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Title: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on December 21, 2010, 10:00:44 AM
2-0 Home win

Heskey 48
Cuellar 88
Title: Spurs
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 21, 2010, 10:02:44 AM
P-P draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on December 21, 2010, 10:06:57 AM
There's little prospect of a thaw before the weekend so it must be in serious doubt but I hope they make an early announcement if it is going to be off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on December 21, 2010, 10:07:21 AM
P-P

Can't see the ice going away til after Boxing Day.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on December 21, 2010, 10:16:57 AM
Snow & Ice  1 - 0 Game
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on December 21, 2010, 10:21:23 AM
2-1 to spuds Albrighton.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on December 21, 2010, 10:26:49 AM
I'll go for a P-P draw
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on December 21, 2010, 10:33:20 AM
If this goes ahead then I'll go for a 1-1.

Heskey to score for us. Someone usually shit for them will score. Jenas?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on December 21, 2010, 10:57:23 AM
Pools Panel - Score draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 21, 2010, 10:58:42 AM
I won't grieve if this one is off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on December 21, 2010, 11:04:28 AM
Almost certainly off, we're due heavy snow tomorrow which won't thaw.

In the highly unlikely event it's played, 1-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Karlos96 on December 21, 2010, 11:12:45 AM
If it's played which is looking doubtful 2-1 to Spurs.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WikiVilla on December 21, 2010, 12:42:25 PM
Best result for us would be P-P
Get some players back and a couple of new signings in
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on December 21, 2010, 12:49:39 PM
Draw if it's on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 21, 2010, 01:17:09 PM
2 all draw if played.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Summers on December 21, 2010, 01:23:26 PM
I understand that there is a lot of snow, I  also understand that at the moment the roads are awful and I finally understand that there is some more snow on the way.  However, why is this seemingly certain to be called off?.

The pitch will be fine, the stands will be fine, it's just a case of working together, like Man City did last night to clear the necessary walkways, pavements, entrances etc.   If that is done, then like most of the Heineken Cup Rugby matches at the weekend, this should go ahead surely?.

People can then make their own minds up as to whether or not they want to travel to the game or watch it on TV.   I have travelled into Birmingham City Centre for work all of this week and nobody has shut the city centre down for safety concerns?.

I look forward to the Boxing Day game almost more than any other in the season.  It's a great atmosphere, well as much as it can be in the Upper Trinity ;) and if, after working all this week and looking forward to the game, it's then called off, I will be gutted.

Presuming it's on, I go for a 1-1 draw.

UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on December 21, 2010, 01:25:29 PM
1-1

They score early after we better 'em, we spend the game ontop and equalise around 72 minute mark.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WikiVilla on December 21, 2010, 01:26:59 PM
Cant see Villa making a massive effort to get the game on or Houllier wanting it on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 21, 2010, 01:36:19 PM
Trouble is we'll then have two away games at Man. City and Chelsea and that's two defeats imo so I'd prefer to try to get another point on the board to take into those games really.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on December 21, 2010, 01:38:23 PM
I understand that there is a lot of snow, I  also understand that at the moment the roads are awful and I finally understand that there is some more snow on the way.  However, why is this seemingly certain to be called off?.

The pitch will be fine, the stands will be fine, it's just a case of working together, like Man City did last night to clear the necessary walkways, pavements, entrances etc.   If that is done, then like most of the Heineken Cup Rugby matches at the weekend, this should go ahead surely?.

People can then make their own minds up as to whether or not they want to travel to the game or watch it on TV.   

There's no public transport so the roads and car parks will be more over worked. There are 3000 who need to travel from London. They haven't had the same amount od snow in the nort west. It's played late so the pitch has more chance of freezing. Rugby isn't played with the ball on the ground so isn't a valid comparison. Who do you suggest gives up their Christmas to clear the surrounding area, are you willing to volunteer?

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: nico2708 on December 21, 2010, 01:40:50 PM
has anybody been near villa park since our last home game on december 11th, who can report what the roads and pavements are like around there at the moment???
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 21, 2010, 01:41:39 PM
The walkways are o.k but not sure they'll cope with 40k.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on December 21, 2010, 01:45:32 PM
I went there today. It was fine for the amount of traffic etc there but would be a nightmare when 40,000+ are around and about.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UsualSuspect on December 21, 2010, 01:52:41 PM
has anybody been near villa park since our last home game on december 11th, who can report what the roads and pavements are like around there at the moment???

I drove past yesterday going to Tesco's and it was fine, would only be a problem if we get another heavy fall of snow and judging by the met offices website they aint got a fucking clue...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on December 21, 2010, 01:56:25 PM
1-1

They score early after we better 'em, we spend the game ontop and equalise around 72 minute mark.

