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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Oscar Arce on May 28, 2010, 09:52:56 AM
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Villa apparently 'begged' the bestest striker in the World ("much better than ex-Villa striker Peter Crouch say most independent observers"...quote C. Twattum) to not sign for the Sooooper Blooose and sign for us.
But he signed for them and the balance of power is shifting.
I'm cacking myself Twats.
Sorry for this long link, don't know how to do it shorter.
http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2010/05/28/birmingham-city-aston-villa-tried-to-snatch-nikola-zigic-from-blues-97319-26538539/?
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Since when could you imagine MON allowing a player to be spoken to without him being around.
Some flunkey trying to look good saying "please don't sign until you have spoken to Martin"
Can't see that somehow
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Irrespective of what Tattum says the most worrying thing is that we cannot do any business unless MON has the hands on approach
Do we think in the modern game all managers operate like this still?
Does this hinder us in the market MON having total control
I think we may know the answer
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Irrespective of what Tattum says the most worrying thing is that we cannot do any business unless MON has the hands on approach
Do we think in the modern game all managers operate like this still?
Does this hinder us in the market MON having total control
I think we may know the answer
All valid points, were this not made up tosh by his agent to big up the player, which the Meaning Evil latch onto to big up the Dogshite.
They almost had me aswell until "Yeah, and Man City wanted to sign me too!"
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Irrespective of what Tattum says the most worrying thing is that we cannot do any business unless MON has the hands on approach
Do we think in the modern game all managers operate like this still?
Does this hinder us in the market MON having total control
I think we may know the answer
Yep, Man City and Villa were interested in Zigic and he chose Blose....
Don't worry about what Colin Tattum says, I used to work with the C**t and he wouldnt know the truth if it bit him on the arse. He's your typical bitter jealous Bluenose, he can't even mention the words Aston Villa without seething.
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I overheard some pissed-up bellend in a pub toilet in town last weekend droning on about how the "balance of power in the city" was shifting. I was shitting myself for the rest of the night, worrying that they might manage to take a point off us next season.
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If we were after him, I'm sure MON would have returned from holiday to conduct talks. Its just a story from a f*ckwitted bluenose trying to make out that they beat us to the transfer.
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It it was true, then they're welcome to him and he'll fit in well because he must be the thickest twat in Europe to choose them, now, in May, with two clubs with European football next season interested, one of those the richest club in the world, and the other having just waved off Marlon Harewood with the best part of £5m in his pocket.
Obviously though, it's not true, and anyone with half a brain could see that. Which brings us back to Twattum.
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The so called 'balance of power' shift is soooooooooooooooo boring.
Not even worth getting concerned about.
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"claret and blue tinted glasses off for a minute..."
They have signed a quality young (mid 20s is young) england keeper and a very good international giant who was rumoured to be on our wanted list.
We have signed ....... no one?
I know there is a long way to go and Villa nearly alway wait until the last minute to buy anone but you can sort of see why they Meaning Evil are having their little wank fest at the moment.
Chokes me to say it, but 2 good signings for the shite.
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"claret and blue tinted glasses off for a minute..."
They have signed a quality young (mid 20s is young) england keeper and a very good international giant who was rumoured to be on our wanted list.
We have signed ....... no one?
I know there is a long way to go and Villa nearly alway wait until the last minute to buy anone but you can sort of see why they Meaning Evil are having their little wank fest at the moment.
Chokes me to say it, but 2 good signings for the shite.
I agree - two good signings for THEM.
Zigic would be an improvement on Heskey, but not dislodge either Gabby or Carew from the starting line up, which is what we need. Green isn't better then Big Brad, so pointless signings for us unless we were shifting Guzan out on loan, which wouldn't make sense as he's leaving Man Utd for first team football.
I can see their benefit to Blues, but can barely extrapolate any if we had signed them.
And that IS with Claret & Blue glasses off!
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Zigic will be a great signing. Foster is a good young keeper, but so is Guzan. So no loss there.
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Zigic will be a great signing. Foster is a good young keeper, but so is Guzan. So no loss there.
Is Guzan ?
So far McCleish's performance at Blues has been exceptional with next to no spend, really, he's achieved things there that had O'Neill done similar here, this site would be full of his praise.
Its far too early in the window, especially by O'Neill's standards to do too deep a comparison but so far McCleish and other managers have started the race well, while O'Neill amongst others doesn't appear to have settled into the blocks.
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Zigic will be a great signing. Foster is a good young keeper, but so is Guzan. So no loss there.
Is Guzan ?
Yeah.
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Personally I rate Foster over Guzan (and Friedel has 1 season left in him) and Zigic on par with Carew.
This is totally unproven and purely my opinion as Zigic has never played in England, although I think it would suit him, and neither Guzan or Foster have had an extended run last season.
I would have been fairly happy, not ecstatic, to have signed either.
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Zigic will be a great signing. Foster is a good young keeper, but so is Guzan. So no loss there.
Is Guzan ?
So far McCleish's performance at Blues has been exceptional with next to no spend, really, he's achieved things there that had O'Neill done similar here, this site would be full of his praise.
