UEFA getting the big stick out

[pauliewalnuts]

They are just fuckwitted racist scumbags.

Unfortunately, so are a very great number of other people these days.

[Coop]

"Lest we forget" indeed!

My mum served in the WAAF during WW2, and sold poppies for many years. These gutless scum are a big, stinking shit stain on her memory, and that of everyone who lost their lives fighting against the very poison that they espouse.

I wouldn't trust that any of that lot to fight beside me in the trenches 😡

I wouldn't trust them....period.

I wonder how loud they cheered when immigrants Youri Tielemans, Emi Buendia, and the descendant of immigrants Morgan Rogers scored for the team they claim to support?

The team that was largely founded and made great by economic migrants.

Absolutely, Dave.

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

I find the use of remeberance imagery extraordinarily offensive, from white vans to trainers and "poppy Christmas" displays to football flags.

Are you offended if someone wears a poppy?

[Rory]

I find the use of remeberance imagery extraordinarily offensive, from white vans to trainers and "poppy Christmas" displays to football flags.

Are you offended if someone wears a poppy?

I personally find poppy-wearing an intriguing guessing game.

Is the person wearing the poppy doing so in the spirit it was intended; as a mark of respect for the fallen, regret that such an event ever took place and a reminder that such slaughter is tragic on both sides?

Or are they the kind of twat who thinks it's a symbol of patriotic pride and an excuse to sing Ten German Bombers?

I used to wear a white poppy, until somebody I knew who also wore a white poppy was beaten up because of it.

These days I don't wear any kind of poppy and just say I had one but it fell off.

[Clampy]

I was on a coach on the way to an away game once and at our pub stop, a chap got back on the coach and gave out poppies to everyone.

[Nev]

I find the use of remeberance imagery extraordinarily offensive, from white vans to trainers and "poppy Christmas" displays to football flags.

Are you offended if someone wears a poppy?

What Rory said.

[German James]

I find the use of remeberance imagery extraordinarily offensive, from white vans to trainers and "poppy Christmas" displays to football flags.

Are you offended if someone wears a poppy?

What Rory said.

What Rory and Nev said.

[DC1874]

I find the 365 day a year remembrance culture that has emerged in the last decade or so particularly mawkish - it's the use of the silhouted WW1 Tommy that's  most troubling - almost like a celebration rather than, when I grew up WW1 was seen as nothing but a huge negative i.e. massive waste of life for all parties, which started out of relatively nothing but was exacerbated by the ruling dynasties of the Europe's elite. Most volunteered out of patriotic hubris with no information being available about the true horrors of modern warfare. WW2 I have a completely different view on as Fascism and Japanese Imperialism needed to be stopped.

[TopDeck113]

The misappropriation of the poppy should righty called out, but I do think in a small part the Royal British Legion needs to look at itself and how in recent years it has attempted to increasingly monetise things with all manner of poppy merch.  Not that many years ago, they started selling poppies at the start of November and after Remembrance Sunday they weren't seen for another twelve months.  Now, they're visible all year round.

[sid1964]

That element is there in ours and other clubs support unfortunately.

Somewhere between 10-15% of the country are racist c***s (a figure that's probably the lowest it's ever been, but it's still millions of people). Stands to reason that 10-15% of our support would be too.
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Did they send out an email asking if you were racist? Where do you get those % from, have you access to those records?

[chrisw1]

As much as I hate the far right flag shaggers (which is an awful lot), and I know the whole sentiment behind the flag comes from a racist standpoint, I still feel UEFA is jumping through some hoops to fine us here.

Italian fans routinely stab other fans and racist chanting and monkey calls are still pretty commonplace.

Yet somehow, after almost exemplary fan behaviour throughout the final week,  we get done for a pretty innocuous flag that nobody really saw?