I agree with the score but I think this statement is more correct for Spurs fans.

Albrighton 14

Defoe 72
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on December 21, 2010, 02:24:58 PM
We've our players back. Assou-Ekotto by his own admission doesn't give a fuck, he won't like the cold and Albrighton will tear him apart. Downing will have Hutton inside out and Ashley will have donkey Dawson spinning.

Not being clinical enough will cost us the three points, again. But we'll get something and a positive performance to accompany it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Summers on December 21, 2010, 02:27:52 PM
I understand that there is a lot of snow, I  also understand that at the moment the roads are awful and I finally understand that there is some more snow on the way.  However, why is this seemingly certain to be called off?.

The pitch will be fine, the stands will be fine, it's just a case of working together, like Man City did last night to clear the necessary walkways, pavements, entrances etc.   If that is done, then like most of the Heineken Cup Rugby matches at the weekend, this should go ahead surely?.

People can then make their own minds up as to whether or not they want to travel to the game or watch it on TV.   

There's no public transport so the roads and car parks will be more over worked. There are 3000 who need to travel from London. They haven't had the same amount od snow in the nort west. It's played late so the pitch has more chance of freezing. Rugby isn't played with the ball on the ground so isn't a valid comparison. Who do you suggest gives up their Christmas to clear the surrounding area, are you willing to volunteer?



Chris, I didn't say it was going to be easy to get the game on, far from it.  But I personally don't think we should just give up.

Using the cross city rail line on a daily basis, I would suggest that not having the trains on is a bonus ;), bit flippant there, sorry.    As I said above, I would like to think that Villa will make the effort to get the game on and then people can make their own minds up about whether they want to travel or not.   I would guess that there will be many who have had tickets bought them for Christmas and if they are young, may not be able to attend the re-arranged date, if it's a school night?.

Not sure what the link is to not having the same amount of snow in the North West.  They had enough on Saturday to have the Liverpool and Wigan games called off, but Blackburn and City made the effort and got their games on.

In terms of the Rugby, I honestly don't agree with you.  The ball spends plenty of time on the ground, as do the players, more than Footballers.  I think that's a perfectly valid comparison.

I have no idea who would clear the surrounding areas Chris but if the forecast is correct (laugh) and we don't get any snow after tomorrow, then presuming the roads are gritted and paths cleared BEFORE Christmas, then no one should have to give up time over the holidays?.

I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree on this matter and just wait and see what happens.   It's damn cold out there, so maybe you are right and the game should be called off nice and early to allow everyone to plan their Boxing Days.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on December 21, 2010, 02:40:13 PM
Dave, my own circumstances are probably influencing my thinking on this in that it would suit me if it was called off. If it isn't I'll be there and will make the most of it but if I didn't have to travel on Boxing Day I wouldn't be the worst thing that ever happened.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 21, 2010, 02:52:01 PM
I went there today.

That's it then, game off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andyaston on December 21, 2010, 03:13:53 PM
Its a boxing day game at home shoved back to 5.30 for the Sky TV cameras for the third time on the trot so, I couldn't give a toss if its called off. It would be nice to see a home game on the 26th december kicking off in daylight, I hope every game Sky has shoved back over the festive period gets called off serve them right tossers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on December 21, 2010, 03:16:25 PM
We've our players back. Assou-Ekotto by his own admission doesn't give a fuck, he won't like the cold and Albrighton will tear him apart. Downing will have Hutton inside out and Ashley will have donkey Dawson spinning.

Not being clinical enough will cost us the three points, again. But we'll get something and a positive performance to accompany it.

Wonder how Lichaj will cope with Bale? I hope he can....

The difference will be someone like Defoe.

He can pounce on a rebound or a half chance and lash it away, we have no-one to do that.

Gabby will be too busy strolling to the back post and Heskey will be outside the box.

We seriously need a striker with the instinct to poach.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on December 21, 2010, 03:20:01 PM
I understand that there is a lot of snow, I  also understand that at the moment the roads are awful and I finally understand that there is some more snow on the way.  However, why is this seemingly certain to be called off?.

The pitch will be fine, the stands will be fine, it's just a case of working together, like Man City did last night to clear the necessary walkways, pavements, entrances etc.   If that is done, then like most of the Heineken Cup Rugby matches at the weekend, this should go ahead surely?.

People can then make their own minds up as to whether or not they want to travel to the game or watch it on TV.   

There's no public transport so the roads and car parks will be more over worked. There are 3000 who need to travel from London. They haven't had the same amount od snow in the nort west. It's played late so the pitch has more chance of freezing. Rugby isn't played with the ball on the ground so isn't a valid comparison. Who do you suggest gives up their Christmas to clear the surrounding area, are you willing to volunteer?