Its far too early in the window, especially by O'Neill's standards to do too deep a comparison but so far McCleish and other managers have started the race well, while O'Neill amongst others doesn't appear to have settled into the blocks.
Yeah, I wish O'Neill had got us relegated in his first season.
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We'll have to wait and see with Zigic, We already have two strikers in their thirties so we don't need another, certainly not before we've shifted one out.
The only worrying thing about this is when MON was rumoured to be interested in Marlon it took Wigans bid to spark him into action. I really hope we are after better than Zigic.
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Its far too early in the window, especially by O'Neill's standards to do too deep a comparison but so far McCleish and other managers have started the race well, while O'Neill amongst others doesn't appear to have settled into the blocks.
Geting players like Zigic and Green is easier than the market we will (hopefully) be shopping in. The players we are after will have multiple suitors and want to know their options rather than sign for the first club that offers them good wages and first team football.
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It's a good signing we cannot deny that.
I just wish there weren't so many gullible twats that rise to the bait of Tattum and the like. He is a good signing who may or may not have been begged at the last minute to speak to us. That is as far as it goes. You win some, you lose some, or you don't even speak to some.
What I would have been tempted to retort with (had I rose to the bait) is, expect a summons from the Spanish Civil Court sometime in the new year for non payment of transfer fees to Valencia. I hope the hairdresser has enough sofa's he can tip out.
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How can the signing of Zigic be percieved as a good signing?
Is it because he has an eastern European name, plays up front and therefore he must be good? What did he do last season that stood out in La Liga. Did it stand out any more than what Camerone Jerome did such as that 25 yard goal at Anfield?
I'm curios to know as all I've really heard about this player is that his club have been trying to get rid of him for two seasons now.
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How can the signing of Zigic be percieved as a good signing?
Is it because he has an eastern European name, plays up front and therefore he must be good? What did he do last season that stood out in La Liga. Did it stand out any more than what Camerone Jerome did such as that 25 yard goal at Anfield?
I'm curios to know as all I've really heard about this player is that his club have been trying to get rid of him for two seasons now.
Exactly what I was thinking. We don't know though he may prove to be a hit. Roque Santa Cruz never managed more than 5 in a season at Bayern so who knows?
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I see Tattum's doing his usual offical cheer leader role for Small Heath again. Nothing gets the Sty dwellers more excited than a player who turns down Villa to join that giant of a football club from Small Heath.
And apparently he turned Man City down as well. Ha!
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How can the signing of Zigic be percieved as a good signing?
Is it because he has an eastern European name, plays up front and therefore he must be good? What did he do last season that stood out in La Liga. Did it stand out any more than what Camerone Jerome did such as that 25 yard goal at Anfield?
I'm curios to know as all I've really heard about this player is that his club have been trying to get rid of him for two seasons now.
Exactly what I was thinking. We don't know though he may prove to be a hit. Roque Santa Cruz never managed more than 5 in a season at Bayern so who knows?
Slightly off topic, but Santa Cruz has basically had one good season in his whole career - we should steer well clear if Man City suggest him in part exchange for Jimmy!
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On the subject of foster being a decent signing, he may well be a good keeper but they are still weaker in that position than last season. It's like if Brad left and we signed mark schwarzer.
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Precisely. They have Foster, but is he as good as Hart? I'd say not. If Foster was as good as Fergie says, surely he'd have played a lot more. He said that to keep his price up and confidence high.
As for Guzan, I think he can be great with some experience. He's a superb shot stopper, and just needs to play some more games.
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But Hart was never theirs and they were damn lucky to get him on loan.
Foster is theirs and a good buy.
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I have a feeling that Zigic will turn out to be an expensive joke (hopefully any way). When I will start to get concerned is if Blose sign N'Zogbia. He is a VG player - the sort we should be looking towards.
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Didn't we gazump blose for Harewood so its not like we haven't got form. And Tattums only repeating what the agent's telling him
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We've been linked with that Zigic for the last 3 years, If we genuinely wanted him we'd have got him.
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heheheh. i'm gonna ask him on his live webchat
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I wonder if something got lost in translation here, I could understand if Zigic begged us to speak to him. Unlucky, he had to sign for blues instead.
He's an alright player from what i've seen of him, I don't think he'll be a flop but he's not going to score 20+ goals a season. Expect blues' long passes statistic to go through the roof next season.
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I think twattum posts on the small heath alliance boards as well:
http://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,194858
He's down there as 'tatts'.
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The issue is not the quality of signings made by the Blues, but the fact that they can't do anything without letting their petty jealousy rise to the surface.
If I was editor at the Mail, I'd test Tattums ability as a journalist by making him cover Villa for a season.
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If I was editor at the Mail, I'd test Tattums ability as a journalist by making him cover Villa for a season.
I think we'd have to put some paper down in the press box first.
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So because the agent says thats what happened it must be true then!!!!
What a pillock.
Does anyone really believe that had we been that keen on him, we wouldnt have made a firm bid by now. Its just typical bullshit lazy journalism with no foundation, if those idiots down the road want to believe it, then let them.
