Other Games - 2026 FIFA Men’s World Cup Edition (+ warm-up matches): Villa-watch

[Dogtanian]

You should take Sky Australia to task for lackadaisical use of the language!

[Hopadop]

I know right? The drongos.

[UK Redsox]

Nearly everyone is very reliant on one player though. France Mbappe, Spain Yamal, England Kane, Argentina Messi, Norway Haaland, Portugal (SR7 snigger).

France should cope better than anyone but if those star players don't perform the odds of winning drop a lot. France clearly have the best squad at the tourament but the best sides often don't win cups.

We've the potential for two stonkingly interesting semi-finals.

Yep, Argentina v Norway should be a cracker. Can't wait for Haaland v Messi

[Somniloquism]

The Public Order Act requires the use or threat of violence such that a notional person of reasonable firmness would be in fear for their safety.

Thereafter it's mostly about numbers: 12 or more for Riot; 3 for Violent Disorder; otherwise Affray.

Riot also needs a 'Common Purpose'.

Anyone charged will likely be for Violent Disorder. Easier to prove.

I was on a jury 20 odd years ago for when trouble during the Millwall/Brum playoffs. They arrested someone a few years later (apparently he was known to the Police Spotters but had moved house so wasn't found straight away). Anyway the only video evidence they had was him shouting at the police whilst on his own and another clip with loads others they thought was him but defence expert witness stated the video wasn'r enough on the face and the coat looked different and the prosecution didn't really counter it. 

So Riot was out as no definite proof and I think affray was the thing at the end.

[UK Redsox]

The Public Order Act requires the use or threat of violence such that a notional person of reasonable firmness would be in fear for their safety.

Thereafter it's mostly about numbers: 12 or more for Riot; 3 for Violent Disorder; otherwise Affray.

Riot also needs a 'Common Purpose'.

Anyone charged will likely be for Violent Disorder. Easier to prove.

A relative of mine was literally* 'read the Riot Act', failed to comply and was transported to Australia.


* and I mean literally in the sense of literally, rather than the now more common, literally in the sense of figuratively

[Hopadop]

The Public Order Act requires the use or threat of violence such that a notional person of reasonable firmness would be in fear for their safety.

Thereafter it's mostly about numbers: 12 or more for Riot; 3 for Violent Disorder; otherwise Affray.

Riot also needs a 'Common Purpose'.

Anyone charged will likely be for Violent Disorder. Easier to prove.

A relative of mine was literally* 'read the Riot Act', failed to comply and was transported to Australia.


* and I mean literally in the sense of literally, rather than the now more common, literally in the sense of figuratively

That would be the 1714 Act.  I remember it well.* And as you say it involved a literal reading to those intent on going about their rioty business.

Interestingly, the Public Order Act retained the requirement of 12 or more.  I don't know the reason for that number, then or now, but i suppose it just felt substantial enough to elevate it above the more mundane Saturday night Violent Disorder.

*only repealed in 1973 so it had a good innings.

[Dogtanian]

I think it speaks to the civility of the people of the past, where raging rioters had the decency to sit and listen good-naturedly to the reading of the act, before deciding whether or not to continue with the carnage.

[brontebilly]

Have a funny feeling the French are going out tonight.

Think this will be their toughest game of the WC. Morocco are a very good team. Paraguay didn't attempt to play, Morocco will.

So disappointing, Morocco didn't even attempt to play. Stage fright or just completely outclassed I'm not sure. A 2-0 hammering.

[Hopadop]

The Public Order Act requires the use or threat of violence such that a notional person of reasonable firmness would be in fear for their safety.

Thereafter it's mostly about numbers: 12 or more for Riot; 3 for Violent Disorder; otherwise Affray.

Riot also needs a 'Common Purpose'.

Anyone charged will likely be for Violent Disorder. Easier to prove.

I was on a jury 20 odd years ago for when trouble during the Millwall/Brum playoffs. They arrested someone a few years later (apparently he was known to the Police Spotters but had moved house so wasn't found straight away). Anyway the only video evidence they had was him shouting at the police whilst on his own and another clip with loads others they thought was him but defence expert witness stated the video wasn'r enough on the face and the coat looked different and the prosecution didn't really counter it. 

So Riot was out as no definite proof and I think affray was the thing at the end.

Yep, just a question of the numbers.  If they couldn't prove he was together with 12 or more (riot) or 3 or more (violent disorder), you're left with an affray, assuming all else proved.  Maximum sentences of 10, 5 and 3 years respectively.

Who knew the World Cup could be so exciting!?

[olaftab]

Absolute idiots. I honestly don’t know what possesses these people.

I'd suggest shit cocaine, but I don't want to be accused of being baited by Bogans for having the temeriry of being appalled that dickheads are rioting.

I think Dogtanian was referring to Sky News Australia.

[Dogtanian]

I suspect a lot of people in the media partake, fine or shit.

[Meanwood Villa]

The Public Order Act requires the use or threat of violence such that a notional person of reasonable firmness would be in fear for their safety.

Thereafter it's mostly about numbers: 12 or more for Riot; 3 for Violent Disorder; otherwise Affray.

Riot also needs a 'Common Purpose'.

Anyone charged will likely be for Violent Disorder. Easier to prove.

Define reasonable firmness.

/insert Kenneth Williams gif/

[Hopadop]

It's the former Man on the Clapham Omnibus. He's suffered an acrimonious divorce and discovered gender fluidity and tofu.

He's still quite firm, but has lost a bit of vigour since the days of worrying about his servants reading Lady Chatterley's Lover.

[Rigadon]

First time I've seen Morocco in this WC and I was wondering what the fuss has been about.  They were very disappointing.

[Brazilian Villain]

Guehi a doubt for Norway game and Rice ill with bug. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c3eyqdwq392o