Chris, I didn't say it was going to be easy to get the game on, far from it.  But I personally don't think we should just give up.

This is England Dave, of course we should just give up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Fuse on December 21, 2010, 03:26:35 PM
The game can easily be played if the work is doen to clear the areas. Now Villa should know whether that is going to be done or not now so I would apprecaite them telling us now if the work isn;t going to be done and that the games is off as I cna make other arrangements for Boxing Day. What I don;t want is them calling it off on Boxing Day and coming out with the shit that the area is unsafe - theyw ill know that prior to the day.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hipkiss92 on December 21, 2010, 03:31:57 PM
Its a boxing day game at home shoved back to 5.30 for the Sky TV cameras for the third time on the trot so, I couldn't give a toss if its called off. It would be nice to see a home game on the 26th december kicking off in daylight, I hope every game Sky has shoved back over the festive period gets called off serve them right tossers.

wasn't it actually moved to the 27th last year?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andyaston on December 21, 2010, 03:53:14 PM
Its a boxing day game at home shoved back to 5.30 for the Sky TV cameras for the third time on the trot so, I couldn't give a toss if its called off. It would be nice to see a home game on the 26th december kicking off in daylight, I hope every game Sky has shoved back over the festive period gets called off serve them right tossers.


wasn't it actually moved to the 27th last year?

The away v Arsenal was yes. Im actually refering to our homes games on Boxing day. If you look back our last 3 against Everton, Arsenal and now Spurs have all been moved back to early evening kick offs. No fun for those who want to use public transport, they have no way of getting back.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andyaston on December 21, 2010, 03:56:39 PM
And while we at it, the last 2 times we played away on Boxing day our festive home games v Chelsea 2006 and last year v Liverpool were evening kick offs. Sky and ESPN hate us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Left Side on December 21, 2010, 04:44:23 PM
I have gone for P-P but if it goes ahead, 1-2 to the spuds... this game has come just too soon for us, we could have done with playing them in February when some of our new players are established ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on December 21, 2010, 04:55:07 PM
It won't go ahead.

In the unlikely scenario that it does go on we will lose 2-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on December 21, 2010, 06:22:49 PM
1-3 defeat if its played
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: nicardinho on December 21, 2010, 06:35:21 PM
The referee is Martin Atkinson (West Yorkshire)

His other Villa game this season was our unfortunate thrashing away to Newcastle, while Spurs have beaten Liverpool and lost to West Ham with Atkinson in charge.

He has shown 7 reds in just 18 games so far this season.

Atkinson will be assisted by Paddy Keane (chequered flag) and Peter Kirkup (yellow flag), while Lee Mason is 4th official.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 21, 2010, 07:34:22 PM
I hate playing Spurs, will be nervous for this.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Greg N'Ash on December 21, 2010, 07:49:33 PM
1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on December 21, 2010, 08:15:43 PM
1-0
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Walshmeister on December 21, 2010, 08:15:58 PM

1 - 4 Heskey.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on December 21, 2010, 08:59:08 PM
When was the last time we had a game abandoned due to weather ? Ive never known one.

Note I said weather, Rangers friendlies dont count.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 21, 2010, 09:14:58 PM
Its a boxing day game at home shoved back to 5.30 for the Sky TV cameras for the third time on the trot so, I couldn't give a toss if its called off. It would be nice to see a home game on the 26th december kicking off in daylight, I hope every game Sky has shoved back over the festive period gets called off serve them right tossers.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on December 21, 2010, 09:50:37 PM
I understand that there is a lot of snow, I  also understand that at the moment the roads are awful and I finally understand that there is some more snow on the way.  However, why is this seemingly certain to be called off?.

The pitch will be fine, the stands will be fine, it's just a case of working together, like Man City did last night to clear the necessary walkways, pavements, entrances etc.   If that is done, then like most of the Heineken Cup Rugby matches at the weekend, this should go ahead surely?.

People can then make their own minds up as to whether or not they want to travel to the game or watch it on TV.   

There's no public transport so the roads and car parks will be more over worked. There are 3000 who need to travel from London. They haven't had the same amount od snow in the nort west. It's played late so the pitch has more chance of freezing. Rugby isn't played with the ball on the ground so isn't a valid comparison. Who do you suggest gives up their Christmas to clear the surrounding area, are you willing to volunteer?



Chris, I didn't say it was going to be easy to get the game on, far from it.  But I personally don't think we should just give up.

This is England Dave, of course we should just give up.

The thing is, no matter who's fault it is and whether we should be better prepared etc. etc....if the transport system is still fucked up on Boxing Day should we really be throwing an extra unnecessary 40,000 people onto it?
It's only a footy match, it won't matter much in the grand scheme of things if we play it a  bit later on!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on December 21, 2010, 10:21:51 PM
Unless there is a monumental downpoor of snow which is not predicted then the game will go ahead. The problem is that the met office can more easily predict rain sun and wind than snow. Snow clouds block out the satelites, they have no idea when or where they will precipitate.So lets pretend its on
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Holtenderinthesky on December 21, 2010, 10:31:00 PM
0-1. 