As for Foster, he was a promising keeper at Watford when on loan, but he had a lot of practice at shot stopping. If Fergie rated him then he wouldnt have let him go, the fact he rates Kusack higher says a lot tbh.
I seem to remember Zigic struggled badly at Valencia, and they made CL.
Although he did seem to score at Red Star, but didnt Bosco Balaban score a lot in his domestic league ;-)
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well with MON's reputation if its not true, he'll find himself getting sued. Tend to think it follows the manager's m.o. and all i can say is thank f*ck he was on holiday.
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When you have watched football for a long time, you learn never to predict with certainty how any player will do anywhere. Staggers me to think that anyone is certain that Foster and Zigic are going to be top players for them in such an unequivocal way...
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"claret and blue tinted glasses off for a minute..."
They have signed a quality young (mid 20s is young) england keeper and a very good international giant who was rumoured to be on our wanted list.
If they were any good they wouldn't have gone to where they have gone.
If Foster was that good, why sell him?
If this striker was wanted by Man City, why didn't they sign him? Not enough money?!?!?
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When you have watched football for a long time, you learn never to predict with certainty how any player will do anywhere. Staggers me to think that anyone is certain that Foster and Zigic are going to be top players for them in such an unequivocal way...
Exactly, for Ben Foster read Scott Carson. Young keeper, lauded at an early age who then struggles to impress when the pressure is on. He might turn out to be a good keeper in time but, as mentioned by Ryu, it's a step back from where they were last season.
Zigic again might be a great signing but the experiences of players such as Kezman and Rebrov show that it is by no means a certainty.
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Before meeting with Blose rep's agent tells Zigic
"We'll tell the daft bastards that Man City spoke to us before we left, this will confirm to them that your a good footballer & they'll offer £40k / week. Then we'll hit them with the news that Villa want to speak to you with the same offer. They'll shit themselves to get one over the Villa & will up the offer to £50k / week."
Blose rep's to agent after agreeing to pay £50k, "When you talk to the local media, make sure to tell them that you signed for us instead of the Villa".
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Didn't we gazump blose for Harewood so its not like we haven't got form. And Tattums only repeating what the agent's telling him
This may be true, he's still a complete c**t though.
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Let them have their moment, it means that much to them. Even if it isn't true.
They'll probably stick Twattum's article in the trophy cabinet, alongside a few dog-eared battered Sports Argus copies chronicling the few occasions they have beaten us in years gone by.
Joke outfit, but we wouldn't want it any other way.
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Its an alright signing. He had a good year last time around, but has been woeful for Valencia. Who knows how he’ll do at SHA with the service they provide.
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"Tatts" has posted on the Blues board.............
Morning all
No, no-one in the Villa camp has irked me recently.......
Just writing a story based accurately on what the player's agent says. He, indeed, is pretty loose, but that's often the way.
Think it has upset a few across the road...ho hum
Trouble is, not many people have a sense of humour nowadays and can't see the wood for the trees.
Anyway, I hope it's sunny wherever MON is
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"Tatts" has posted on the Blues board.............
Morning all
No, no-one in the Villa camp has irked me recently.......
Just writing a story based accurately on what the player's agent says. He, indeed, is pretty loose, but that's often the way.
Think it has upset a few across the road...ho hum
Trouble is, not many people have a sense of humour nowadays and can't see the wood for the trees.
Anyway, I hope it's sunny wherever MON is
And another thing, Nicola doesn't wear big headphones and is dead passionate. You should have seen what she did to the referee the night that Barca got awarded that penalty.
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My gosh can they do anything without mentioning us :)
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I can't believe that people give Twattum the air of publicity.
There are how many Villa rejects at the Sty?
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sent a email to Tattum and copied in his boss - what he has reported is utter bullshit and his jibes about villa on a forum are a form of insightment which someone in his position shouldnt do - he's meant to be impartial for gods sake
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sent a email to Tattum and copied in his boss - what he has reported is utter bullshit and his jibes about villa on a forum are a form of insightment which someone in his position shouldnt do - he's meant to be impartial for gods sake
Is he?
Does it really matter if he isn't? It's not like he's Secretary General of the UN. Who gives a toss how partial he is or isn't.
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i would hope tht a reporte at a birmingham paper would take an impartial view on birmingham clubs instead of further insighting the hatred that is already there and then backing up on a nose forum - its unprofessional
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I AM A FUCKING LIAR
(http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3673/tattum.jpg)
by Colon Twattum.
Our man at the Blose who used to be a Man Utd fan.
Ner ner ner ner ner!
It was revealed today by Milan Calorgas, agent of giant super tall mega skyscraper giant giraffe taller than crouch and the Burj Khalifa, Nikola "girls name" Zig-a-zig-ahhhh that his client refused to do business with anybody else, including hated local rivals Aston Villa boo hiss!
There is no actual logical reason for this and it makes no practical sense from any point of view but trust me, he had his heart set on the super 8 page pull out super blose and not even Man City could sway him.
