain we've had. Yeah it's been pretty shit, but it's freezing in Manchester apparently.
Had a good time in spite of the rain: Went through all the Mallorcan wines in "Wineing". Had the tasting menu at "Basmati". Had a John Dory in "Pope". Got a take-away from "Maharajah". Had squid and sardines in "C'an Quiros" in Port Soller. Hit the market along the road in front of la Llotja, had Italian in Santa Maria. Didn't eat a single orange.
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It would be nice to make some changes and have a go.
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Its the culture of defeatism that has set in that concerns me. Its like DOL all over again.
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Imagine if we lose at Bolton?
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seem to be more life in is this half.
need a change now though otherwise we have given up
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I wonder what the reactions would be like on here if this game suddenly turned around?
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Is he going to make any changes?? Can he not see we are losing this and need to change it?
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I wonder what the reactions would be like on here if this game suddenly turned around?
I'd imagine we'd be happy, it still doesn't defend the awful selection by our manager though.
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thats it .......
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wankers the fucking lot of em
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FUCK OFF
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I was going to say game over, but it was that along time ago.
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big dog's cock
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I wonder what the reactions would be like on here if this game suddenly turned around?
Fuck me, that will never happen now......
Too late to change fuck all
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Any chance of a fucking sub, seeing as we're 2-0 down?
Make that 3-0. I repeat, fuck off Houllier you clueless clown.
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A complete and utter disgrace, yet utterly predictable scoreline. Fucking horsecack.
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about to bring Young and Downing on and its 3 nil, Right I want GH gone
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Capitulation from team selection through to final whistle.
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Bradley has been really dissapointing each time he's been on the pitch since arriving. The guy needs time to settle but his headless chicken routine is frustrating as hell, lots of endeavour but zero impact.
Coupled with the slow death of Petrov it leaves us with a completely ineffectual midfield.
ISn't this only his second or third appearance? First start?
Trouble is no one gives anybody a chance any more.
man City have scored one lucky goal and one good goal. The good goal aided by the fact we don't have a left back that's fit enough or good enough to play - I wouldn't blame delph.
Gabby is a goalscorer and nothing else. Has been for years. heskey is heskey.
Nothing is new here.
This is what O'neill left us with.
This season was always going to be write-off let's not get too upset and too judgemental. 15 years since we won a trophy and it's not houllier's fault.
Rubbish - it is his fault tonight.
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Why bother bring Young and Downing on now?
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What was the fucking point. So fucking disgusted with Houllier. What a fucking idiot. Someone has to ask him why he's played this team after the match.
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Young and Downing may as well sit down again. A fucking disgrace this from Gerard.
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Fuck me i have a whopping headache. whats the point of bringing young on now if you wanted to rest him, hes not going to turn around 3 goal lead.
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Houllier said he has never had a team give up like we did at Man city in league
Well, HE fucking gave up BEFORE tonights game.
I am soooooooo fucked off with tonight its unreal.
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Unacceptable. Simple as.
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City are playing easy and can step it up anytime they need to- tonight me houllier has slipped massively in my estimation and we now look like a club happy to just stay up rather a club who aim to win things- very sad indeed.
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Too late GH you fucking twat.
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We had just built up a bit of momentum and it's been obliterated by this, great.
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The season has finished. We was never in danger of getting relegated. We're clearly too good compared to the other teams so why play that team tonight. Twat.
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Subs? Now? An utter waste of time and effort. Houllier's fucked up right and proper this time.
Again.
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That team selection tonight was just unacceptable. I'd like to see the General spin his way out of this.
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Houllier should have gone at Christmas.
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Why leave it til we're 3-0 down to change. Poor selection before the game compounded by dreadfully poor reaction to events on the pitch
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What if Young or Downing get injured or red carded now. Why bring them on at 0-3, when they should have been on at half time??!! Houllier out.
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Houllier should have gone at Christmas.
Agreed.
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Should have bought subs on at half time...
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Let's rest Young and Downing - great idea. Probably better not to admit you got in totally fucking wrong and bring them on when the match is totally gone.....
There have been several players who have had a mare, but nobody more than Houllier. Let's see if he takes this firmly on his chin. Dreadful surrender much worse than Moscow.
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I wouldn't bother making a change just yet, as soon as we're safe I'd send him on his way and try and prepare for next season.
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I wonder what the reactions would be like on here if this game suddenly turned around?
You are a massive optimist I'll give you that.