No idea who will score but I'm convinced it'll be a defensive fuck up and we'll miss numerous chances to equalise.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on December 21, 2010, 11:36:54 PM
Aston Villa    1                                Spurzzz    1

Frosty The Snowman 36 min           Jack Frost    45 min   
Snow White  missed pen 89 min     attendance      0     
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 22, 2010, 12:02:08 AM
I hope the Man City game at Newcastle goes ahead so they will have had a long trip two days before playing us. Although if it is postponed, Toure will be suspended against us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mr Diggles on December 22, 2010, 07:48:15 AM
Seen Tottenham play a few times this season and when they are motivated and going forward they are really, really good. I think we'll battle hard, but will fall well short in the quality stakes. They've outplayed us a few times over the course of the last couple of seasons and we've got away with some lucky points on occasion, but I think it will be beyond Villa this year unfortunately. Away win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on December 22, 2010, 09:27:10 AM
Its a boxing day game at home shoved back to 5.30 for the Sky TV cameras for the third time on the trot so, I couldn't give a toss if its called off. It would be nice to see a home game on the 26th december kicking off in daylight, I hope every game Sky has shoved back over the festive period gets called off serve them right tossers.

Agreed.

Abit pathetic guys, Sky is our main source of income, the more we are on TV the more we earn. If we want too eventually crack the top four We need to except Sky run the show.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on December 22, 2010, 10:48:33 AM
Its a boxing day game at home shoved back to 5.30 for the Sky TV cameras for the third time on the trot so, I couldn't give a toss if its called off. It would be nice to see a home game on the 26th december kicking off in daylight, I hope every game Sky has shoved back over the festive period gets called off serve them right tossers.

Agreed.

Abit pathetic guys, Sky is our main source of income, the more we are on TV the more we earn. If we want too eventually crack the top four We need to except Sky run the show.

It's people's pathetic acceptance of that fact that has us in that position.

Sky don't help anyone break the top four, they only help in keeping the top four, the top four. They inventing the stupid term.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Greg N'Ash on December 22, 2010, 10:53:09 AM
Aye. Never had it. And you're a mug if you do, especially when you consider they get much better coverage abroad for less money. You can sit down and watch any of the saturday kick-offs live on some of their foreign subscription services while the people who pay for thier empire can't.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 22, 2010, 10:55:59 AM
Aye. Never had it. And you're a mug if you do, especially when you consider they get much better coverage abroad for less money. You can sit down and watch any of the saturday kick-offs live on some of their foreign subscription services while the people who pay for thier empire can't.

You can also get off your arse and go to watch the team you support.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 22, 2010, 10:58:47 AM
Seen Tottenham play a few times this season and when they are motivated and going forward they are really, really good. I think we'll battle hard, but will fall well short in the quality stakes. They've outplayed us a few times over the course of the last couple of seasons and we've got away with some lucky points on occasion, but I think it will be beyond Villa this year unfortunately. Away win.
Whilst I agree with what you say, you only have to look at the results this season to see that anybody can beat anybody. The deciding and winning factor for me is teams that go out there without fear of the opposition, are more likely to come away with 3 points. Everton at Man City on Monday being the latest example.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Greg N'Ash on December 22, 2010, 10:59:13 AM
Yes, i believe you can. Thanks for that valuable insight.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on December 22, 2010, 11:14:25 AM
Its a boxing day game at home shoved back to 5.30 for the Sky TV cameras for the third time on the trot so, I couldn't give a toss if its called off. It would be nice to see a home game on the 26th december kicking off in daylight, I hope every game Sky has shoved back over the festive period gets called off serve them right tossers.

Agreed.

Abit pathetic guys, Sky is our main source of income, the more we are on TV the more we earn. If we want too eventually crack the top four We need to except Sky run the show.

It's people's pathetic acceptance of that fact that has us in that position.

Sky don't help anyone break the top four, they only help in keeping the top four, the top four. They inventing the stupid term.

That's abit of ignorance there, the facts are they are our main income therefore dictate  the kick off times, we should be happy we are regarded as a top team.
I have no problem with different kickoff times every week it brings abit of variety to football.
 I personally think an evening kick off creates a better atmosphere and let's face it Villa Park has been shocking for about a year now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on December 22, 2010, 11:27:52 AM


That's abit of ignorance there

Which bit of my post was ignorant?