"Its true" lied Calorgas, "Nikola (real name sharon) heard of the interest from Aston Villa and he put his fingers in his ears and started singing loudly. He insisted on getting Mr Big eck around immediately so he could not be tempted to sign for a big team playing European football for more money. We also heard of very serious interest from Man City who were trying to sell Adebayor to raise the cash to buy Sharon but we couldn't wait, we had to get this deal done and dusted three months before the season starts. We couldnt wait any longer."
When confronted by probable Vile-ist propaganda gangsters with evil agendas and the lies of Zionist North (East, West and South) Birmingham pigdogs who asked if this was just because the player, after being touted around for years, couldn't get a better deal than lowly Birmingham, Calorgas stated; "No, this is categorically untrue. Sharon would not listen to much, much bigger, more prestigious clubs paying more money and playing a higher standard of competition.
As soon as he heard 'our league' champions Blose were interested in him, it was an easy decision. Unless he killed himeslf of course or did something else for a living."
The capture of Zigic, who if you stand two double decker buses on top of eachother stands about 48% as tall as a double decker bus and can actually touch the bit above the doors near the ticket office, about as tall as a camel, will signal yet another power shift across the city. Alright, its a power shift that has never happened and never will, but nevertheless, this made up rubbish will make the posh neighbours sweat a bit. By signing players not good enough for Villa and indeed, players Villa have willingly punted to them for a song, Blose are making a big play for bragging rights in the second city. All they need to do now is actually do something and stop dreaming. But they've caught O'Neill with his pants down as he's on holiday in a place with no phones or communication and despite Villa sending a begging emmisary to meet with Zigic, he banished him from his presence and had him scourged for good measure.
Yeah, so there.
As Zigic, who played Lurch in the Addams family, had a photo opportunity with next years "who the fuck makes this shirt again?" Blose shirt, we asked about what treats lie in store for the Blose faithful (about 6,000). "I will slightly better than Crouch because I slightly taller, yes?".
It is thought that Big Eck, armed with a massive transfer Warchest, will wheel a barrow up and down the nation asking for clubs to bring out their unwanted players. Stand by for one whirlwind summer of transfer delight from the Midands 9th biggest club.
And dont miss tomorrows centre page pullout Mail exclusive as we give you a life size representation of one of Sharon Zigic's feet.
When contacted for further comment a spokesperson from Aston Villa laughed us out of the car park and a representaive of Man City's eyes glazed over as somebody had to remind him who Birmingham City and Nikola Zigic were.
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If it sells papers and gets you all talking about the Mail then he's achieved his aims hasn't he.
Think about it, all he's doing is writing something, which he will be under pressure to produce.
If 75% of it is bollocks then it doesn't matter.
As for what he does in his private life then that shouldn't be of concern to anyone else, just because he writes a sports section doesn't mean he shouldn't write a blog which is biased, or post on message boards, nor should he stop writing slanted stories.
Yes, he should be making an effort to give equal weight to things, but it's all about the news values, and let's face it - those of us in claret and blue know he's biased, and those in blue probably do too.
It'd be worse if he was hiding it and trying to write unbiasedly about it all but failing miserably.
*disclaimer - i'm a trainee journo, so am always going to defend him because one day that could be me, and i wouldn't be allowed on here.
On the topic of Zigic/Foster,
Zigic is supposedly good, and i think he might be a threat. I'd say he's probably an OK signing.
As for Foster I agree with the Carson comparison, he's had good games, but seems to flap and flounder when the pressure is really on.
I do think we should perhaps stop talking about zigic being a good signing for THEM, and being poor if it was for us. We hardly score goals for one, and also, they weren't that far behind us for a lot of the season (say it quietly in public though), so we aren't miles ahead of them - and it pains me to say that.
Also, if they spend and we just replace, we will find it tougher - although we are still better than them and should win.
McCleish has done a good job, which also pains me.
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he's hardly played for his own team in 3 years and is 30, so nah. still think MON waS interested though.
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he's hardly played for his own team in 3 years and is 30, so nah. still think MON waS interested though.
Because it gives you just one more thing to complain about?
Have we put the 'MON never even considers foreign players' drum away for now and the 'there's a foreign player who I don't like therefore he must have been interested' drum been brought out instead?
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Actually no it wasn't the thread I was after.
This refers to a specific article.
Mine refers to a campaign to reach a wider audience in the hope that buying and surfing of the paper concerned will reduce. Therefore a new thread was necessary in my view.
For some reason, the moderators have a problem with me launching a new thread. I would like to see my record of such posts in the last 12 months. I think you will find it is much lower than most 'regulars'.
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This nob of a reporter really should be reported to the press complaints commision and then signed up by ant n deks agents such is his grasp of comical sketches, what a cock !..typical riff raff knuckle dragging scum bucket tripe....The balance of power is definately shifting....again in the favour of the Villa !!!
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In response to the locked thread: why on earth is anyone buying the Evening Mail anyway? It's an awful newspaper!
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I'm surprised so many people are getting so annoyed by this
It is clearly the Mail trying desperately to drum up some interest in what is now a slightly pointless publication.
If Blues get excited about this, leave them to it.
We're far too big to be getting wound up by the likes of them.
