Quote from: RamboandBruno on May 27, 2025, 08:20:51 PMQuote from: charlatan on May 27, 2025, 06:57:16 PMI think I've realised that it's more the excitement of watching the matches that lives with me rather than winning trophies (though I'd like to see us win the FA Cup to complete the set of those that matter in my lifetime). I never expect us to win any given trophy (or rather we haven't made it close enough for me to expect one for a very long time), so I'm more concerned with our ability to hit the heights fairly regularly, to be competitive. We did that this season and have done since Emery was installed. That said, there seems to have been a creeping trend towards a more passive approach across Emery's reign which makes the losses harder to take anything positive from and the football generally less enthralling. Would feel better about the Palace and Manchester United games if I felt like we had given them a real shot. Didn't feel bad about the PSG defeat at all.Overall we did marginally better than I had expected at the start of the season and it would seem daft to be disappointed for long bearing that in mind.This is a really good post. The PSG game I was a combination of really gutted but immensely proud, maybe the most proud Ive been coming away from Villa Park. On the flip side Sunday was terrible but Palace was the worst, definitely the lowest Ive felt coming away from a game since Fulham 2018. To just not show up in anyway at all, was mind blowing. In 22/23 when Emery came in we generally had good results, punctuated by losses, but then had that momentum filled run that got us to 7th, that was a joy. The first half of 23/24 was incredible, blowing then decent teams away literally battering them and the 1-0 mauling of a then tip top man city, is still one of the most complete performances I’ve seen at VP. This run from late Feb has been title winning form and really enjoyable, but apart from the odd game (Newcastle), we now have spells in games where we do what we have to do, rather than the gorgeous football we were playing August to December 2023. Not sure what it is, we’ve lost Dougie who was integral, but Tielemans although a different player, has been great (although him and Doug both played in that man city game). Ramsey has been in and out and not got his dynamism back yet, Bailey hasn’t been the same player, we haven’t had pre xmas 2023 Diaby. Maybe the form of those players is the difference. It also does feel as much as we have patient controlled build up. we then rely on Rogers to literally ‘do something’. The additional factor as well, other than maybe Liverpool away early in 23/24 and Spurs at home debacle, defeats when they came, nearly always felt like we were in the game. This year away games at Liverpool, Chelsea, Newcastle, Wolves, Palace, man utd, Palace again in the cup, we’ve just been battered largely without response. Not sure if our reduced attacking fluidity and dynamism is interlinked with our propensity to fold more often.I agree with this - we rarely hit the highs of performance that we did in the first half of last season. I think Luiz was a miss - But I think more so - Leons bailey's complete loss of form - he was excellent at times last season - and 19 GA in the league compared to 3 this year is a big part.
Quote from: charlatan on May 27, 2025, 06:57:16 PMI think I've realised that it's more the excitement of watching the matches that lives with me rather than winning trophies (though I'd like to see us win the FA Cup to complete the set of those that matter in my lifetime). I never expect us to win any given trophy (or rather we haven't made it close enough for me to expect one for a very long time), so I'm more concerned with our ability to hit the heights fairly regularly, to be competitive. We did that this season and have done since Emery was installed. That said, there seems to have been a creeping trend towards a more passive approach across Emery's reign which makes the losses harder to take anything positive from and the football generally less enthralling. Would feel better about the Palace and Manchester United games if I felt like we had given them a real shot. Didn't feel bad about the PSG defeat at all.Overall we did marginally better than I had expected at the start of the season and it would seem daft to be disappointed for long bearing that in mind.This is a really good post. The PSG game I was a combination of really gutted but immensely proud, maybe the most proud Ive been coming away from Villa Park. On the flip side Sunday was terrible but Palace was the worst, definitely the lowest Ive felt coming away from a game since Fulham 2018. To just not show up in anyway at all, was mind blowing. In 22/23 when Emery came in we generally had good results, punctuated by losses, but then had that momentum filled run that got us to 7th, that was a joy. The first half of 23/24 was incredible, blowing then decent teams away literally battering them and the 1-0 mauling of a then tip top man city, is still one of the most complete performances I’ve seen at VP. This run from late Feb has been title winning form and really enjoyable, but apart from the odd game (Newcastle), we now have spells in games where we do what we have to do, rather than the gorgeous football we were playing August to December 2023. Not sure what it is, we’ve lost Dougie who was integral, but Tielemans although a different player, has been great (although him and Doug both played in that man city game). Ramsey has been in and out and not got his dynamism back yet, Bailey hasn’t been the same player, we haven’t had pre xmas 2023 Diaby. Maybe the form of those players is the difference. It also does feel as much as we have patient controlled build up. we then rely on Rogers to literally ‘do something’. The additional factor as well, other than maybe Liverpool away early in 23/24 and Spurs at home debacle, defeats when they came, nearly always felt like we were in the game. This year away games at Liverpool, Chelsea, Newcastle, Wolves, Palace, man utd, Palace again in the cup, we’ve just been battered largely without response. Not sure if our reduced attacking fluidity and dynamism is interlinked with our propensity to fold more often.
I think I've realised that it's more the excitement of watching the matches that lives with me rather than winning trophies (though I'd like to see us win the FA Cup to complete the set of those that matter in my lifetime). I never expect us to win any given trophy (or rather we haven't made it close enough for me to expect one for a very long time), so I'm more concerned with our ability to hit the heights fairly regularly, to be competitive. We did that this season and have done since Emery was installed. That said, there seems to have been a creeping trend towards a more passive approach across Emery's reign which makes the losses harder to take anything positive from and the football generally less enthralling. Would feel better about the Palace and Manchester United games if I felt like we had given them a real shot. Didn't feel bad about the PSG defeat at all.Overall we did marginally better than I had expected at the start of the season and it would seem daft to be disappointed for long bearing that in mind.
Seems about right. https://x.com/TheAthleticFC/status/1927621234126115142
Who are those circa 10% of Southampton fans who are "very satisfied" with their season, and why?But yes, I think that looks about right. I'm a bit surprised that it's not more heavily weighted towards satisfied rather than very satisfied, given how it ended. A useful reminder that people getting angry on the internet isn't representative.
Strong disapprove of putting blue on the left and red on the right. Are they American, FFS?
Its funny - but bottling the CL and FA Cup - Combined with what other clubs have achieved this season (Spurs, Palace, maybe Chelsea) - has kind of raised my expectations for next season. I really think next year we need to get CL and Silverware - anything less kind of feels like we have hit a ceiling. I have this massive concern that we have seen the peak of this new dawn and desperately want to be proved wrong.
Who are the Man United fans voting "very satisfied"?
Quote from: Brazilian Villain on May 28, 2025, 11:40:00 AMSeems about right. https://x.com/TheAthleticFC/status/1927621234126115142Fucking 6th again 😡.