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Offline Monty

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Re: England national team
« Reply #225 on: Today at 12:27:43 PM »
and we're never going to agree on it so no point reopening the argument. Better to leave it so CD doesn't have to find new ways to insult anyone who doesn't worship Southgate as a genius.

In fairness, Southgate's incredible subsequent run in management and coaching does I would say speak for itself.

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Re: England national team
« Reply #226 on: Today at 12:33:52 PM »
Ron Saunders did nothing after leaving Villa, doesn't mean he wasn't a brilliant Villa manager. In the same way that Southgate was quite obviously a brilliant England manager.

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Re: England national team
« Reply #227 on: Today at 12:35:08 PM »
Alright then.

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Re: England national team
« Reply #228 on: Today at 06:12:25 PM »
5 years ago today, England 2-0 Germany with Jack involved in both goals and the country in love with him.

One of the best England moments in my lifetime.

Nobody saw that coming.

Really? Player for player England were surely miles ahead on paper.

One of those things that has been twisted out of proportion from what had happened since.

Look at the two teams and put a strongest eleven together (bearing in mind everyone is five years younger, for better or worse).

Germany take Neuer, Rudiger, Kimmich, probably both of Goretzka and Kroos.

England take Kane, Stones, Walker and Sterling. Maybe a very young, West Ham Rice over one of the above?

Either way, it's pretty even fare and it was an impressive result against a perfectly decent team.

Agree 100%.

Their reputation was damaged retrospectively once we beat them.

It's totally revisionist.

I remember very well once it was confirmed we had Germany, almost everyone thought it was nailed on that we were going out.

Then we beat them and it was "all they're shit anyway".

That's how it works with England.

I can't remember them ever being given the credit they're due in my lifetime. Even making those two finals the excuses of home advantage and "haven't played well" were being thrown around.

It's ridiculous.

 


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