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Today's Mail "Exclusive"
BOWYER : I TURNED DOWN REAL
The football World was reeling last night from the sensational news that midfield legend Lee Bowyer had turned down Real Madrid to stay with the Champions-elect what have the name of the city in their names and make all Villa fans jealous.
His agent, Adolf Kalashnikov, revealed exclusively to our man in the bogs Colin Tattum "Lee was approached by a number of clubs, including Aston Villa, Leeds Rhinos, Aston Villa (God I hate them) and Real Madrid. He has always had a soft spot for Real, especially when he noticed that their fans like to boo non-white players and were happy to employ fellow BNP supporter Jonathan Woodgate".
However it seems that Alex McLeish's ambitions for Theybreakyourearts City have swayed the combative midfield battler. With the pride of the Second City (yeah, second city - take that, Manchester!) finishing in the top half for the first time since 1913 last season it seems inevitable that Champions League football beckons within the next seventy-eighty years.
This is the latest blow to supposed "rivals" Aston Villa who are still reeling from their failure to sign a taller player than John Carew, their embarassing defeat in the 1963 League Cup Final and their inability to have the name of the city in their names.
Continued page 94...
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haha, Very good cd.
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Twattums missus has left him recently.
Probably because he's a twat !!
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They are so sad.
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I don't know if he'd come any good but I am a big fan of his and for this only I feel disappointed for this transfer.
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Ben Foster is not a great signing. He looks like a world-beater occasionally but he could probably release his own goalkeeping calamities DVD.
Let's wait and see of Zigic. It's best not to forget the hype that was given to Benitez and Figueroa before they made no impact in the Premiership. Plus, do they really need another goal-shy big man to partner their other goal-shy big man (ie Jerome) up front?
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In response to the locked thread: why on earth is anyone buying the Evening Mail anyway? It's an awful newspaper!
They don't. The circulation has dropped by somethinglike 50000+ in the last 7 or 8 years. I managed to get out whilst they could still afford redundancy........ thank God.
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Blues are such a smalltime club that some prat who writes what they want to read in the local newspaper gets cult ( I would replace that l) status!
6 fingered neanderthals.
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Today's Mail "Exclusive"
BOWYER : I TURNED DOWN REAL
The football World was reeling last night from the sensational news that midfield legend Lee Bowyer had turned down Real Madrid to stay with the Champions-elect what have the name of the city in their names and make all Villa fans jealous.
His agent, Adolf Kalashnikov, revealed exclusively to our man in the bogs Colin Tattum "Lee was approached by a number of clubs, including Aston Villa, Leeds Rhinos, Aston Villa (God I hate them) and Real Madrid. He has always had a soft spot for Real, especially when he noticed that their fans like to boo non-white players and were happy to employ fellow BNP supporter Jonathan Woodgate".
However it seems that Alex McLeish's ambitions for Theybreakyourearts City have swayed the combative midfield battler. With the pride of the Second City (yeah, second city - take that, Manchester!) finishing in the top half for the first time since 1913 last season it seems inevitable that Champions League football beckons within the next seventy-eighty years.
This is the latest blow to supposed "rivals" Aston Villa who are still reeling from their failure to sign a taller player than John Carew, their embarassing defeat in the 1963 League Cup Final and their inability to have the name of the city in their names.
Continued page 94...
Nice.
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Twattum is indeed a lying Twat.
From the OS:
No Villa Interest In Zigic
By Paul Brown
Comments reportedly made by Nikola Zigic's agent, Milan Calasan, are untrue.
Aston Villa did not make any "11th hour" attempt to contact the Serbian striker's representatives.
No contact was made by the club on the day that Zigic arrived in Birmingham - or at any time before or after.
Villa boss Martin O'Neill, responding to speculation about the then Valencia striker in 2008, went on record stating: "There's not a grain of truth in the story that we've put in an offer for the player and I don't know where it's coming from. I don't even know the player's agent."
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The player's agent sounds suspiciously non-British to me. I'm not sutprised Martin hasn't heard of him.
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Martin, Call Your Lawyer
Martin, Call Your Lawyer
Martin, Call Your Lawyer
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The player's agent sounds suspiciously non-British to me. I'm not sutprised Martin hasn't heard of him.
The agent was also done for illegal transfers in France a few years back. Search his name on the net and he's described as 'Controversial agent Milan Calasan'.
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The Birmingham Mail is a fucking disgrace. Firstly, for even thinking about printing this tripe and secondly, for employing Colin Tattum in any capacity.
I'd never tell anybody what to do with their money but it will be a cold day in Hell before I buy that "publication" again.
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As this bollocks was written by Twattum and became public domain (false) information, I'm sure MON can sue Twattum.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the writ was already in the post.
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Dont send him quality Sabbath songs, sue the egg headed bastard!
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Yep. Straight from the tramps keyboard.
BluSabre 19:41, Saturday 29 May 2010Quote
IPFic
I think the local media have always viewed Blues with disdain - perennial underachievers, aggressive scruffy working class Brummie bastards as fans, shocking Press facilities, tatty old shithole of a ground etc. etc. St Andrews is a pretty frightening place for the outsider to visit.