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I'm not sure what to make of this
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He picked a team to get beat tonight. THAT is why he can fuck off
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Well it's too late to bring them on now, what an idiot.
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Didn't want Downing on, I wanted my money back :(
Someone needs to tell the General this is now NOT to get bums on seats next season
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Houllier should have gone at Christmas.
Agreed.
You just want to get rid of any manager Villa have.
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Just when GH looked liked he knew what he was doing, just when we had some momentum, just when moral was creeping up....arghhhh
I'm all for playing the kids and reserves but pick the games carefully...Man City away, quarter final vs Reading waiting...really?
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Should have bought subs on at half time...
He should have had them on from the start surely.
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I'm not sure what to make of this
I am SHIT
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Fuck you Houllier......another season over i'm sick to death of football.
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We just can't pass properly, we miss simple 5 yard passes!
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This is on a par with his behaviour at Liverpool- I have backed GED but I really don't see where we are going here- the lack of ambition quite frankly stinks , utterly disgusting team selection and I'm not sure he will get the benefit of doubt some fans have given him- I really have rarely felt so low about things as I do now- dreadful dreadful night.
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Houllier should have gone at Christmas.
Agreed.
where do i vote?
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His position will be, I came in with the brief to keep Villa in the Prem.
Fuck everything and everyone else, this is what I will do, even if it means sacrificing FA cup glory.
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He picked a team to get beat tonight. THAT is why he can fuck off
Thing is we've all been wondering where Bannan was, he plays him and now he probably wont after this, Very annoying
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From the BBC live text coverage.
It is hard to disagree.
2115: Anyone think Gerard Houllier should be fined for disrespecting the FA Cup tonight? Villa have just brought on Stewart Downing and Ashley Young - at 3-0 down away at Manchester City. Utterly ridiculous.
City goal: Oh Villa. You broke the FA Cup's heart tonight, you truly did. Man City it up as Pablo Zabaleta plays a neat one-two and crosses from the right and when Chris Herd's header falls to David Silva right on the edge of the penalty area, the Spaniard takes a touch and rifles a low drive past Brad Friedel.
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I'm not sure what to make of this
I'm not. Totally baffling
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I'm sure this will do wonders for our end of season relegation fight. Proper confidence job this one.
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We've been a laughing stock all season, now this useless shit. Im so pissed off. It proves that Houllier doesnt undertsand Villas fans, I can understand resting a few, but this is shocking and to bring Young and Downing on makes it worse.
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Houllier should have gone at Christmas.
Agreed.
where do i vote?
The problem is that, he finally goes and gets some real support behind him, starts to get some half decent results, start to suggest there's some solidarity in the camp, and then BOOOM, he fucks it all up the wall by doing this.
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Houllier should have gone at Christmas.
Agreed.
You just want to get rid of any manager Villa have.
Only the shit ones.
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I can't quite believe what i'm seeing tonight. I'm actually quite staggered by the whole thing. I suppose I can see the 'stay in premier league at all costs' point of view, but still........just so disappointing. This was a prize worth fighting for, in my opinion.
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Just when GH looked liked he knew what he was doing, just when we had some momentum, just when moral was creeping up....arghhhh
I'm all for playing the kids and reserves but pick the games carefully...Man City away, quarter final vs Reading waiting...really?
Exactly - the need to keep some momentum going was clear for us all to see. Why not him? Even if we had gone out with a fight, we could have dusted ourselves off and got back up like we did after Old Trafford. But this???? I fear for us at Bolton. Houllier needs a win to say the least.
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dreaful lack of ambition. if we get 17th place in the league every season at the expense of winning things whats the goddamn point? i wasnt too fussed by moscow but this is something else.
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Petrov, Agbonlahor, Heskey, Bradley ALL fucking useless
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No pressure on him for Villa getting a result saturday now !! Ye Gods...only at Villa...
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so, if we get done at Bolton (a high possibilty) how will he square it with throwing his game?
Moscow and stoke springs to mind.
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He picked a team to get beat tonight. THAT is why he can fuck off
Thing is we've all been wondering where Bannan was, he plays him and now he probably wont after this, Very annoying
Gash utter utter gash...
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Not only would I fine Houllier for showing utter disrespect to the FA Cup, but I'd also bitch slap the idiot for showing complete contempt for Aston Villa and its fans. Then sack him. He's gone and done it. This is the last straw for me.