I'd agree there seems to be a
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on December 22, 2010, 02:28:49 PM
Sky is the worst thing ever to happen to football.   It has infected our national game with greed and egos.   Sky money is the drug and unfortunately all the clubs are now hooked and need it to survive. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on December 22, 2010, 03:46:53 PM


That's abit of ignorance there

Which bit of my post was ignorant?

I'd agree there seems to be a

Calling peoples acceptance of Sky pathetic, saying sky only help the top four, it's just jumping on the band wagon of sky bashing.

In my opinion Sky should be able to pick which games they show which sways towards the top teams. The only problem I have is how the money is dished out.

I think all 20 clubs should receive the same TV money regardless of how often they are on sky, but don't the Premier league dish the money out?

We cannot change this, so we have to play by their rules, meaning I want Villa on Sky as much as possible to increase our turnover, it's a sad predicament to be in but what can we do?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ChrissyPrice on December 22, 2010, 06:29:00 PM
Despite Villa's clear reluctance to clear the gangways/car parks etc the ref doesn't postpone it. Spurs stroll to a 3-0 half-time lead with the Sky lot excitedly talking about the PL trophy going to WHL.
But due to the late kick off the pitch freezes over and it is abandoned in the 57th minute.

A reinvigorated Villa, with all their new signings, stroll the replayed match 4-1 in March.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on December 22, 2010, 08:20:16 PM
I was at Villa today, not one path or walkway has been cleared, so I dunno what's going too happen
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 22, 2010, 09:00:06 PM
I was at Villa today, not one path or walkway has been cleared, so I dunno what's going too happen

If they've any sense they'll wait to see what thaws and clear the rest in the days leading up to the match.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on December 22, 2010, 09:04:31 PM
Ye i was down there today and quite shocked at the snow covered paths etc. Probably waiting until sunday am cause if they clear it now will only have to do it all again ......
Title: Spurs
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 23, 2010, 12:14:03 AM
If it does get abandoned when we're losing it will make up for when the cheating bastards ran all over our pitch to get a Cup game that we were winning called off. They won the restaged tie.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on December 23, 2010, 10:02:41 AM
Well Lawros got us down to win 2-1 so 1-3 to them then
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: DB on December 23, 2010, 11:17:03 AM
Not sure if mentioned anywhere else but Petrov and Delph back in full training. This game will be too soon but maybe a bench place.....? Anyway, good news.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on December 23, 2010, 11:36:43 AM
I reckon it will be on now.

1-1 draw

Gabby
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on December 23, 2010, 11:37:17 AM
One of those crazy, unexpected festive results. 4-2 Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on December 23, 2010, 11:55:53 AM
We can win this one if we pack the midfield and deny their creative players space, but I have this horrible worry of Luke Young against Gareth Bale. To play Bale your positioning has to be just right, and honestly Young's positioning at full back can be frighteningly poor - and then he dives in. If he does this then frankly we could fine ourselves two or three down before we know what's hit us, it's game over and we're staring at a thrashing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on December 23, 2010, 12:57:19 PM
Is this a good time to say that I really, really, don't like Spurzz??

They're the most annoying team from London.

All I want for Christmas is a win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on December 23, 2010, 01:04:03 PM
Pools Panel result - score draw. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Oscar Arce on December 23, 2010, 03:21:51 PM
There's no more snow forecast till Boxing Day for B6 so not clearing any of the areas around the ground by now would seem a bit of a cockup already.
When will the pitch be inspected ?
Any news at all from the club ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ajmant on December 23, 2010, 04:00:35 PM
There was no snow forecast for the Redditch area, it was supposed to miss us, then we had 5 or 6 inches. So I'm with the club here, wait and see then clear whats left cause as far as I can see, the weathermen have as much idea as where the snow will fall as Ireland has motivation for playing for Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WikiVilla on December 23, 2010, 04:09:01 PM
I've a feeling it will go ahead now, no more snow forecast and Sky will pressurise Villa to make sure the game is on

1-2 defeat, Spurzzzz currently a league above us, they'll punish our porous defence, late winner Defoe
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on December 23, 2010, 05:07:48 PM
Either it'll be played and we'll be defeated, or it'll be postponed, and then we'll be defeated when it's played. So that's a defeat, 0-2.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: glasses on December 23, 2010, 05:29:11 PM
Aye. Never had it. And you're a mug if you do, especially when you consider they get much better coverage abroad for less money. You can sit down and watch any of the saturday kick-offs live on some of their foreign subscription services while the people who pay for thier empire can't.

You can also get off your arse and go to watch the team you support.
You can if you can afford it, which isn't as easy as it was pre sky. Does it make you any less of a supporter if you cant afford to go to matches?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: DB on December 23, 2010, 05:37:40 PM
Aye. Never had it. And you're a mug if you do, especially when you consider they get much better coverage abroad for less money. You can sit down and watch any of the saturday kick-offs live on some of their foreign subscription services while the people who pay for thier empire can't.

