Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Diablo on October 05, 2010, 10:01:07 PM
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Not sure if this has been highlighted on here, but if not, it's well worth a look!!
Liverpool fans and celebs have made a video trying to oust their current owners (apologies for the long link but I don't know how if it is possible to shorten it?)
Calm down, calm down (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news//tm_headline=watch-mike-jefferies-anti-tom-hicks-and-george-gillett-film-video%26method=full%26objectid=27409037%26siteid=100252-name_page.html)
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Well it's worked as they've accepted two bids for the club
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They've received two bids, but H&G are not up for accepting either as there is no profit for them.
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I've not really been following this one too closely, from the outside it seems that the owners have provided shit loads of money for players but other owners have provided a bit more and they are struggling to compete at the very top end of the table, just like they have been for the last twenty years.
What exactly is the dippers beef with the owners?
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Sky news on the web reporting that bids have been accepted but sky sports news on the box are reporting they have not. Strange.
Wounder what the banks will say.
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I've not really been following this one too closely, from the outside it seems that the owners have provided shit loads of money for players but other owners have provided a bit more and they are struggling to compete at the very top end of the table, just like they have been for the last twenty years.
What exactly is the dippers beef with the owners?
Sounds like us pre-Randy.
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I've not really been following this one too closely, from the outside it seems that the owners have provided shit loads of money for players but other owners have provided a bit more and they are struggling to compete at the very top end of the table, just like they have been for the last twenty years.
What exactly is the dippers beef with the owners?
Sounds like us pre-Randy.
But when we complained we were seen as whingers who should be happy with what we had. Anyone know many Scousers who sympathised with us pre-Randy?
Now it's Liverpool, it sometimes seems as though they believe whole country should join their crusade.
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What a load of puke inducing shit. When are these wankers going to realise the world doesn't revolve around them.
Proud history, shite future.
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I can't stand them but fair play to 'em for putting the effort in.
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I've not really been following this one too closely, from the outside it seems that the owners have provided shit loads of money for players but other owners have provided a bit more and they are struggling to compete at the very top end of the table, just like they have been for the last twenty years.
What exactly is the dippers beef with the owners?
Sounds like us pre-Randy.
But when we complained we were seen as whingers who should be happy with what we had. Anyone know many Scousers who sympathised with us pre-Randy?
Now it's Liverpool, it sometimes seems as though they believe whole country should join their crusade.
Not only that, but there were a fair number of Villa fans who thought the protesters were whingers too, and were apparently happy with the way things were going. As mawkish as the scousers frequently are (and they really are difficult for most rational and stoical folk to stomach), at least they are united and won't settle for being third rate. They might have to settle for being second rate.
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Still, it's a laugh isn't it?
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What a load of puke inducing shit. When are these wankers going to realise the world doesn't revolve around them.
Proud history, shite future.
Quite. I don't recall too many complaints when Hicks and Gillette showed up.
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Spot on PeterWithesShin.
I just had a little watch of the video and observed with open mouth the lead singer of Echo and the Bunnymen claim that all the Liverpool fans were being "raped" every week because of their owners.
Hyperbole, self-pity and scousers. This video ticks all the boxes and then some!
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I've not really been following this one too closely, from the outside it seems that the owners have provided shit loads of money for players but other owners have provided a bit more and they are struggling to compete at the very top end of the table, just like they have been for the last twenty years.
What exactly is the dippers beef with the owners?
Sounds like us pre-Randy.
Although there was some stupid comment made about Doug, did anyone compare his ownership of the club as the equivalent as him raping a close family member?
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I have just lit another candle.
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Although there was some stupid comment made about Doug, did anyone compare his ownership of the club as the equivalent as him raping a close family member?
Probably not, but no-one has yet wanted Liverpool's owners to die screaming in agony with their last breath.
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Not on that video but I suspect their message boards might have another story.
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Although there was some stupid comment made about Doug, did anyone compare his ownership of the club as the equivalent as him raping a close family member?
Probably not, but no-one has yet wanted Liverpool's owners to die screaming in agony with their last breath.
Wait until they've been there 20 years, got them relegated and had a stand named after them.
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Still, it's a laugh isn't it?
Definitely!! A couple of lines from the Mirror made me chuckle too...