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Petrov, Agbonlahor, Heskey, Bradley ALL fucking useless
Agreed. Add Houllier and McAllister to that. Useless wankers.
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I'm not sure what to make of this
Humiliating
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End the match already.
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Not only would I fine Houllier for showing utter disrespect to the FA Cup, but I'd also bitch slap the idiot for showing complete contempt for Aston Villa and its fans. Then sack him. He's gone and done it. This is the last straw for me.
very,very hard to disagree
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I am SHIT
very,very hard to disagree
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I'm done with the lot of them.
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This is on a par with his behaviour at Liverpool- I have backed GED but I really don't see where we are going here- the lack of ambition quite frankly stinks , utterly disgusting team selection and I'm not sure he will get the benefit of doubt some fans have given him- I really have rarely felt so low about things as I do now- dreadful dreadful night.
For once I agree 100% with you.
It stands in stark contrast to this morning's events where Ireland showed what can be done with passion, desire and a will to win even when the odds are against you.
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I'm not sure what to make of this
I am SHIT
You ain't that bad, mate!
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This is 90 minutes of my life I wont get back, wish I'd played Killzone 3 instead.
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We knew it would be a difficult game to win but Houlliers not given us a chance here
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Why is Walker coming on now?
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Just bought my ticket for Bolton as well. Wish I hadn't bothered.
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I don't want to get rid of every manager we have, just the bad ones. Houllier is a rank rotten bad manager. What makes me say that? What I have seen with my own eyes this season.
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thats why Walker didnt play then , but why bring him on now..
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Petrov, Agbonlahor, Heskey, Bradley ALL fucking useless
This is a managerial fuck up. Lets not take it out on the players. The side is totally unbalanced and lacking belief.
I never thought we'd stoop so low as to rest players for a relegation fight.
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Why the FUCK is he bringing on first team players when the game is dead. It is worse than resting them - a nice little run out where they are probably at risk of a pulled muscle or something. It truly is baffling. Seriously Houllier - fuck off.
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Coco the Clown would be an improvement on this fucking inept idiot of a manager, unless he wanted us to get beaten tonight.
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In the post-match interview he has to be asked why he's picked this team and not be allowed to leave the interview until he's given a good enough answer.
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I am really pleased with bannan and herd. Having said that, how does GH motivate tham the next time he plays them? same with delph. and probably the more experienced ones as well.
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Just bought my ticket for Bolton as well. Wish I hadn't bothered.
Shall we stay at the Bromilow Arms instead of going to the game?
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Yount to put this into orbit or into the wall. The keeper can go have a fag
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Yount to put this into orbit or into the wall. The keeper can go have a fag
Told Ya....
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Just bought my ticket for Bolton as well. Wish I hadn't bothered.
We might play our 1st team there though. Unless we rest them for Wolves!
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Even McAllister looked embarrased on the telly
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I wonder if Young/Downing etc. asked GH what the fuck he was doing?
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Our fans are class!!! That was the highlight of the evening.
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Has Hart only made one save?
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Oh the passion he shows on the bench. One thing MON would not have done is set there like that.
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Lets face it we don't win live on TV and we deffo dont win in March, quite a master stroke from Ged putting out that team.
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McAllister looking at his fucking feet. Houllier looking bored. Shame on them both.
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I've been alternating between watching this shite and the Sporano's so forgive me, but have we even had a shot at goal?
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Tonight has been totally beyond a joke. Yes GH you are joker. You couldn't have got it more wrong if you had tried. Yes again you are making us look stupid.
Please give up and go. You know how to give up.
I have waited a life time to see us win the FA Cup - utter wanker.
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Yount to put this into orbit or into the wall. The keeper can go have a fag
Told Ya....
Yount? ****** more like...
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Just bought my ticket for Bolton as well. Wish I hadn't bothered.
We might play our 1st team there though. Unless we rest them for Wolves!
Well we now have 2 games in the rest of March so they will be getting a lot of rest.........
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All day I've been so optimistic about this game and since I saw the teamsheet i've been in some kind of shock - I really do not expect a wink of sleep tonight, whatever happened to our club that so proudly used to battle for trophies, are we now a club who just aims to survive?
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We have been rubbish and it's all Houllier's fault
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What you have seen tonight is a old man, who thinks he is right regardless of anyone elses input. He is suffering from altziemers and needs to be sent back to France where he can be looked after. Never have i seen such inept football management.
