Aston Villa v Brentford Post-Match Thread

[Astral Weeks]

VAR is not there to offer opinions on whether a ball is out, or not.

Is this correct?

I don't recall VAR adjudicating on a throw in  before. And even if it was within their remit, which I doubt, the fact remains that the video evidence was insufficient to make a 100% definitive decision.

[Meanwood Villa]

Just to say - it seems extremely obvious to me that we missed Tielemans like a missing limb today, and this doesn't seem much discussed yet.

What is there to say about it? We need to find a way to win games with the options we've got. For what it's worth, I thought Luiz looked alright, some nice touches.

[Small Rodent]

VAR reminded me of one that basically turned the table against Arsenal last year I think. They would have been 5 points ahead of Man City but VAR said offside was not conclusive so definitely offside and the goal for them didn’t stand.

[Monty]

Just to say - it seems extremely obvious to me that we missed Tielemans like a missing limb today, and this doesn't seem much discussed yet.

What is there to say about it? We need to find a way to win games with the options we've got. For what it's worth, I thought Luiz looked alright, some nice touches.

It's worth mentioning it, I think!

[Matt C]

Desperately frustrating day.

Clearly, we’re going to need a little time to adjust to having three such crucial players out, as would any side losing three the quality of Kamara, McGinn, and Tielemans. Emery will find a way though, he always does.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Just to say - it seems extremely obvious to me that we missed Tielemans like a missing limb today, and this doesn't seem much discussed yet.

Youri would probably have found a way to break the roadblocks in the centre of the park but I thought we also missed SJM just as much. there was nobody dragging the team forward when everybody is looking around at each other expecting others to do something. Missing McGinn's leadership and his driving passion, lifting the side when it most needs it was a key factor today. There were no leaders on the pitch.

[Monty]

Yeah, McGinn is the heart and the drive on days like this. A fit Onana is a different level of presence, too. Obviously Kamara controls the entire midfield, when on song.

Almost like having your whole midfield injured and having to start newbies and kids together is, like, bad.

[Somniloquism]

VAR reminded me of one that basically turned the table against Arsenal last year I think. They would have been 5 points ahead of Man City but VAR said offside was not conclusive so definitely offside and the goal for them didn’t stand.

It would have been two years ago against Newcastle. There was three or four decisions they needed to check. Did the ball go out? Was their a handball? Was there a foul? Was the Newcastle scorer ahead of the ball and last defender if the other Newcastle player touched it? On all decisions they stated it was too inconclusive to judge any of them so on field decision stands. That was even when the ball looked so far over the line from one angle that if they had stated it went out, no one would have argued much at all.

[Clampy]

I thought we missed all the injured players that were out today. We just didnt look the same. Deserved a point at least.

[Mister E]

Strongly suspect neither Onana and Barkley were fit enough to play ....

... Monumental frustrating day.

Agree with you about Onana and Barkley only being on the bench for show. Also agree that Bogarde was piss-poor. Clearly we're down to the bare bones of the squad but Sancho is shite and Bailey reminded me once again that he is usually all fart and no shit. I'd honestly have played KY ahead of Sancho.
Late on, we missed someone like Barkley to play the killer pass.

Having said ask that we were in pretty solid control throughout the game, apart from that raking pass over Maatsen's head for the goal.

[geolex]

We absolutely did not miss Watkins.

He would have offered nothing useful today.

Pointless, probably inaccurate, but entirely predictable post.

What exactly would he have done? His finishing is no better than what we had out there.

We were camped inside their box. Did we really need him to chase anything down and lay it off?

Does he play defence splitting passes?

Does he even take a good penalty?

No so what would he have offered? I'm all ears pal.


not in the 1st half we weren't
we didn't have a penalty so that's  a pointless comment

[saint13]

Just to say - it seems extremely obvious to me that we missed Tielemans like a missing limb today, and this doesn't seem much discussed yet.

I said it in the match thread after 15 mins. However, it doesn't need much discussing though, he is our best player and we are always going to miss him.

[Ian.]

So we didn’t score any goals today but our in form striker who’s on a very good scoring streak wasn’t missed.

[Villa Lew]

The goal should have stood, I did think it was probably over the line, but for the officials to over turn the decision, they have to be 100% certain, which they clearly coudn't have been.

Will give credit to Brentford, they defended well the 2nd half, the only real chances we created were from Tammy and Leon. The goal was fortunate but it was a cracking strike from Ouattara. Having now done the treble over us Brentford have now taken over from Palace as our bogey side this season, hopefully we won't meet them in the FA Cup!

[Crown Hill]

As frustrated with VAR as everyone else.

Its about time we realised that the way to beat sides who put every man behind the ball is to go wide and get to the by line rather than trying to thread the eye of the needle in the middle.

Couldn’t understand all the short corners.