Summer 2025 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc.

[AV82EC]

While the lack of Champions League football leaves us with a 100m blackhole (if you assume we'd do just as well in it as last season)  - winning the Europa League would make up half of that.

Isn’t it more like £100m:
- minus what we’ll make in the Europa
- minus the extra televised games on Sunday
- minus the drop in salaries/bonuses

It’s a big drop but hopefully not £100m.

Indeed anyone quoting £100m black holes as gospel hasn’t been paying attention.

[Somniloquism]

Elliot is the one who looks like he's tipped a bowl of Supernoodles on his head?

Unfortunately yes.

It's a no from me because of his hair (and his name being Harvey).

It could be much worse. At 15 he thought this was the way to go.



(I didn't realise he was initially at Fulham).

Then went for the scouse perm when he moved up there, so maybe if he moved to the midlands he will just go sensible haircut.

[letsshakehands]

I still think Ramsey has a very high ceiling, but next season has to be the one where he fulfils it IMO.

Concur with this, he struggled after his serious injury and has picked up loads of niggles, a good pre season and I think he’ll be back on it next season.

He's also our only club home grown player in the first team, which assuming we intend to keep qualifying for European competitions makes him very valuable to us. Certainly wouldn't be interested in swapping him for Harvey Barnes, for example. Losing Emi and Watkins would also mean two 'English' HG players, so I can see us needing to do at least some domestic business, and that's before considering upgrades on the likes of Cash or Konsa many would like. It's going to be an interesting summer.

[Dave]

He's also our only club home grown player in the first team, which assuming we intend to keep qualifying for European competitions makes him very valuable to us. Certainly wouldn't be interested in swapping him for Harvey Barnes, for example. Losing Emi and Watkins would also mean two 'English' HG players, so I can see us needing to do at least some domestic business, and that's before considering upgrades on the likes of Cash or Konsa many would like. It's going to be an interesting summer.

All very good points.

I'm not necessarily in favour of either move, but given they're clearly both going to be available whether we'd have any interest in a loan for Chukwuemeka or Grealish.

Obviously the answer is almost certainly no, but presumably / hopefully at some point we're going to need to address the lack of club-trained players in our European squads.

[Dogtanian]

Elliot is the one who looks like he's tipped a bowl of Supernoodles on his head?

Unfortunately yes.

It's a no from me because of his hair (and his name being Harvey).

It could be much worse. At 15 he thought this was the way to go.

(I didn't realise he was initially at Fulham).

Then went for the scouse perm when he moved up there, so maybe if he moved to the midlands he will just go sensible haircut.

I think Emery would have none of that follicle nonsense if he comes to Bodymoor.

[Sexual Ealing]

This signing would significantly lower our fitty average. On that basis I cannot approve it.

[Mister E]

Could do with Coutinho and Dendoncker off the wage bill.  As was said Digne's wages are much higher than a replacements might be.  Cash in on Martinez and Bailey.  Has Ramsey done enough for us to feel that he is the future?  There's £100m of player sales.

Buendia £10m minimum
Barry - £5-10m
Iling Junior - £5-10m
Enzo - £15m
Dendonker - free
Coutinho - free
Ned - £10-15m
Bailey - £20-25m
That's best part of £100m there

I see things a little differently:
Buendia £15m minimum; more like £20m
Barry - £5-10m; yes - £7-8m max
Iling Junior - £5-10m; £5m, probably
Enzo - £15m; NOT FOR SALE
Dendonker - free
Coutinho - free
Ned - £10-15m; £12M I've seen mentioned
Bailey - £20-25m; £25m
So £65-70m from this lot. There'll be 3-4 kids who get moved on as well (KKH, Feeney, perhaps ...) for another £20m.
If we decide we have to sell from the pot of first-choice players, I'm guessing it will be Kamara, regrettably.

[PaulWinch again]

Elliott is a really talented player.

[letsshakehands]

All very good points.

I'm not necessarily in favour of either move, but given they're clearly both going to be available whether we'd have any interest in a loan for Chukwuemeka or Grealish.

Obviously the answer is almost certainly no, but presumably / hopefully at some point we're going to need to address the lack of club-trained players in our European squads.

Bogarde will count as he joined as a 16yo, I think he still counts as list B, not needing to be registered, for 25/26 though as he was born in January. Not sure how highly rated he is though as we've seen nothing of him since everyone has been fit.

[PeterWithe]

I think this is where we’re at this summer. Unai has absolutely squeezed the pips out of what he inherited over the last near enough 3 seasons with some judicious additions but is he reaching a point where he thinks his inherited core of Martinez/Cash/Konsa/Mings/McGinn/Kamara/Watkins/Bailey has served its purpose and we need gradually to move in a different direction to maybe progress further.

I'd have tended to agree with you that I think we will, by choice, be doing more business than some think. But then, UEs comments about wanting to keep exactly the same squad if we could, seem to go against that.

[PaulWinch again]

Whatever people think of him, Ollie has been crucial to our play and has a really strong output. If he leaves it’s a huge gap the plug.

[Beard82]

I think this is where we’re at this summer. Unai has absolutely squeezed the pips out of what he inherited over the last near enough 3 seasons with some judicious additions but is he reaching a point where he thinks his inherited core of Martinez/Cash/Konsa/Mings/McGinn/Kamara/Watkins/Bailey has served its purpose and we need gradually to move in a different direction to maybe progress further.

I'd have tended to agree with you that I think we will, by choice, be doing more business than some think. But then, UEs comments about wanting to keep exactly the same squad if we could, seem to go against that.

But I think that is that he would rather add to whats there then have to sell.  For example - we would much rather keep Watkins but bring in a replacement and be able to use both.

[Rigadon]

I think this is where we’re at this summer. Unai has absolutely squeezed the pips out of what he inherited over the last near enough 3 seasons with some judicious additions but is he reaching a point where he thinks his inherited core of Martinez/Cash/Konsa/Mings/McGinn/Kamara/Watkins/Bailey has served its purpose and we need gradually to move in a different direction to maybe progress further.

I'd have tended to agree with you that I think we will, by choice, be doing more business than some think. But then, UEs comments about wanting to keep exactly the same squad if we could, seem to go against that.

But I think that is that he would rather add to whats there then have to sell.  For example - we would much rather keep Watkins but bring in a replacement and be able to use both.

No other team in the top 6 has that luxury do they?  As in two. 

[Tuscans]

🚨 Aston Villa are looking at Rennes left-back Adrien Truffert.
@lequipe

[Somniloquism]

Could do with Coutinho and Dendoncker off the wage bill.  As was said Digne's wages are much higher than a replacements might be.  Cash in on Martinez and Bailey.  Has Ramsey done enough for us to feel that he is the future?  There's £100m of player sales.

Buendia £10m minimum
Barry - £5-10m
Iling Junior - £5-10m
Enzo - £15m
Dendonker - free
Coutinho - free
Ned - £10-15m
Bailey - £20-25m
That's best part of £100m there

I see things a little differently:
Buendia £15m minimum; more like £20m
Barry - £5-10m; yes - £7-8m max
Iling Junior - £5-10m; £5m, probably
Enzo - £15m; NOT FOR SALE
Dendonker - free
Coutinho - free
Ned - £10-15m; £12M I've seen mentioned
Bailey - £20-25m; £25m
So £65-70m from this lot. There'll be 3-4 kids who get moved on as well (KKH, Feeney, perhaps ...) for another £20m.
If we decide we have to sell from the pot of first-choice players, I'm guessing it will be Kamara, regrettably.

Anyone know what is happening with Moreno? Coming back, being bought by Forest? Just forgotten by everyone when making lists of players and their values?