1)Does anyone think Woy might have misunderstood when Liverpool told him to bring them a Championship?
2)Can't write a funnier line than the Radio City phone-in caller who said: "Glen Johnson couldn't defend an innocent man."
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Still, it's a laugh isn't it?
Definitely!! A couple of lines from the Mirror made me chuckle too...
On the powder to celebrate eh?
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I sent the guy a tweet thanking him because I haven't laughed so much in years.
A bad move?
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I work with people who have been raped. That comment about 'all your close family being raped' is offensive beyond belief. Faded rock stars obviously live in the same guilded unreality as Premiership footballers.
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Liverpool motto 'no more yanks'
They hv just been bought by another amercian owner. Who looks no better than what they have lol!
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The difference between HDE and Hicks&Gillett is that we criticised Doug for being to prudent, for not taking risks -- whereas Hicks&Gillett are criticised for not having any money and making promises they couldn't keep. Apparently, one of the factors behind the Barry saga was that Benitez were told that he would have money to meet our asking price, but then it turned out that wasn't the case.
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I wonder if anyone will ape that video, to encourage their present owners to stay.
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What is the point of it? Are the owners not aware that they're not wanted? This will come as a big shock to them and really help the sale along....
Fuckwits.
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I'm shocked and disappointed nobody has commented about the name of the person who made the video!
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I wonder if anyone will ape that video, to encourage their present owners to stay.
Genius!! lol
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got to be a spoof hasnt it, no body would make anything as bad as that intentionaly surely
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Built by Shanks
Ruined by Yanks
Supported by celebrity Wank(ers)
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Did you know they followed man utd's example of making there own team? Their fucking awful btw, got smashed in the fa cup in the lowest level by the lowest level of semi pro!
I hope they go out of buisiness, i felt sorry for portsmouth fans, these i couldnt give a toss about..
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Did you know they followed man utd's example of making there own team? Their fucking awful btw, got smashed in the fa cup in the lowest level by the lowest level of semi pro!
Good for them if they form their own club. It's something I doubt our supporters would ever be capable of doing. And they're not "fucking awful", they're currently joint top of their division with a game in hand.
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Did you know they followed man utd's example of making there own team? Their fucking awful btw, got smashed in the fa cup in the lowest level by the lowest level of semi pro!
That's actually one of the few things I'll credit them with - I do admire the Wimbledon and FC United fans who set up their own teams rather than just sit back and moan about their plight. So fair play to the scousers too - even more so if they're crap. I'd expect no less from them to be honest.
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Did you know they followed man utd's example of making there own team? Their fucking awful btw, got smashed in the fa cup in the lowest level by the lowest level of semi pro!
Good for them if they form their own club. It's something I doubt our supporters would ever be capable of doing. And they're not "fucking awful", they're currently joint top of their division with a game in hand.
Why would you say that?
I think you're probably right though. I doubt that we'd be as sanctimonious and self-obsessed as the scouse/manc axis of evil, and start another version of our football club because suddenly circumstances are not completely stacked in our favour and someone else might get the success we see as our right.
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Why would you say that?
I think you're probably right though. I doubt that we'd be as sanctimonious and self-obsessed as the scouse/manc axis of evil, and start another version of our football club because suddenly circumstances are not completely stacked in our favour and someone else might get the success we see as our right.
I saw what happened when the anti-Doug campaigns kicked off.
As for FCUM and AFC, you don't understand why they (and Wimbledon) were founded. You don't demand success by starting off in the North-West Counties League. It's nothing to do with being sanctimonious, it's because their founders hated the way their own clubs, and modern football, was going and wanted to get back to enjoying themselves again. It's why so many of us now watch non-league.
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Wimbledon had their club taken away from them. Completely.
To compare them with the likes of FC United is crass.
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Wimbledon had their club taken away from them. Completely.
To compare them with the likes of FC United is crass.
FCUM would argue that they had their club taken as well. Calling them self-obsessed becasue they wanted to form a new club might not be crass, but it ignored the facts.
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"If I knew my team wouldn't be in the top 4 I would have followed a different team!"
And now they are being bought by the Redsox owners. Couldn't DREAM of a better ending.
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Can someone summarise what G&H have done that is soooooo bad?
