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Re: Brentford vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #210 on: March 09, 2025, 12:04:21 PM »
Given the purpose of having the offside rule in the game, and the manner in which VAR is sucking away the spontaneous joy of celebrating a goal, on offsides such as the one last night, and the one v Palace, I think it would be good to now change the offside rule, so that a player would only be offside if the whole of his body is in front of the last defender.

That would be dreadful. It should be a fair contest between defender and attacker. Why would you want to give the attacker a massive unfair advantage?

If I want to watch a sport where scoring is tediously easy, I'll start watching basketball. It's supposed to be difficult.

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Re: Brentford vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #211 on: March 09, 2025, 12:15:38 PM »
Any change to stuff like ‘the whole body’ or ‘the standing foot’ is subject to the same tedious millimetre measurements as now.

I’d definitely go for applying the same ‘clear and obvious’ criteria as every other decision that is looked at by VAR and stop pretending we can definitively tell whether a goal is offside to the nth degree. We can’t.

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Re: Brentford vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #212 on: March 09, 2025, 12:19:42 PM »
Scrap VAR and we can moan about Manchester United and the Liverpool's of this world get there mate in black giving them every dubious decision and then moan about why we don't have VAR

I'd like to agree but they still get the calls (Nunez pen yesterday) it's now that it's given incorrectly twice.

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Re: Brentford vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #213 on: March 09, 2025, 12:22:38 PM »
I just don't why they don't have wider lines. Any overlap then it's not offside.

The line being 250mm. then it would be fine.

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Re: Brentford vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #214 on: March 09, 2025, 12:23:11 PM »
Make the lines a little bit thicker, and if there's any overlap then it's onside.

Just read that's exactly what the guy above has said 😂
« Last Edit: March 09, 2025, 04:34:31 PM by Goldenballs »

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Re: Brentford vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #215 on: March 09, 2025, 12:25:24 PM »
And the twat was moaning his was hard done by , by getting a yellow. A cowards tackle favoured by Ben Mee.

I did think Mee had been teaching them how to tackle when I saw it on MOTD last night.

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Re: Brentford vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #216 on: March 09, 2025, 12:28:26 PM »
It seems now we have stopped trying the offside trap, the clamour to change the rules have comeback.

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Re: Brentford vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #217 on: March 09, 2025, 01:52:10 PM »
Someone like Liverpool and that goal is given and often they don't even show the lines , or if they do they might be from a fortunate angle skewing perspective. It's the lack of consistency that frustrates. The sooner the semi automated system is introduced the better.

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Re: Brentford vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #218 on: March 09, 2025, 02:20:28 PM »
Just scrap the lines all together and get rid of freeze frames. Watch the replay as many times ans needed and let your eyes make a decision. If the referees make a decision, they’re protected. If they send it to Stockley Park, they’re protected. If they go to the monitor, they’re protected. It’s insane.. all in the spirit of “getting it right”. Put your neck out there and make a call. Enough with the safety blanket and pseudo-accountability.

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Re: Brentford vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #219 on: March 09, 2025, 02:40:57 PM »
Just scrap the lines all together and get rid of freeze frames. Watch the replay as many times ans needed and let your eyes make a decision. If the referees make a decision, they’re protected. If they send it to Stockley Park, they’re protected. If they go to the monitor, they’re protected. It’s insane.. all in the spirit of “getting it right”. Put your neck out there and make a call. Enough with the safety blanket and pseudo-accountability.

Once you take it out of the hands of the linesman you need the lines to ensure that the camera angle isn’t skewing it.

The VAR decision yesterday was correct within how the rules are currently interpreted. The point about not being able to exactly pick when the ball is hit forward is valid up to a point but it is also the case when the technology is not there.

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Re: Brentford vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #220 on: March 09, 2025, 04:01:32 PM »
The drawing of the lines is the problem. The point of VAR was to eliminate  human error.
If you need lines then you have gone to another place in attempting to predict marginal calls.
It should be freeze frame, offside or not, if the answer is I can not tell without taking more time and drawing lines then it shouldn’t be given offside.


Couldn't agree more.
Surely the semi-automated tech was supposed to end all this nonsense? Was it not used for the last round of the FA cup, then carrying on for the rest of the season in the league?
But they still went to lines if it wasn’t conclusive.
Again, it should be we can’t tell it’s ruled onside.

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Re: Brentford vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #221 on: March 09, 2025, 04:05:30 PM »
The circumstances of that Bournemouth goal will be rare, though.

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Re: Brentford vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #222 on: March 09, 2025, 04:40:39 PM »
There'd be plenty kicking up more of a fuss about it if the goal had been the crucial one and cost us two points , as it stands it didn't matter so some may adopt a laissez faire stance on this one.

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Re: Brentford vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #223 on: March 09, 2025, 07:24:01 PM »
I hope we don’t start kicking up a fuss about disallowed goals that were correctly disallowed.

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Re: Brentford vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #224 on: March 09, 2025, 09:45:55 PM »
Like handball, offside is a law that those refereeing and regulating the game have completely forgotten why it was introduced and what’s its purpose was and is.

We now have VAR scrutinising and analysing decisions to the nth degree and with no sense as to what the game is supposed to be and why laws to control it exist.


 


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