Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)

[tomd2103]

I thought he did ok - considering he’s not played in months, and even when he’s had minutes it’s been fleeting. He kept going and had some good link up play.

Agree Paul.  Thought he came into it more in the second half and was involved in some good passages of play. 

[VILLA MOLE]

I thought he did ok - considering he’s not played in months, and even when he’s had minutes it’s been fleeting. He kept going and had some good link up play.

Agree Paul.  Thought he came into it more in the second half and was involved in some good passages of play. 

He has nice feet , but doesnt look very moblile , but some of that might be rustiness

[Flamingo Lane]

The rustiness was entirely understandable, not helped by the way the team as a whole approached the game in the first half.  I liked that he seemed as pleased as anyone at the end of the game.

[brontebilly]

As a Buendia understudy I think he would be a good option - we're just not in the position to spend £35 million quid on that.

Wasn't too long ago Buendia was Rogers understudy at best. Fortunes can change quickly in football. Elliot could be useful in games like the recent Everton one. He is very light and that's the main issue I see. Struggles to protect possession. Sancho has same issue.

[LeeB]

Leeds type player. Might as well utilize him for 9 appearances then it is what it is. Not worth anything remotely close to £35m.

Whatever you say, Goldie.

I keep a list of players in my notes and I’d much prefer us dipping back into the lower leagues to find more quality like Rogers. I really like Tyreece Campbell at Charlton — two-footed with blistering pace. His current stats don’t exactly jump off the page yet, but I can see there’s something there. Under Emery, he could be absolutely ridiculous for us on either wing. Elliott doesn’t give me that feeling, so he never made my list.

*Wrote purely for future receipts. When Brighton or Bournemouth inevitably sign him and everyone is going full Antoine Semenyo, I’ll be dusting this off.

I liked the young Japanese lad they had last night.

[Mister E]

Leeds type player. Might as well utilize him for 9 appearances then it is what it is. Not worth anything remotely close to £35m.

Whatever you say, Goldie.

I keep a list of players in my notes and I’d much prefer us dipping back into the lower leagues to find more quality like Rogers. I really like Tyreece Campbell at Charlton — two-footed with blistering pace. His current stats don’t exactly jump off the page yet, but I can see there’s something there. Under Emery, he could be absolutely ridiculous for us on either wing. Elliott doesn’t give me that feeling, so he never made my list.
*Wrote purely for future receipts. When Brighton or Bournemouth inevitably sign him and everyone is going full Antoine Semenyo, I’ll be dusting this off.

I liked the young Japanese lad they had last night.

So did the commentator - never stopped going on about him.

[rooboy316]

As good as Buendia has been this season, I think Elliot has more quality. Rusty tonight, but the way he plays changes our passing tempo.

[Clark W Griswold]

Is he not worth £35m though?

We paid £30m for Guessand, only really played in France, his stats weren't mind blowing. We paid £38m for Buendia 5 years ago, championship player of the year fair enough but Elliott comes from a title winning Liverpool squad and he just won player of the tournament for England U21s.

All things considered he did really well last night, his attitude is faultless under the circumstances. I think he could be at least a Buendia for us long term and I'd sooner see him get a chance than us spend £25 to £35 million on someone else. Obviously whatever Unai thinks is the final word as he is beyond criticism or doubt, if he has a few players in mind in the £15m range that could be Rogers level then that's a different story.

[Smithy]

He ran around a lot. He showed for the ball. Gave his all which in the circumstances is a credit to him. He isn’t worth £35M though, and we need to sort something out with Liverpool quickly to either free the spot up, or be able to use him without signing him. Option 3 I guess is to negotiate a cheaper buy price so you could then simply sell him on for the same fee and not loose out too badly on SCR or whichever acronym we are meant to use these days.