Surely under their reign they allowed Benitez to buy some awfully overpriced shit - they have agreed with Woy to also bring in players
Coles wages (Circa £100K per week) the bin dippers thought that was brilliant at the time
Poulsen
Konchesky
and i am sure of a few others
what do these self delusional wheelcap knickers expect - Kaka / Messi to rock up to 'The Mighty Reds YNWA'
they really do need to take stock of the modern game and realise name alone does not get you anywhere
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Hopefully they will be unfurling the 'Yanks Out' banners and flags again in 6 months time. It is impossible to feel any sympathy whatsoever for Liverpool supporters, as has already been mentioned I don't recall any demonstrations when Hicks and Gillett bought the club.
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That is the most cringe-worthy embarrassing videos I have eve seen.
"It's like raping your family, all of them, over a long period of time."
Jesus Christ! It's like Children in Need.
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Jesus Christ! It's like Children in Need.
It's Comic Relief but actually funny but not meant t be.
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Wouldn't it be embarrassing if their cringe-worthy actions came back to haunt them when these new saviours arrive from Boston?
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt2/villarocko/flugburn.jpg)
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The problem with Liverpool fans is that they are mentally stuck in the 80's [including thier haircuts, clothes and attitude to work]
They still believe that they should be top of the league and winning everything!
Come on scousers, your a mid level team live with it
as for the video, to quote comic book guy....
"Worse film ever!"
Mark
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The problem with Liverpool fans is that they are mentally stuck in the 80's [including thier haircuts, clothes and attitude to work]
They still believe that they should be top of the league and winning everything!
Reminds me of a few fans of a team in B6 !!!
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The problem with Liverpool fans is that they are mentally stuck in the 80's [including thier haircuts, clothes and attitude to work]
I don't know, if you ignore the kind of useless cretins who crowd the internet - present company excepted - they are being quite sensible about all this.
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They really are quite pathetically self indulgant are'nt they?
Most obnoxious arrogant fans going.Prefer everyone to these lot, really hope they get relegated, but can't see it.
Hope the new owner does'nt build a new stradium, does'nt invest, and then see how many of the parasitical fans who latch themselves onto this club, remain loyal to them..........."Dave from Bristol, used to be a Liverpool Fan, now support one of my local teams"...hopefully.
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I've not really been following this one too closely, from the outside it seems that the owners have provided shit loads of money for players but other owners have provided a bit more and they are struggling to compete at the very top end of the table, just like they have been for the last twenty years.
What exactly is the dippers beef with the owners?
Sounds like us pre-Randy.
Sorry did I blink for 25 years and miss the bit where Doug provided all this cash for players?
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I've not really been following this one too closely, from the outside it seems that the owners have provided shit loads of money for players but other owners have provided a bit more and they are struggling to compete at the very top end of the table, just like they have been for the last twenty years.
What exactly is the dippers beef with the owners?
Sounds like us pre-Randy.
Sorry did I blink for 25 years and miss the bit where Doug provided all this cash for players?
"From the outside."
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So the americans are being replaced by americans hmm.
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I can't bring myself to watch the video but, putting aside our natural antipathy to Liverpool FC for a second, Hicks and Gillett are really shit owners so it's no surprise that people want them out.
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is the really old bloke with a cap one of the McGann actor brothers,
or is it just a really old bloke with a cap ?
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is the really old bloke with a cap one of the McGann actor brothers,
or is it just a really old bloke with a cap ?
I think it was the one who played a housekeeper in that crap sit-com years ago.
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So the americans are being replaced by americans hmm.
Because all american owners must be bad?
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is the really old bloke with a cap one of the McGann actor brothers,
or is it just a really old bloke with a cap ?
I think it was the one who played a housekeeper in that crap sit-com years ago.
if its him, he's not weared well has he
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is the really old bloke with a cap one of the McGann actor brothers,
or is it just a really old bloke with a cap ?
I think it was the one who played a housekeeper in that crap sit-com years ago.
if its him, he's not weared well has he
I bet he blames the Americans.
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is the really old bloke with a cap one of the McGann actor brothers,
or is it just a really old bloke with a cap ?
I think it was the one who played a housekeeper in that crap sit-com years ago.