You can also get off your arse and go to watch the team you support.
You can if you can afford it, which isn't as easy as it was pre sky. Does it make you any less of a supporter if you cant afford to go to matches?

You can afford Sky but not go to the matches, hmmm. Sky subscription per year - say £40 per month x 12 = £480 or a season ticket, mine was less than £400.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Holtenderinthesky on December 23, 2010, 05:42:30 PM
Is Ash fit for this?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on December 23, 2010, 06:19:06 PM
Aye. Never had it. And you're a mug if you do, especially when you consider they get much better coverage abroad for less money. You can sit down and watch any of the saturday kick-offs live on some of their foreign subscription services while the people who pay for thier empire can't.

You can also get off your arse and go to watch the team you support.
You can if you can afford it, which isn't as easy as it was pre sky. Does it make you any less of a supporter if you cant afford to go to matches?

Glasses, this is Greggers, who still won't go while Uncle Doug is pulling the strings.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on December 23, 2010, 08:20:03 PM
Is Ash fit for this?

According the the press, yes, he is.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 23, 2010, 08:30:15 PM
Aye. Never had it. And you're a mug if you do, especially when you consider they get much better coverage abroad for less money. You can sit down and watch any of the saturday kick-offs live on some of their foreign subscription services while the people who pay for thier empire can't.

You can also get off your arse and go to watch the team you support.
You can if you can afford it, which isn't as easy as it was pre sky. Does it make you any less of a supporter if you cant afford to go to matches?

It does if you're gregnash.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on December 23, 2010, 08:51:42 PM
If its on 3-2 Villa...    I think it could be on.. 

my girlfriend who is small  ( but fit ) has cleared the big drive today for me as the car was sliding while going up the drive. A little muscle, hot water and snow scraper she tells me , a  bloody good job..       so get some men/ stewards /volunteers  down VP clearing the pavements  etc and it should be ok....   whats the bloody point in having over soil heating nowaday.

;-)    UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villa1 on December 23, 2010, 09:13:52 PM
Juan, just to be sure the match goes ahead, send your missus to help clear the snow.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on December 23, 2010, 11:23:33 PM
Count me in if your misses is going! 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: glasses on December 23, 2010, 11:45:08 PM
Aye. Never had it. And you're a mug if you do, especially when you consider they get much better coverage abroad for less money. You can sit down and watch any of the saturday kick-offs live on some of their foreign subscription services while the people who pay for thier empire can't.

You can also get off your arse and go to watch the team you support.
You can if you can afford it, which isn't as easy as it was pre sky. Does it make you any less of a supporter if you cant afford to go to matches?

You can afford Sky but not go to the matches, hmmm. Sky subscription per year - say £40 per month x 12 = £480 or a season ticket, mine was less than £400.
Thanks for the economics lesson. Can you point out where I said I could afford sky though?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on December 23, 2010, 11:48:58 PM
If its on 3-2 Villa...    I think it could be on.. 

my girlfriend who is small  ( but fit ) has cleared the big drive today for me as the car was sliding while going up the drive. A little muscle, hot water and snow scraper she tells me , a  bloody good job..       so get some men/ stewards /volunteers  down VP clearing the pavements  etc and it should be ok....   whats the bloody point in having over soil heating nowaday.

;-)    UTV
humm your small fit girlfriend scraping ice off the drive, muscle hot water and a scraper, can she cook?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on December 24, 2010, 04:13:53 AM
Is Ash fit for this?

According the the press, yes, he is.

According to G-Hou at the pre-match press conference today it's unclear. Ashley hasn't trained this week but he could do some over tomorrow and Chrismtas Day.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on December 24, 2010, 04:15:35 AM
We can win this one if we pack the midfield and deny their creative players space, but I have this horrible worry of Luke Young against Gareth Bale. To play Bale your positioning has to be just right, and honestly Young's positioning at full back can be frighteningly poor - and then he dives in. If he does this then frankly we could fine ourselves two or three down before we know what's hit us, it's game over and we're staring at a thrashing.

Luke Young is injured. But if Eric Lee-High deputises again your worry about full-backs diving in on Bale and getting shafted could still hold true as the young Yank was prone to it a bit against West Brom.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on December 24, 2010, 04:16:10 AM
I reckon it will be on now.

1-1 draw

Gabby

Yep - if I was a betting man etc. this is what I'd go with.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on December 24, 2010, 04:20:46 AM
Sky money is the drug... 