We shouldn't even have to negotiate a cheaper price, just pay a 'loan fee' to turn the loan into an optional purchase instead of a compulsory one.  I would imagine we've not paid a fee to loan him this season, as they were expecting £35m in the summer.  Well, that's clearly not happening now.  So why not pay a loan fee instead, and get the compulsory purchase removed from the agreement?  Elliot gets to play, Liverpool get a few million and a player to sell in the summer who hasn't been rotting on the training ground all year.

We paid £4.25 to loan Zaniolo for a season, so I don't see why we wouldn't do similar here?

It's possible we're playing a game of chicken and hoping Liverpool blinks first, but honestly, if we get to the end of the window and this kid's position has changed at all, it's as much a failure on our part as it is Liverpool's.

[PeterWithesShin]

He's worth 35m I reckon, big question is if he's worth 35m to us.

[Skipper_The_Eyechild]

Is he not worth £35m though?

We paid £30m for Guessand, only really played in France, his stats weren't mind blowing. We paid £38m for Buendia 5 years ago, championship player of the year fair enough but Elliott comes from a title winning Liverpool squad and he just won player of the tournament for England U21s.

All things considered he did really well last night, his attitude is faultless under the circumstances. I think he could be at least a Buendia for us long term and I'd sooner see him get a chance than us spend £25 to £35 million on someone else. Obviously whatever Unai thinks is the final word as he is beyond criticism or doubt, if he has a few players in mind in the £15m range that could be Rogers level then that's a different story.

Yeah, I don't see £35 mil as some outlandish price. Whether we can afford it and want to spend it elsewhere is a different matter but the price? No issue for me. We spunked 25 or so on Guessand!

[SamTheMouse]

Impressed me last night. Didn't have his arse in his hand - just went out and worked hard. I thought he improved as the game went on, and considering he's played no football to speak of for months, he did better than I would have expected.

Still think the lad's quality and would be quite happy for us to sign him permanently.

[Percy McCarthy]

Is he not worth £35m though?

We paid £30m for Guessand, only really played in France, his stats weren't mind blowing. We paid £38m for Buendia 5 years ago, championship player of the year fair enough but Elliott comes from a title winning Liverpool squad and he just won player of the tournament for England U21s.

All things considered he did really well last night, his attitude is faultless under the circumstances. I think he could be at least a Buendia for us long term and I'd sooner see him get a chance than us spend £25 to £35 million on someone else. Obviously whatever Unai thinks is the final word as he is beyond criticism or doubt, if he has a few players in mind in the £15m range that could be Rogers level then that's a different story.

£26m for Guessand, £33m for Buendia. Glad you’re not doing the books, we’d have been docked points.

[Smithy]

He's worth 35m I reckon, big question is if he's worth 35m to us.

And that's the crux of it.  Whether he's overpriced at £35m, or not, Unai has decided he can do more with his limited funds than spend that £35m on Harvey.  And, as tough as that is on the kid, that's the reality. 

He might well be worth £35m to someone else in the summer, he might not.  But given our precarious financial situation, we're not able to spend that money without significantly sacrificing our wiggle room to strengthen the team elsewhere.  If we'd triggered his clause, there is no way we're signing Tammy, for example.  Unai isn't just making a decision on whether Harvey is worth £35m, he's comparing it to what that £35m can do for our team elsewhere.

Do I personally think Harvey is worth £35m? Yes, I probably do. Certainly £25m-£30m.  In a world where JJ was worth £40m, I don't think it's a ridiculous price for Harvey at all.  If someone else had bought him in the summer for £35m, I certainly wouldn't have sat there reading about it and thinking, "Liverpool have had their pants down there!"

He will have a very solid Premier League career (or top flight European career), and be a good servant to whichever club he ends up at. He might even get a few caps, and you can't say that about every £30m footballer these days.

[Toronto Villa]

Shame the early chance didn't go in. Bizarre save by the keeper. Easy to forget the brilliant summer he had and some of the quality moments he showed for Liverpool in the league and CL. He's a young player that will have a lost a year of his career. That's not on him that we decided not to use him a month after he joined. We should never have signed him if we weren't sure about him.