Summer 2025 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc.

[Mister E]

Yes, but when every other club knows we have to make a sale before 30th June, it puts us in a position where we have to sell a player for significantly less than their true value. Like we did last year with Dougie.

Of course, I understand that other clubs will be leveraging our situation at this time, but do we have the same profitability issues this year? - I thought the main challenge would be satisfying the Euro-comps wages ratio.
And, would selling Ramsey be our first move? Or, rather, would we not be selling players like Bailey, KKH, Iling-Junior et al?

It would all be a bit shit to see our players being picked off ...
...not 'a bit': it would be absolutely and dishearteningly shit!

[Steve67]

Injuries aside,  JJ having to be shoehorned into the side, out left, perhaps doesn’t allow him to be at his best. I guess we are also stacked in the central midfield position too. Does this make him sellable? Equally, if the Stoke lad comes in, I presume this doesn’t apply to list of club trained as he didn’t come through the ranks?

[ozzjim]

So today is deadline day for the first window, thanks to this glorified FIFA pre-season friendly tournament. Do we have to sell someone today to meet our June PSR obligation? Or does the second window open up in time?

Isn't today just the deadline for players to be registered in time for the silly US thing?

There's nothing stopping us from selling someone tomorrow, it's just that if they go to a team in that tournament then they can't use them.

Also, isn't the 30th June the premier league PSR deadline, so the club could be considering a completely different sale or two to get round that one and not be taken advantage of selling cheap on the playing side.

[Proposition Joe]

So today is deadline day for the first window, thanks to this glorified FIFA pre-season friendly tournament. Do we have to sell someone today to meet our June PSR obligation? Or does the second window open up in time?

Isn't today just the deadline for players to be registered in time for the silly US thing?

There's nothing stopping us from selling someone tomorrow, it's just that if they go to a team in that tournament then they can't use them.

No, i think it is a genuine transfer window. I just looked it up though, and the second window opens next week. The mini break is so that the longer window doesn't exceed the 16 week limit.

[Dave]

Injuries aside,  JJ having to be shoehorned into the side, out left, perhaps doesn’t allow him to be at his best. I guess we are also stacked in the central midfield position too. Does this make him sellable? Equally, if the Stoke lad comes in, I presume this doesn’t apply to list of club trained as he didn’t come through the ranks?

Correct. He's also only 18, so if we were using him next season (something which would be a surprise in itself) he doesn't need to be on the main squad lists anyway.

[Steve67]

Thanks Dave.

Hopefully the club are working on KKH, Moreno, Buendia and Nedeljkovic deals, which hopefully bring in a good few quid.

[Somniloquism]

Some headlines circling about JJ to Newcastle for £30m. 

When you look at other fees, that would be very low. £40-45 minimum is his value surely?

The price we’ll likely pay for needing the money by the end of the month.

I thought after the Chelsea/PL meeting last week we'd be flogging stuff to ourselves to get round all this?

Too late to do this in this financial year. I'm just surprised that we need to sell players before 30 June after the business in January and the extra income from CL.

[john2710]

I'd heard some weeks ago, from someone who knows the family, that JJ was going to Newcastle & that the family were gutted by it.

I also saw an interview with Howe where he stated Newcastle weren't under the same PSR concerns as last season & hoped to take advantage of teams who were.

Everyone knows or assumes we need to sell, so we're not going to be able to drive the price up. Unless we can ship out some of the deadwood, it could be JJ is the  one to go this season.

[Monty]

Eddie Howe's a soulless apparatchik. Would make a great Stasi penpusher.

[Drummond]

Yep, Howe fits that shitty bunch of bastards right down to the ground.

[cdbearsfan]

So, not just getting fucked over but getting fucked over while helping a direct rival out. And there are still some people on here who think these rules are justified.

[Rigadon]

JJ to Newcastle would be pretty shit it has to be said, especially because they finished above us on pissing goal difference. 

But, if we must be the only club to comply with these rules by selling one of our best players every summer (rather than breaking the rules, being insulated by having been successful 10 years ago, or by selling the women's team / a hotel) then so be it... 

 

[Drummond]

I'd heard some weeks ago, from someone who knows the family, that JJ was going to Newcastle & that the family were gutted by it.

I also saw an interview with Howe where he stated Newcastle weren't under the same PSR concerns as last season & hoped to take advantage of teams who were.

Everyone knows or assumes we need to sell, so we're not going to be able to drive the price up. Unless we can ship out some of the deadwood, it could be JJ is the  one to go this season.

If he doesn't want to go, then he should say that and stay. I doubt Emery wants rid, and if he stayed, he'd play.

[Monty]

I mean, £30m would almost not be worth it. Just take a points deduction at that stage, fuck's sake. £30m for Jacob Ramsey? In this market? Why don't we just babysit their dogs and help them move while we're at it? Would be a grave and barely forgivable fuck up, in my view, either in the actual transaction or, if you prefer, in the strategy that's got us here in the first place.

[cdbearsfan]

JJ to Newcastle would be pretty shit it has to be said, especially because they finished above us on pissing goal difference. 

But, if we must be the only club to comply with these rules by selling one of our best players every summer (rather than breaking the rules, being insulated by having been successful 10 years ago, or by selling the women's team / a hotel) then so be it... 

I think this would only help us comply with the rule rather than the rules, plural. We would still be breaching the wages rule.