HaHa The Upper Hand that's been bugging me for ages !!
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Scousers in self pity shock.
Fuck em - fuck all of em
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That video is unwatchable. "Its peoples lives". Course their team is more important to them than other teams are to their fans.
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John Gorman is exempt from any criticism due to his pivotal role in my upbringing watching Tiswas.
Other than that, does anyone think we'd be seeing this if they were in the top four of the table?
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Just watched it, and as a few people have said, or I've thought they said, it does seem a bit Children in Need/Red Nose Day-ish. At least Jimmy Tarbuck and Cilla Black didn't feature. Kept thinking Sinbad from Brookside would appear for some reason.
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I've not really been following this one too closely, from the outside it seems that the owners have provided shit loads of money for players but other owners have provided a bit more and they are struggling to compete at the very top end of the table, just like they have been for the last twenty years.
What exactly is the dippers beef with the owners?
Sounds like us pre-Randy.
Sorry did I blink for 25 years and miss the bit where Doug provided all this cash for players?
"From the outside."
Fair enough, an important distinction which I missed. Not sure if Gillett and Hicks have actually put in money such as the 18m spent on Johnson or if it is CL revenues ploughed back. I suspect it's the latter but can't be arsed to check. What I will say is that, much as I despise the man, I'm beginning to grudgingly appreciate that maybe Ellis is owed some credit for taking care not to sell Villa to someone who didn't give a flying fig about us, or football in general. Gillett and Hicks were/are clearly just a pair of speculators who thought they were on to a sure thing.
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Not particularly relevent, but I work with Martin Broughton's niece
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Not sure if its the right thread but can someone explain how the board can vote for the sale of the club and over rule the "owners" now G&H are taking the club to court as they want £600m?
Surely a board can't go against the owners?
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Not particularly relevent, but I work with Martin Broughton's niece
I don't know you Chico, but are you a pimp?
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Hilarious stuff. Long may they continue to be shit. Its only karma balancing itself out anyway.
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Its only karma balancing itself out
Can I mind yer karma, mister?
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Its only karma balancing itself out
Can I mind yer karma, mister?
I remember listening to 5Live on the way to a game years ago and this bloke rang in and told his experience of the little Dipper urchins who try and mind your car. When asked if he could mind it for him, he said its alright, I’ve got a Rottweiler in the back. The little Dipper replied “yer, but can it put out fires?”.
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Just watched it, and as a few people have said, or I've thought they said, it does seem a bit Children in Need/Red Nose Day-ish. At least Jimmy Tarbuck and Cilla Black didn't feature. Kept thinking Sinbad from Brookside would appear for some reason.
Watch it again and the jolly gap toothed scouser (who is actually a Yorkshireman) who has a quip and a jape for every honest Englishman, is in there.
Again i ask - G&H have been at the club for what 4 years? in that time they have spent
Torres - 25m
That greek fella - 20m
Ngog
Reina on a 6 year deal
countless other huge money transfers
so what is their scouse fans complaint actually about?????
Is it just that they are a bit shit now and it shows?
Is that really G&H fault - no where have i heard any condemnation of Benitez and his shit spending policy
fuck em - fuck em all with a big fuckity shit stick
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Built by Shanks
Ruined by Yanks
Supported by celebrity Wank(ers)
Speaking on helium.
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fuck em - fuck em all with a big fuckity shit stick
Nicely summed up.
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Again i ask - G&H have been at the club for what 4 years? in that time they have spent
Torres - 25m
That greek fella - 20m
Ngog
Reina on a 6 year deal
countless other huge money transfers
so what is their scouse fans complaint actually about?????
My thoughts too.
It's not G+H's fault that Torres is out of form, Gerrard isn't as good as he once was, Carragher is only good enough for their reserves and the rest are the epitome of average.
If Liverpool were in the CL and currently in the top 4 there wouldn't be as much as a peep against the current owners.
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no where have i heard any condemnation of Benitez and his shit spending policy
It's probably because his transfer record is actually quite good.
The reasons why Gillett and Hicks are hated are probably:
- The team is shit.
- The club spend all their money on servicing debt.
- They have turned the club into a laughing stock.
- They have made huge promises (including building a new stadium) which they haven't been able to keep.
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5. They know fuck all about football.