Love is the drug for me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: *shellac* on December 24, 2010, 04:23:29 AM
Us 46 - 2 Them

Us:  Band Aid (84)
Them:  Wham!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on December 24, 2010, 08:38:04 AM
I would think that the match will be on barring another load of snow, all car parks, stairs etc were clear its just that the pavements toward the Aston Tavern etc were not.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on December 24, 2010, 08:41:08 AM
The TURKS HEAD @ASTON UNI IS OPEN FOR PRE AND POST MATCH DRINKS £1.90 A PINT just a bus ride from ground  and walking distance from  NEW ST...
You'll be lucky if there's any busses on Boxing day Sunday
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on December 24, 2010, 09:52:33 AM
If ash is out I guess we play gabby and heskey? Not sure he would trust bannan to play a second striker role? Possibly better to play downing there with bannan left?in fact I think I quite like that. Worried what bale might do to lichaj
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on December 24, 2010, 10:27:38 AM
The TURKS HEAD @ASTON UNI IS OPEN FOR PRE AND POST MATCH DRINKS £1.90 A PINT just a bus ride from ground  and walking distance from  NEW ST...
You'll be lucky if there's any busses on Boxing day Sunday

There is a service on most routes on Boxing Day.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on December 24, 2010, 10:52:44 AM
The TURKS HEAD @ASTON UNI IS OPEN FOR PRE AND POST MATCH DRINKS £1.90 A PINT just a bus ride from ground  and walking distance from  NEW ST...
You'll be lucky if there's any busses on Boxing day Sunday

There is a service on most routes on Boxing Day.

Don't they stop running after a certain time on Boxing Day though? That's one of the reason's why the 5.30 k/o pissed a lot of people off i think.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on December 24, 2010, 11:53:26 AM
The TURKS HEAD @ASTON UNI IS OPEN FOR PRE AND POST MATCH DRINKS £1.90 A PINT just a bus ride from ground  and walking distance from  NEW ST...
You'll be lucky if there's any busses on Boxing day Sunday

There is a service on most routes on Boxing Day.

Don't they stop running after a certain time on Boxing Day though? That's one of the reason's why the 5.30 k/o pissed a lot of people off i think.

Yep, you can get there Ok on the bus but not home again afterwards so it's taxis for us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Simon Ward on December 24, 2010, 11:55:01 AM
Snow joke this predictions lark! In the spirit of generosity and giving I'll go for 2-2.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on December 24, 2010, 01:23:58 PM
Didnt realise it had been so long... 'Arry hasn't lost a league game against us in four and a half years.

Last time we beat one of his sides was Pompey at VP when Alpay scored I think.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on December 24, 2010, 02:56:49 PM
No, it was Baros, early March '06. We won 1-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on December 24, 2010, 03:06:38 PM
Under normal circumstances you'd have to go for the Tottingham win.

They've had our number in the last three games we've played them (even if they've only won one) and we haven't exactly improved since then.

We could have done with playing Wigan last weekend and possibly entering this one with two wins under our belts and a bit of pressure off. Lose this and -with the next few games we have coming up- we could well and truly in the shit.

Christmas always throws up a few surprise results though. As good as Tottenham are going forward they still look like they can be 'got at' at the back. Some pretty ordinary teams have rolled them this season.

Hopefully they don't even see us as that big a rival anymore and treat this one as just another fixture to fulfil, as per their performances v Bolton, West Ham and the Olbiyun.

4-1 Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: fredm on December 24, 2010, 03:14:31 PM
Would really like to see the Fonz get some game time alongside Emile.  I think his best position could well be playing off the main striker and we can all remember what Emile and Little Micky did for one another, can't we?

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on December 24, 2010, 03:30:39 PM
The irritating thing abour Sppppuurrrrrrs is that a few teams have turned them over in the last couple of seasons; just not us. Ol' frying-pan face does seem to get motivated to beat Villa; perhaps it's the undisguised vitriole aimed at him whenever he walks down the pitch to the dug-out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on December 24, 2010, 03:41:18 PM
..............................Friedel.............................

Lichaj...........Cuellar.............Collins.......Warnock

.....................Hogg.............NRC.......................

Albrighton..........................................Downing

.................Agbonlahor.....Heskey.....................

Guzan, Clark, Dunne, Bannan, Herd, Carew, Delfouneso

    2              -         2
Heskey 18          VDV 36
Downing 87        Pavlyuchenko 54
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt on December 24, 2010, 07:48:54 PM
Due to this fucking stupid kick off time many people who use buses will struggle. Buses in Birmingham are ceasing between 7:00 - 730pm.

Thanks Sky - you wankers. I won't be going (therefore not using my season ticket) -  I ain't paying double fair for a taxi back to Oldbury (on my own) as my mates are all doing as they're told by their women.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on December 24, 2010, 09:31:51 PM
I am travelling with my wife's cousin, a Spurs fan.