You have pretty much surmised the club there. What makes blues blues.
Except for maybe Gabby. I don't think Gabby finds it "pretty frightening" does he?
I'm sorry we are dealing with a seriously fucked up class of people here, there's not a more bitter bunch of bastards out there in the world of football.
We are their oxegen.
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After watching Serbia lose to New Zealand this morning (hurrah), I think The Bluenoses have signed a turkey.
Zigic was awful. Outmuscled by Winston Reid (who? I hear you ask) and regularly outjumped by the awesome Ryan Nelson.
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I was wondering the other day do the New Zealand football team do a Haka before kick off?
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I'm pretty sure they don't.
As for this "story", I couldn't give two flying fucks if it's true or not, just as I don't care what the Blues think of us.
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This is exactly the reaction he'd have wanted when he wrote that article.
As for Zigic the proof will be in how he does at the world cup and next season in the Premiership.
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Says it all that a signing can only have any merit for them if they can make out they've got one over on us.
We're that important to them.
I'd actually take it as a compliment.
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Mazrim, please hand your notice in at your web-design company and become a reporter immediately.
Thank you in advance.
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Ha Ha, I love the fact that blose fans belive the evening mail, rag of a fckin paper. I dont think ive brought it for about ten years now, for a birmingham paper thier villa reports are p**s poor and reporters 2nd rate at best.
as for blues fans, who gives a toss what they think, most of them are scum at best and twattum is by the sounds of things (never read a word he's written - and never will now) is just a dog turd blue noes whoes as bitter as the rest of them.
as for their signings, ben foster isnt as good as they think, had a few good games but not consistant, he will drop plenty of clangers next season. and as for this super forward!!!! did any one know who he was??? hes 30 and they paid how much? bet man city are fumming!!
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As for what he does in his private life then that shouldn't be of concern to anyone else, just because he writes a sports section doesn't mean he shouldn't write a blog which is biased, or post on message boards, nor should he stop writing slanted stories.
I'd just like to point out that I didn't link to the SHA board because I was annoyed by the story, I just found it interesting that a reporter for the Mail uses a public forum for the Blues. And considering that post is now in the public domain, it can be shot down in flames.
I don't care what Tattum writes, it's just a bit of a laugh innit?
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I was wondering the other day do the New Zealand football team do a Haka before kick off?
No they don't, never have done.
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I was wondering the other day do the New Zealand football team do a Haka before kick off?
No they don't, never have done.
There's no point is there. The New Zealand football team can look daft enough with a ball at their feet without resorting to some ancient ritual.
*only joking JD*
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Don't worry Bren_d I tend to agree.
Would like to see them do well in the World Cup though and get at least a point.
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Someone om the radio earlier this week was talking up the NZ manager and saying how good he was.
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Someone om the radio earlier this week was talking up the NZ manager and saying how good he was.
His wife?
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Someone om the radio earlier this week was talking up the NZ manager and saying how good he was.
Ricky Herbert is a great coach. He has done wonders, considering the players he's had to work with. He also manages the Wellington Phoenix who play in the Australian League.
I can see him getting a better job overseas in the not too distant future.
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I thought I would drag this up to confirm that after 13 years;
1. The Mail are still winding us up.
2. The balance of power is still shifting.
3. Demonstrates the problem we had with MO'N had by controlling everything. Although we know now of course he was on his way out.
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Someone om the radio earlier this week was talking up the NZ manager and saying how good he was.
Ricky Herbert is a great coach. He has done wonders, considering the players he's had to work with. He also manages the Wellington Phoenix who play in the Australian League.
I can see him getting a better job overseas in the not too distant future.
After the thread necromancy from Kippax, just looked up how this chap got on. He did work overseas, but for Papua New Guinea U23s and the Maldives!
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Someone om the radio earlier this week was talking up the NZ manager and saying how good he was.
Ricky Herbert is a great coach. He has done wonders, considering the players he's had to work with. He also manages the Wellington Phoenix who play in the Australian League.
I can see him getting a better job overseas in the not too distant future.
After the thread necromancy from Kippax, just looked up how this chap got on. He did work overseas, but for Papua New Guinea U23s and the Maldives!
Are they a step up or a step down then Celtic?
Definitely some blasts from the past in the names on this thread. And even bigger surprises on the ones who have been here without name changes.
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Who is the banned user from Brisbane?
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Troy Eccles(?). He started the Stuff on the Telly or the original film thread. Banned for some casual racism I think.
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Could be. I also remember a 'Robbo' from Aus somewhere and not sure if i've seen him post for a while.
What happened with Mazrim as well, he was on all the time at one point? I take it Gregnash got the huff in the end as well? I never minded him really despite the fact that he was rather negative.
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Mazrim went off in a huff and resides on other forums I think. Semper Fi.
Didn't Ryu go off in a huff when someone told him to 'go boil your head'
I thought Gnasher was banned.
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Was Zigic that big fucker that they gave a long contract to on biggish money that they were desperate to unload because he was breaking them and he wouldn't go, the good lad?
