Quote from: richard moore on August 28, 2010, 11:04:23 AMQuote from: TopDeck113 on August 28, 2010, 10:57:25 AMQuote from: Ads on August 28, 2010, 04:11:58 AMSaunders got it without being a Villa man...This whole "understands the special nature of Aston Villa" argument is nonsense if the examples given include the man who walked out of the club a couple of months before we were due to play a European Cup quarter final and pitched up on the other side of the city a week later. All managers are self-serving - that's a direct consequence of being in a career where the likely tenure is usually no more than a couple of seasons. He simply doesn't have the time to immerse himself in the history and tradition. In the vast majority of cases, there is no point in the emotional investment. All we can ask is that whoever is in the manager's seat does their best by the club during his time with us. They then in time become part of the tradition by dint of what they achieve. If they do that, where they go next - be it a local rival, the England job or retirement - is irrelevant. Exactly, spot on. And quite what is the special nature of Aston Villa when we deride other clubs for thinking too that they are special like Newcastle, Spurs and Liverpool....The greatest manager in our post war history didnt get Aston Villa? Ok. Clearly I was talking nonsense. Only a mentalist would need to ask what was special about Aston Villa.
Quote from: TopDeck113 on August 28, 2010, 10:57:25 AMQuote from: Ads on August 28, 2010, 04:11:58 AMSaunders got it without being a Villa man...This whole "understands the special nature of Aston Villa" argument is nonsense if the examples given include the man who walked out of the club a couple of months before we were due to play a European Cup quarter final and pitched up on the other side of the city a week later. All managers are self-serving - that's a direct consequence of being in a career where the likely tenure is usually no more than a couple of seasons. He simply doesn't have the time to immerse himself in the history and tradition. In the vast majority of cases, there is no point in the emotional investment. All we can ask is that whoever is in the manager's seat does their best by the club during his time with us. They then in time become part of the tradition by dint of what they achieve. If they do that, where they go next - be it a local rival, the England job or retirement - is irrelevant. Exactly, spot on. And quite what is the special nature of Aston Villa when we deride other clubs for thinking too that they are special like Newcastle, Spurs and Liverpool....
Quote from: Ads on August 28, 2010, 04:11:58 AMSaunders got it without being a Villa man...This whole "understands the special nature of Aston Villa" argument is nonsense if the examples given include the man who walked out of the club a couple of months before we were due to play a European Cup quarter final and pitched up on the other side of the city a week later. All managers are self-serving - that's a direct consequence of being in a career where the likely tenure is usually no more than a couple of seasons. He simply doesn't have the time to immerse himself in the history and tradition. In the vast majority of cases, there is no point in the emotional investment. All we can ask is that whoever is in the manager's seat does their best by the club during his time with us. They then in time become part of the tradition by dint of what they achieve. If they do that, where they go next - be it a local rival, the England job or retirement - is irrelevant.
Saunders got it without being a Villa man...
Quote from: Ads on August 28, 2010, 03:38:30 PMQuote from: richard moore on August 28, 2010, 11:04:23 AMQuote from: TopDeck113 on August 28, 2010, 10:57:25 AMQuote from: Ads on August 28, 2010, 04:11:58 AMSaunders got it without being a Villa man...This whole "understands the special nature of Aston Villa" argument is nonsense if the examples given include the man who walked out of the club a couple of months before we were due to play a European Cup quarter final and pitched up on the other side of the city a week later. All managers are self-serving - that's a direct consequence of being in a career where the likely tenure is usually no more than a couple of seasons. He simply doesn't have the time to immerse himself in the history and tradition. In the vast majority of cases, there is no point in the emotional investment. All we can ask is that whoever is in the manager's seat does their best by the club during his time with us. They then in time become part of the tradition by dint of what they achieve. If they do that, where they go next - be it a local rival, the England job or retirement - is irrelevant. Exactly, spot on. And quite what is the special nature of Aston Villa when we deride other clubs for thinking too that they are special like Newcastle, Spurs and Liverpool....The greatest manager in our post war history didnt get Aston Villa? Ok. Clearly I was talking nonsense. Only a mentalist would need to ask what was special about Aston Villa. Could you describe what a mentalist is to me, it's not a term I am familiar with? If you are inferring I have a mental condition, then would you care to retract that accusation as it is both offensive and insulting to those who do indeed suffer in such a way. Perhaps you could try to couch your responses in a slightly more diplomatic way in future. Call it a learning point...
Why don't we go and get Moyes? If the ambition is still there I'm sure we could tempt him at the end of the season as he's certainly not going to get the Man Utd job without doing something better than he is currently.Even if it means getting a Sven for the season.
I'm coming round to Koeman.Even if he did play Arizmendi at right back.