Wolves vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[PeterWithesShin]

The issue with VAR is that on situations like this, for all the tecnology it's still subjective. So you'll never have the consistency we want. And by we I mean fans, players and possibly even the officials themselves.

[edgysatsuma89]

The issue with VAR is that on situations like this, for all the tecnology it's still subjective. So you'll never have the consistency we want. And by we I mean fans, players and possibly even the officials themselves.

I understand that, which is why I don't know why the ref wasn't sent to the monitor to make that subjective decision.

[Somniloquism]

The one thing I don't blame the lino doing it putting a flag up if they think it is offside. That is their job after all. But this is the exact reasoning for hearing the chat during the match. Did the lino state "Rogers was offside and interfering with the defender" or did he state "I thought McGinn/Malen was offside".

Pausing on the clip linked above at 24 seconds, I honestly think he did call Rogers as he was so blatantly offside, and seemed to be reaching for the defender. However I still think the decision should have ultimately been the refs from the screen.

[London Villan]

I do wonder which player the lino actually flagged offside for?

[LeeB]

I do wonder which player the lino actually flagged offside for?

The lino saw Rogers position and flagged, but the subjective call on the interference was done afterwards.

[jon collett]

I do wonder which player the lino actually flagged offside for?

I agree and I’ve yet to see a definitely shot of which side of the penalty spot the Lino was when he flagged. I doubt he could see any contact from Rogers where he was.

[tomd2103]

I still think our goal should've stood, and that it's pretty obvious that they ruled out the goal because they thought Digne or (more likely) Malen offside, and upon finding that they were wrong cast about for something to cover their arses with, however flimsy. Lovely system we've got going.

Not the first time that's happened to us, and I'm struggling to think of another club where it has.

It happened to.us against Manchester United at Old Trafford (surprise, surprise!) in a cup game didn't it?

If it is deemed a correct decision, then surely every set piece needs to be checked over for any players in an offside position who make contact with defenders that may prevent them from getting anywhere near the ball?

[The Edge]

I do wonder which player the lino actually flagged offside for?

The lino saw Rogers position and flagged, but the subjective call on the interference was done afterwards.

Basically VAR once again put the rules through the mangle until the came up with a way of backing up their colleague.

[aj2k77]

My favourite was when they ''re-wrote'' the rules the day after we got fucked over by the offside against Man City because apparently their colleague had applied the rule as it should but it was against a sense of fair play and needed changing. In other words, a prick fudged it to give Man City a goal but it was so blatantly wrong they covered his arse.

[SamTheMouse]

It does feel as if VAR is now being used to rubber stamp shit decisions and avoid making the on-pitch officials look like divs.

[edgysatsuma89]

It does feel as if VAR is now being used to rubber stamp shit decisions and avoid making the on-pitch officials look like divs.

I have been all for it through all the criticism until this season. I barely see the point in it in it's current state (outside of offsides).

[PeterWithesShin]

The fact that no Wolves players, including the one 'fouled' appealed for it is pretty telling imo. If the flag doesn't go up for offside I really don't think it would have been ruled out.

[Meanwood Villa]

The fact that no Wolves players, including the one 'fouled' appealed for it is pretty telling imo. If the flag doesn't go up for offside I really don't think it would have been ruled out.

Definitely not. No one would have batted an eyelid if it was allowed.

[paul_e]

The fact that no Wolves players, including the one 'fouled' appealed for it is pretty telling imo. If the flag doesn't go up for offside I really don't think it would have been ruled out.

I think the same, no flag and I'd be amazed if the VAR sent him to screen for it. Whilst being critical of the onfield officials, How the fuck did rogers get booked for a challenge that was barely a foul but Cunha didn't get booked until he took his shirt off despite committing 6 fouls that were given and 3-4 other challenges that were at best 50/50. I just don't get why we seem to be punished for things so quickly but similar stuff is allowed to go for the opposition. I'm sure all fans think refs are a bit biased but we regularly seem to get more bookings despite making fewer fouls and rarely are the challenges significantly worse than stuff you see waved away every week.

[RamboandBruno]

On the subject of VAR, my 14 year old said to me during the West Ham cup game, how much he was enjoying it, because he didn’t have to think if our goals were going to be checked by VAR, he could just celebrate.
This is the main reason why I think VAR is so corrosive, even taking into account mistakes by officials pre VAR, this current system literally sucks the life out of the main point of football, the joy of celebrating a goal.