Inevitably we will lose and I will accidentally leave him behind at Corley Services
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on December 24, 2010, 10:33:49 PM
Corley? Man, that's cruel.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on December 24, 2010, 11:03:29 PM
Ok, Rothersthorpe. Tied up in a fertiliser sack

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WikiVilla on December 25, 2010, 11:45:13 AM
Is the game definitely on?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: levico on December 25, 2010, 12:17:25 PM
Our best hope is that the match will be postponed and replayed in Feb/March when we've signed some decent players and are not looking at the yawning chasm which is the drop to the Championship.

Most probably though the match will be played tomorrow and we will lose, probably quite convincingly.

Happy Christmas everyone. ;D
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Karl Bridges on December 25, 2010, 12:45:45 PM
Due to this fucking stupid kick off time many people who use buses will struggle. Buses in Birmingham are ceasing between 7:00 - 730pm.

Thanks Sky - you wankers. I won't be going (therefore not using my season ticket) -  I ain't paying double fair for a taxi back to Oldbury (on my own) as my mates are all doing as they're told by their women.
If you can get to Cape Hill we can give you a lift there and back.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on December 25, 2010, 01:17:38 PM
jingel bells jingle bells jingle all the way
Oh what fun it woud be to see Spurs stuffed away!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 25, 2010, 03:23:50 PM
we'll win this. I'm sure the instruction will be to attack them as much as possible to keep them on the back foot. Spurs are a good side especially if you let them play and it will be a big day for Lichaj and Albrighton controlling the right side against Bale. But if we're positive, and with bodies now coming back into contention we can take it to them. 2-1 Villa - Gabby and Downing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on December 25, 2010, 04:59:59 PM
All this talk of Bale.. Yeah it's going to be a big day for Bale, tracking back trying to contain Super Marc!

3-1 they will be pressing for an equailiser and we will hit them on the break, Downing puts Bannan clean through and he curls it in the top left corner. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on December 25, 2010, 06:07:53 PM
Lawro's got us to win.

We're doomed!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on December 25, 2010, 07:27:12 PM
Really looking forward to this.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: nicardinho on December 25, 2010, 07:45:08 PM
To my knowledge, no special pitch inspection gas been called, so no more doubt than usual at present.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on December 26, 2010, 01:18:41 AM
This game will be on. Undersoil heating been on for a week and pitch has been covered, with no snow forecast and sky coverage ..........
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on December 26, 2010, 05:44:06 AM
Lawro's got us to win.

We're doomed!

Sweet Jesus and all the angels.

Would have been quite happy without that info. Why do I suddenly picture that scene from A Bronx Tale, with the fat guy that gets on a sure thing and ruins it for everyone else?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 26, 2010, 10:02:21 AM
Why do I suddenly picture that scene from A Bronx Tale, with the fat guy that gets on a sure thing and ruins it for everyone else?
Fear not, Dunne will be on the bench.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on December 26, 2010, 10:04:42 AM
I hope it's reinforced.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ez on December 26, 2010, 10:58:09 AM
Due to this fucking stupid kick off time many people who use buses will struggle. Buses in Birmingham are ceasing between 7:00 - 730pm.

Thanks Sky - you wankers. I won't be going (therefore not using my season ticket) -  I ain't paying double fair for a taxi back to Oldbury (on my own) as my mates are all doing as they're told by their women.
Due to this fucking stupid kick off time many people who use buses will struggle. Buses in Birmingham are ceasing between 7:00 - 730pm.

Thanks Sky - you wankers. I won't be going (therefore not using my season ticket) -  I ain't paying double fair for a taxi back to Oldbury (on my own) as my mates are all doing as they're told by their women.
It never snows when you want it to. Postponment would have been best all round.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Quiet Lion on December 26, 2010, 12:20:43 PM
I fear a beating in this game. 0-3
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on December 26, 2010, 12:30:13 PM
I disagree. I think we'll win this one. NRC to strengthen the middle of the park. If Ash is fit, then its a dilemma over whether to put him in behind Heskey (who battered Spurs at WHL) or play Gabby up top with Hogg central in a 4-4-2.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on December 26, 2010, 01:32:32 PM
Spurs have only won one game outside the M25 this season.

Pretty sure that will continue this afternoon.

2-0, Albrighton and Heskey.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on December 26, 2010, 02:38:59 PM
Delph and Petrov on bench  ;-D
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WikiVilla on December 26, 2010, 02:54:00 PM
Don't want to state the obvious but defeat today and we are in deep deep shit
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheTimVilla on December 26, 2010, 03:57:25 PM
I fear a beating in this game. 0-3
Sadly, I agree with you. Would love to be proved wrong. COME ON YOU LIONS!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on December 26, 2010, 04:21:13 PM
I've been to the pub.

5-0 Villa.
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