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He was although he did go into their hall of fame for a deflected goal against us in the QF of the League Cup at their place.
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He was although he did go into their hall of fame for a deflected goal against us in the QF of the League Cup at their place.
Didn't he also get the ball dropped onto his foot in the final as well. I suspect the one you mentioned gets all the plaudits though.
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He was although he did go into their hall of fame for a deflected goal against us in the QF of the League Cup at their place.
Didn't he also get the ball dropped onto his foot in the final as well. I suspect the one you mentioned gets all the plaudits though.
Martins scored the winner. I think Zigic scored the 1st.
Iirc Zigic was on something like 50k a week, a fair amount back when he signed, and not only did small heath not include any relegation clause in his contract, they did include pay rises each year. So that's why he was financially crippling them for 2 or 3 years.
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What a legend
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One of the funniest things I’ve seen on a football pitch was when we played them at ours.
At one point Barry Bannan ended up marking Zigic.
The ball was hoofed in their direction, BB jumped to try and head it, Zigic beat him without jumping.
Doesn’t seem so funny writing it, maybe you had to be there 😂
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One of the funniest things I’ve seen on a football pitch was when we played them at ours.
At one point Barry Bannan ended up marking Zigic.
The ball was hoofed in their direction, BB jumped to try and head it, Zigic beat him without jumping.
Doesn’t seem so funny writing it, maybe you had to be there 😂
Possibly the only time us and them laughed together.
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One of the funniest things I’ve seen on a football pitch was when we played them at ours.
At one point Barry Bannan ended up marking Zigic.
The ball was hoofed in their direction, BB jumped to try and head it, Zigic beat him without jumping.
Doesn’t seem so funny writing it, maybe you had to be there 😂
I saw the same thing with Bannan in a reserve game against Reading & he kept trying to compete with Andre Bikey. It was hilarious. But you had to give it to Bannan, he is a competitor...
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Mazrim went off in a huff and resides on other forums I think. Semper Fi.
Didn't Ryu go off in a huff when someone told him to 'go boil your head'
I thought Gnasher was banned.
I think Ryu eventually pissed everyone off with his ain't I great Juampi worship. Gnasher got banned for being a twat.
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As this was weirdly revived because the Meaning Evil (Birmingham Evil online) being asshats and not just Twattum, I noticed they produced a story on how much richer Manure potential new owners are compared to ours. Great supporting of the local teams again.
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No prizes for guessing how they will spin this.
https://twitter.com/birmingham_live/status/1668902246711537664?t=0M3JP50bnJ7gzAvicvp97Q&s=19
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No prizes for guessing how they will spin this.
https://twitter.com/birmingham_live/status/1668902246711537664?t=0M3JP50bnJ7gzAvicvp97Q&s=19
Villa did not sell the tickets directly they were provided by a ticket agency
As was most of the security etc
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Dunno what shes complaining about, thats far more than I'd want to see.
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Dan Bardell is leaving The Athletic podcast thing. He's still decent value on Sky I think. Articulate, circumspect and likeable. Hope he keeps getting national opportunities.
Laura Woods announced her departure from Talksport today. Nice words to/from Ally McCoist and Gabby who share the breakfast show with her.
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Dunno what shes complaining about, thats far more than I'd want to see.
As a spectacle it was really great show. Far to many drunk and overly emotional ladies though. And if anyone is married or in a serious relationship will kn9w once they are pissed there really is no rational discussion with them. Much better behaviour though compared opissed up football blokes
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Dan Bardell is leaving The Athletic podcast thing. He's still decent value on Sky I think. Articulate, circumspect and likeable. Hope he keeps getting national opportunities.
Laura Woods announced her departure from Talksport today. Nice words to/from Ally McCoist and Gabby who share the breakfast show with her.
That doesn’t mean (shudders) Alan Brazil is making a comeback does it?
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Who is Dan Bardell?
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Blogger/podcaster/YouTuber Villa fan occasionally does sky interviews about the latest going’s on. Quite a good listen.
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Blogger/podcaster/YouTuber Villa fan occasionally does sky interviews about the latest going’s on. Quite a good listen.
Ah! Cheers!
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Who is Dan Bardell?
Guy on the right. Not sure what happened to Matt Lynch.
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Who is Dan Bardell?
Guy on the right. Not sure what happened to Matt Lynch.
Think Matt Lynch works for Matchroom (so snooker and golf promotion) now.
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Who is Dan Bardell?
I see what you're doing BE
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Too clever for me to understand.-
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Who is Dan Bardell?
I see what you're doing BE
It was topic-adjacent I felt, but not "strong" enough to warrant a new thread and I stand by that.
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Who is Dan Bardell?
I see what you're doing BE
It was topic-adjacent I felt, but not "strong" enough to warrant a new thread and I stand by that.
Nah it's not that Eamon. BE has peskily been asking who Dan Bardell is every time his name comes up on the forum, and chuckling as we tell him for the 6th time. The little scamp!
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It's taken people over two years to notice! :-D
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Or that most tend to ignore your posts.
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Or that most tend to ignore your posts.
Ooooooooooh! Oooooooouch! Miaooow!
