Monaco vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[villa for life]

We desperately need Pau back. We can’t play Watkins and Duran together. Rogers is knackered and needs a rest.

Really poor.

Disagree. I think had Pau played, we’d have been 2 or 3 down. Mings made a mistake but he more than made up for it.

He made a few mistakes. Gave the ball away repeatedly too

Fuck me, you could say that about the majority of them.

You could, but the point is about what Pau brings and it is very obvious that passing out of defence absolutely killed us tonight. Not the only thing clearly, but Konsa and Mings consistently stopped us building any play.

But they also stopped the opposition scoring more than one.

[tomd2103]

Patchy performance for 60 odd minutes, then looked ragged when Duran came on.  Not blaming JD, but we lost any kind of shape we had and it was just error after error after that. 

Will have to see how it goes, but I fear that's our chances of finishing in the top 8 done. 

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

We desperately need Pau back. We can’t play Watkins and Duran together. Rogers is knackered and needs a rest.

Really poor.

Disagree. I think had Pau played, we’d have been 2 or 3 down. Mings made a mistake but he more than made up for it.

He made a few mistakes. Gave the ball away repeatedly too

Fuck me, you could say that about the majority of them.

You could, but the point is about what Pau brings and it is very obvious that passing out of defence absolutely killed us tonight. Not the only thing clearly, but Konsa and Mings consistently stopped us building any play.

I’m not sure Pau being on the pitch would have made much of a difference to say Rogers giving the ball away so much. The centre halves weren’t only ones giving the ball away.

[AGRIPPA]

Cash gets some credit, as does Kamara - at least they both tried.

Buendia should have been subbed at halftime with Bailey.

Emery needs some criticism as well here, just not quick enough with making changes.

You need new glasses….beundia did well first half…

[eamonn]

Probably wrong about this but Emi M...does he have a habit of "saving for the cameras"? Sometimes when he dives for a shot and saves, it looks a bit over the top. For the goal tonight, does he have to jump so animatedly for the initial save? Cos it leaves him rooted to the ground once he parries the ball and it's an easy rebound header. I dunno, maybe the pace on the original effort grounded him but he has a habit of doing this.

[villa for life]

I don’t think tonight’s loss had much to do with the centre backs. It was the lack of cutting edge up front that did us. We conceded a goal after 8 mins. Big deal. Plenty of time to score. We didn’t. We didn’t concede after that either.

[andyh]

What really pisses me off is that this makes the lazy journalism and reasoning appear correct.
It’s so easy to say we can’t cope with domestic and European football, it’s too much for us.
Just like they levelled at Newcastle.

There is probably an element of truth in it and of course we have our injuries, but I hate it when we make so easy for the media to point out that ‘little old Villa’,can’t cope.
It’s so fucking patronising.

[JUAN PABLO]

not as bad as barcalonas defence


just having a giggle to cheer myself up

[Toronto Villa]

Also shit for the old coefficient losing tonight as we scramble for qualification. It would help us if 5th was available.

[Aldridge Villa]

Probably wrong about this but Emi M...does he have a habit of "saving for the cameras"? Sometimes when he dives for a shot and saves, it looks a bit over the top. For the goal tonight, does he have to jump so animatedly for the initial save? Cos it leaves him rooted to the ground once he parries the ball and it's an easy rebound header. I dunno, maybe the pace on the original effort grounded him but he has a habit of doing this.

I was thinking along those lines too.

[andyh]

Probably wrong about this but Emi M...does he have a habit of "saving for the cameras"? Sometimes when he dives for a shot and saves, it looks a bit over the top. For the goal tonight, does he have to jump so animatedly for the initial save? Cos it leaves him rooted to the ground once he parries the ball and it's an easy rebound header. I dunno, maybe the pace on the original effort grounded him but he has a habit of doing this.

I was thinking along those lines too.

I thought that at the time too, but some players are beyond reproach

[PaulWinch again]

We desperately need Pau back. We can’t play Watkins and Duran together. Rogers is knackered and needs a rest.

Really poor.

Disagree. I think had Pau played, we’d have been 2 or 3 down. Mings made a mistake but he more than made up for it.

He made a few mistakes. Gave the ball away repeatedly too

Fuck me, you could say that about the majority of them.

You could, but the point is about what Pau brings and it is very obvious that passing out of defence absolutely killed us tonight. Not the only thing clearly, but Konsa and Mings consistently stopped us building any play.

But they also stopped the opposition scoring more than one.

Yes, but also massively undermined our ability to score any and that was the same against Brugge. If they can’t link the play that kills us (as it did today).

[eamonn]

I don’t think tonight’s loss had much to do with the centre backs. It was the lack of cutting edge up front that did us. We conceded a goal after 8 mins. Big deal. Plenty of time to score. We didn’t. We didn’t concede after that either.

It completely changes the dynamic though. Monaco can effectively play 4-2-4 on the counter-attack and waste time at every fucking opportunity.

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

Probably wrong about this but Emi M...does he have a habit of "saving for the cameras"? Sometimes when he dives for a shot and saves, it looks a bit over the top. For the goal tonight, does he have to jump so animatedly for the initial save? Cos it leaves him rooted to the ground once he parries the ball and it's an easy rebound header. I dunno, maybe the pace on the original effort grounded him but he has a habit of doing this.

I was thinking along those lines too.

I thought that at the time too, but some players are beyond reproach

He’s not. I too thought the same and he’s passed directly to the opposition enough times over the last few games as well.

[PhilVill]

We desperately need Pau back. We can’t play Watkins and Duran together. Rogers is knackered and needs a rest.

Really poor.

This, but sadly a long wait for Pau to return. Mings has been a great player for the club but Champions League just isn't his game. We have to make sure we get a quality CB in the next 11 days.

Oh,and Bailey can do one, he can try every excuse in the book but tonight he showed he has his nice contract in place and doesn't give a fuck.

Duran and Watkins cannot play together, and this slow build up is just a load of crap, has been all season.