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Again i ask - G&H have been at the club for what 4 years? in that time they have spent
Torres - 25m
That greek fella - 20m
Ngog
Reina on a 6 year deal
countless other huge money transfers
so what is their scouse fans complaint actually about?????
My thoughts too.
It's not G+H's fault that Torres is out of form, Gerrard isn't as good as he once was, Carragher is only good enough for their reserves and the rest are the epitome of average.
If Liverpool were in the CL and currently in the top 4 there wouldn't be as much as a peep against the current owners.
Its time they faced facts, there not famous anymore, they ent what they were and wont be for a while! G & H have done wrong by putting the club in debt, its wrong that there in this situation and they shoulda been dealt with (points deduction) when they went in such large debt! But theyv given the club so much money and they deserve some credit for that. At the end of the day there only looking for a scapecoat cus there well, shit really. Not as good as they were and they realise there reputation isnt going to last them long
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;D
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Not sure if its the right thread but can someone explain how the board can vote for the sale of the club and over rule the "owners" now G&H are taking the club to court as they want £600m?
Surely a board can't go against the owners?
This had been bugging me for a few days too Phil. I spoke to my Liverpool supporting cousin whose job is accountancy. He explained that Hicks and Gillette ( as members of the five man LFC Board of Directors ) had been outvoted on the sale of the club by the other three board members. Its as simple as that really.
He also said that any legal action to stop the sale, by H and G, would be pointless as Company Law legislation would have to be adhered to.
H and G have been voted out.
I do not pretend to understand business but thats my simplistic understanding of the situation.
Lizz. Maybe Sinbad is an Everton fan ?
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Lizz. Maybe Sinbad is an Everton fan ?
Nah, He is definitely a redscouse as he was stopping in the same hotel as me in NY in 2002 and was excited about the new signing of Diouf who had a good world cup.
Maybe he was too big to get through the door into the studio or they didn't have a wide angle lens.
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Not sure if its the right thread but can someone explain how the board can vote for the sale of the club and over rule the "owners" now G&H are taking the club to court as they want £600m?
Surely a board can't go against the owners?
Hicks and Gillette borrowed the money to purchase Liverpool from the RBS and were due to pay it back by x date. That date came and went and as part of the discussions about the debt RBS gave them more time but insisted on having their guy as the chairman who, I think, further appointed the other two board members. Therefore the situation is really RBS voting to get their money back now rather than waiting for a deal that sees G & H making a profit as well.
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Again i ask - G&H have been at the club for what 4 years? in that time they have spent
Torres - 25m
That greek fella - 20m
Ngog
Reina on a 6 year deal
countless other huge money transfers
so what is their scouse fans complaint actually about?????
If Liverpool were in the CL and currently in the top 4 there wouldn't be as much as a peep against the current owners.
I said pretty much the same thing in the pub yesterday. I know they've been campainging against Hicks and Gillette for a while, but it's only since the Blackpool defeat that's it's really took off.
Benitez spent an awful lot of money on average crap really and that's something the scousers seem happy to forget. Who knows, maybe his very kind £96k donation to the Hillsborough Trust fund has gone some way to making him escape his portion of the blame.
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Again i ask - G&H have been at the club for what 4 years? in that time they have spent
Torres - 25m
That greek fella - 20m
Ngog
Reina on a 6 year deal
countless other huge money transfers
so what is their scouse fans complaint actually about?????
If Liverpool were in the CL and currently in the top 4 there wouldn't be as much as a peep against the current owners.
I said pretty much the same thing in the pub yesterday. I know they've been campainging against Hicks and Gillette for a while, but it's only since the Blackpool defeat that's it's really took off.
Benitez spent an awful lot of money on average crap really and that's something the scousers seem happy to forget. Who knows, maybe his very kind £96k donation to the Hillsborough Trust fund has gone some way to making him escape his portion of the blame.
If that is the case then the cynic in me think that was a good move to get himself out of any blame for their crisis
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this all just makes the Scousers sound a bit racist - Yank owners and a Dago manager buying all them ferriners = root of all evil....
Poor Stevie G is all unhinged by this talk of business and loans and takeovers - being that he's from the pure work-shy robbin and stealin bloodline that makes Liverpool great?
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