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It's taken people over two years to notice! :-D
Now I'm wondering how many other little games you've got going on
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Or that most tend to ignore your posts.
Ooooooooooh! Oooooooouch! Miaooow!
:-) Now that is a smiley emoji.
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Could be. I also remember a 'Robbo' from Aus somewhere and not sure if i've seen him post for a while.
What happened with Mazrim as well, he was on all the time at one point? I take it Gregnash got the huff in the end as well? I never minded him really despite the fact that he was rather negative.
Could be. I also remember a 'Robbo' from Aus somewhere and not sure if i've seen him post for a while.
What happened with Mazrim as well, he was on all the time at one point? I take it Gregnash got the huff in the end as well? I never minded him really despite the fact that he was rather negative.
Mazrim went off in a huff and resides on other forums I think. Semper Fi.
Didn't Ryu go off in a huff when someone told him to 'go boil your head'
I thought Gnasher was banned.
Could be. I also remember a 'Robbo' from Aus somewhere and not sure if i've seen him post for a while.
What happened with Mazrim as well, he was on all the time at one point? I take it Gregnash got the huff in the end as well? I never minded him really despite the fact that he was rather negative.
You called?
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I was more active around the Mazrim, Greg and Ryu days - I must have been slacking at work.
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Crap I joined 18 years ago - whoosh
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Could be. I also remember a 'Robbo' from Aus somewhere and not sure if i've seen him post for a while.
What happened with Mazrim as well, he was on all the time at one point? I take it Gregnash got the huff in the end as well? I never minded him really despite the fact that he was rather negative.
Could be. I also remember a 'Robbo' from Aus somewhere and not sure if i've seen him post for a while.
What happened with Mazrim as well, he was on all the time at one point? I take it Gregnash got the huff in the end as well? I never minded him really despite the fact that he was rather negative.
Mazrim went off in a huff and resides on other forums I think. Semper Fi.
Didn't Ryu go off in a huff when someone told him to 'go boil your head'
I thought Gnasher was banned.
Could be. I also remember a 'Robbo' from Aus somewhere and not sure if i've seen him post for a while.
What happened with Mazrim as well, he was on all the time at one point? I take it Gregnash got the huff in the end as well? I never minded him really despite the fact that he was rather negative.
You called?
How are you Robbo? Long time since our chats on the 'Worried Thread' while everyone else was asleep.
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No prizes for guessing how they will spin this.
https://twitter.com/birmingham_live/status/1668902246711537664?t=0M3JP50bnJ7gzAvicvp97Q&s=19
Villa did not sell the tickets directly they were provided by a ticket agency
As was most of the security etc
Still no excuse. VP are ultimately responsible.
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It's taken people over two years to notice! :-D
Who is Bad English?
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Could be. I also remember a 'Robbo' from Aus somewhere and not sure if i've seen him post for a while.
What happened with Mazrim as well, he was on all the time at one point? I take it Gregnash got the huff in the end as well? I never minded him really despite the fact that he was rather negative.
Could be. I also remember a 'Robbo' from Aus somewhere and not sure if i've seen him post for a while.
What happened with Mazrim as well, he was on all the time at one point? I take it Gregnash got the huff in the end as well? I never minded him really despite the fact that he was rather negative.
Mazrim went off in a huff and resides on other forums I think. Semper Fi.
Didn't Ryu go off in a huff when someone told him to 'go boil your head'
I thought Gnasher was banned.
Could be. I also remember a 'Robbo' from Aus somewhere and not sure if i've seen him post for a while.
What happened with Mazrim as well, he was on all the time at one point? I take it Gregnash got the huff in the end as well? I never minded him really despite the fact that he was rather negative.
You called?
How are you Robbo? Long time since our chats on the 'Worried Thread' while everyone else was asleep.
Better than I deserve JD, our conversations with Pete were a great distraction from business, sold up and retired now, there was another Robbo I recall who lived in an inferior state to Melbourne. obviously ran out of steam.
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Could be. I also remember a 'Robbo' from Aus somewhere and not sure if i've seen him post for a while.
What happened with Mazrim as well, he was on all the time at one point? I take it Gregnash got the huff in the end as well? I never minded him really despite the fact that he was rather negative.
Could be. I also remember a 'Robbo' from Aus somewhere and not sure if i've seen him post for a while.
What happened with Mazrim as well, he was on all the time at one point? I take it Gregnash got the huff in the end as well? I never minded him really despite the fact that he was rather negative.
Mazrim went off in a huff and resides on other forums I think. Semper Fi.
Didn't Ryu go off in a huff when someone told him to 'go boil your head'
I thought Gnasher was banned.
Could be. I also remember a 'Robbo' from Aus somewhere and not sure if i've seen him post for a while.
What happened with Mazrim as well, he was on all the time at one point? I take it Gregnash got the huff in the end as well? I never minded him really despite the fact that he was rather negative.
You called?
How are you Robbo? Long time since our chats on the 'Worried Thread' while everyone else was asleep.
And I was getting in from the pub/club, and frantically ringing moderators in the morning trying not to get banned.