He is French for gods sake what did we expect.
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Villa fans enjoying themselves
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I still that french knob to fuck off.
Ok we can beat Blackburn yeah
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I hate that no neck bastard...
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Brilliant from the fans there. Houllier turned the game into a farce, and the fans are treating it as such. Brilliant statement.
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Least they enjoying themselves behind the goal :)
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Laughing stock. Works gonna be fun in the morning.
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The match ball is ours!
The match ball is ours!
Fuck off Man City!
The match ball is ours!
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Well done to the fans up there, they are a credit and they deserve better than this.
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Well at least the villa fans are making themselves heard and enjoying themselves even in these times. HOLTEENDERS IN THE SKY!
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I've been alternating between watching this shite and the Sporano's so forgive me, but have we even had a shot at goal?
I turned over to Masterchef at 3-0. I wanted to turn off at 1-0 but the missus wanted to watch us get mullered for some reason.
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Shame on you Houllier. This will not be forgotten.
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Thanks houllier, no better than oneill. White flag merchant.
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Did he does this when his beloved LFC were going for the 3 cups that season??????
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Shame on you Houllier. This will not be forgotten.
+1
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I can't remember a game where we've so completely never looked like scoring...
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Shame on you Houllier. This will not be forgotten.
Don't be too hasty - if somehow we turn this around and win 4-3 and go on to win the FA Cup.
Then next season we do the domestic treble.
And buy Lionel Messi.
Then I might just forget this sinking fucking feeling.
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What you have seen tonight is a old man, who thinks he is right regardless of anyone elses input. He is suffering from altziemers and needs to be sent back to France where he can be looked after. Never have i seen such inept football management.
He is French for gods sake what did we expect.
I'm sorry mate that's not funny, I have people in my family that have that and its not nice I can tell you
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I feel flatter than Kate Moss's chest. Thank-you Mr H, f*ck off back to France.
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Thanks houllier, no better than oneill. White flag merchant.
I'm no MON apologist, but he is far worse than MON. At least he would have had a bit of passion on the touch line. The manager doesn't give a flying fuck, why should the players. I salute the fans.
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I can't remember a game where we've so completely never looked like scoring...
I can, lots of them.
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
FUCK OFF HOULLIER
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Fucking, cunting, bastard-well BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Fuck you Houllier and fuck your fucked up stupid team selection.
You really know how to piss fans off who have put up with so much hurt in the FA Cup dont you?
Lets me think, off the top of my head.
1967,we played Liverpool off the park at Anfield for 20 minutes then just gave up. An abject home defeat to fellow relegation strugglers Rotherham in 68, 3-0 down at h/t at Torquay in R1,losing at 4th div Southend with that joker Tommy Hughes in goal.3-0 at Oldham,losing at home to Fulham when they were in the 3rd tier,the semi defeat at old Trafford to the scousers and that twat fowler,the q/f defeat at Anfield,and the one at west ham,losing at Bramall lane,pig faces crap at Man c,the 2000 cup final god wasnt that shite,last seasons let down at wembley.....and many many more
well im getting more and more pissed off with this Houllier, its another nail in the coffin,and its a 54 year old coffin and the wood is starting to rot,but not just that,,,, now you come along and and before the fuckin game even starts you had to also take off the nice looking brass handles and plaque off our sorry looking coffin so that all we are left with is a rotting piece of wood which has some scrawled notes inside written by elderly supporters and others looking down telling us about Johnny Dixon,Peter McParland
etc and their memories of..................1957.
FUCK OFF HOULLIER. THAT WAS MERDE MERDE MERDE.
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Houllier, OUT, OUT OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is a total disgrace and total lack of respect to our club, it's proud FA cup history, a total lack of respect to the fans and another nail in the coffin of the FA cup.
Where are we going with this idiot in charge?
Get rid now!
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I will not be renewing my season ticket after that humiliating disgrace.
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Did anyone hear the commentator say they would play everton in the next round at 2-0?
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Shocking, he needs a kick up the derriere!
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Did anyone hear the commentator say they would play everton in the next round at 2-0?
Yes I picked that up- Reading fans will have enjoyed that...
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The first thing the general should do is to stop the stupid twat making ridiculous statements to the media. Shortly we are to be treated to one of his "hark at me,don't I speak trendy english" remarks along the lines "if it had come off, they would all be singing my name" bollocks. He is a gallic poltroon, a walking football flea market of a manager.