Alejandro Garnacho - Welcome to Aston Villa - Loan

[Pete3206]

I must have missed where Sancho was OK as I thought he was mostly, shite. Bouncing around as a free agent now, with a middling club in Qatar the only ones to take interest.

[brontebilly]

He should certainly be well motivated. If he doesn't make it here, the tabloids will deem him to have failed at three Prem clubs which could damage his future prospects.

Like others on here, I'd back SUE to sort him out.

Yep, that's got to be a motivating factor, for sure.  Look at Sancho (who did perfectly okay for us last year, not brilliant, not terrible, and he contributed to a trophy win). He's now available on a free transfer and looks like he might be going to Saudi as no one in a competitive league is willing to take a punt on him after 3 premier league clubs decided they didn't want him.  Clearly very talented, but talent alone often isn't enough.

If Sancho truly reached the mark of perfectly okay last season then why does no team in a competitive league want him?

[JUAN PABLO]

Ryan Air can fook off too , cant stand the owner and maybe just look after your planes first and keep the fcuk off doing  horrible posts about a young lad , these be kind people can be abusive bullying dicks ..

and Gabby you are an absolute twat too ..

good luck Nancho.

Isn’t that his gran?

yes   she makes the best Alfajores and loves him.

[LeeB]

He was much better than Guessand, so there is a scale of sorts. He was ok but underwhelming.

[eamonn]

Yeah, "perfectly ok" is being way too nice to J-Dawg. He underwhelmed most of the time.

[Smithy]

He should certainly be well motivated. If he doesn't make it here, the tabloids will deem him to have failed at three Prem clubs which could damage his future prospects.

Like others on here, I'd back SUE to sort him out.

Yep, that's got to be a motivating factor, for sure.  Look at Sancho (who did perfectly okay for us last year, not brilliant, not terrible, and he contributed to a trophy win). He's now available on a free transfer and looks like he might be going to Saudi as no one in a competitive league is willing to take a punt on him after 3 premier league clubs decided they didn't want him.  Clearly very talented, but talent alone often isn't enough.

If Sancho truly reached the mark of perfectly okay last season then why does no team in a competitive league want him?

Because "okay" isn't good enough for the sort of money he now expects.  He wants "very good" money, for "okay-ish" performances.  We paid it for a season, but no longer than that, and certainly not for a five-year deal he's likely to want.

People seem to think I'm defending him, I'm not.  He wasn't good enough last season, but he was "okay", okay enough such that Unai played him 30+ times and he was part of the team that finished 4th and won a trophy.  That doesn't happen if he was crap.  Underwhelming? Absolutely. Frustrating at times? Definitely. Crap? No.

I expected more, and I had no desire to see the club sign him permanently this summer, but I look back at his time with us as him coming in and doing an okay job most of the time, and helping the team to its best season in a generation.

If we'd signed him permanently last season, I'd certainly be one of those suggesting we need to move him on as it's not worked out as well as we'd hoped - but as it was just a loan, I shrug my shoulders and say "fair enough, he did okay" and send him back with my best wishes.

[PeterWithesShin]

He wasn't ok, he was mostly crap. It was just that when he peaked at "okay" in the odd game it was such an improvement from the usual crapness we got excited. We'd have been better off just playing Jimbo all season.

[Smithy]

He wasn't ok, he was mostly crap. It was just that when he peaked at "okay" in the odd game it was such an improvement from the usual crapness we got excited. We'd have been better off just playing Jimbo all season.

Fair enough, we'll just have to agree to disagree. I personally don't think any team finishes where we did, and wins what we did, if it's having to carry a 'crap' player all season - but each to their own :-)

[paul_e]

I'm with Smithy, he wasn't worth the wages, which is why he's struggling to get a new club, but he generally came on late in games and did the job he was sent on to do which helped us see the game out, he was reasonably tidy in possession, helped us keep control of tight games and got a few useful assists. We want much more, which is why he wasn't offered a contract, but he did play his part.

I do, however, also agree with PWS that we probably could've got similar from JJA and would have saved a lot of money and had a player with the extra experience that we could benefit from going forward.

[brontebilly]

He should certainly be well motivated. If he doesn't make it here, the tabloids will deem him to have failed at three Prem clubs which could damage his future prospects.

Like others on here, I'd back SUE to sort him out.

Yep, that's got to be a motivating factor, for sure.  Look at Sancho (who did perfectly okay for us last year, not brilliant, not terrible, and he contributed to a trophy win). He's now available on a free transfer and looks like he might be going to Saudi as no one in a competitive league is willing to take a punt on him after 3 premier league clubs decided they didn't want him.  Clearly very talented, but talent alone often isn't enough.

If Sancho truly reached the mark of perfectly okay last season then why does no team in a competitive league want him?

Because "okay" isn't good enough for the sort of money he now expects.  He wants "very good" money, for "okay-ish" performances.  We paid it for a season, but no longer than that, and certainly not for a five-year deal he's likely to want.

People seem to think I'm defending him, I'm not.  He wasn't good enough last season, but he was "okay", okay enough such that Unai played him 30+ times and he was part of the team that finished 4th and won a trophy.  That doesn't happen if he was crap.  Underwhelming? Absolutely. Frustrating at times? Definitely. Crap? No.

I expected more, and I had no desire to see the club sign him permanently this summer, but I look back at his time with us as him coming in and doing an okay job most of the time, and helping the team to its best season in a generation.

If we'd signed him permanently last season, I'd certainly be one of those suggesting we need to move him on as it's not worked out as well as we'd hoped - but as it was just a loan, I shrug my shoulders and say "fair enough, he did okay" and send him back with my best wishes.

Ok I'll bite, Sancho was absolutely crap. "Just a loan" what did his deal cost us on wages + loan fee? He was given every chance by Emery, far too many in my view, as the likes of Guessand were even worse.