Nottingham Forest vs Aston Villa post-match thread

[brontebilly]

Yes, Cash was fouled in the build up for their winner. Yes, the ref was bad all game but this is all getting a bit repetitive and predictable now.

We spurn way too many chances and if we keep conceding 2 goals a game we’ll finish the season behind the likes of Forest who aren’t a particularly talented team - they just try harder than us and that I just can’t accept.

If that had been the other way round, we would have claimed that Cash was muscled off the ball. And we were lucky with the disallowed goal which took too long for VAR. They outfought us all game and that is worrying. Forest aren't in a false position though

They outfought us all game? After an utterly forgettable first half for both teams, I thought we were comfortably the better side until their late surge. The offside call is an objective one, granted it was very tight, luck doesn't really come into it.

It's the second game in a week where we collapsed late on at the back. Fortunate to get away with it in Leipzig maybe a bit unfortunate at Forest. But if we continue with Konsa<Carlos<Torres we aren't going to threaten anything this season. 

[The Edge]

Just watched MOTD - how the feck was that not a foul on Cash?

It wasn't. We'd be fuming if that was given as a foul the other way

It was.

[cdbearsfan]

I don't think it was a foul, but it was more of a foul than whatever the fuck that Juventus goal was disallowed for.

[Villa Lew]

Another concern is apart from Ollie, Jhon and Morgan, where are the goals coming from, no league goals from Bailey or McGinn this season.

[Chris Smith]

Another concern is apart from Ollie, Jhon and Morgan, where are the goals coming from, no league goals from Bailey or McGinn this season.

Bailey’s sluggish start to the season and the failure of Philogene to step up has disrupted us all season. That’s why we’re playing Cash as a makeshift midfielder. The left side has functioned reasonably well due to the form of Digne but too often our right hand side is a dead end.

[john e]

We have to many players who’s first thought is to go down looking for a foul, sitting on the pitch arms outstretched pleading with the ref instead off being stronger and getting on with the game
We do get the foul sometimes but to often the ref says play on and we lose possession because we weren’t strong enough

Cash, Konsa, Tielemans, Watkins, Rogers, even Duran tries it on they’re all culprit’s
a poster earlier said Forest played with more heart, and he’s right we are to lightweight to often and a lot of it is our own mindset we need to be stronger and far more determined and less of the phoney piss pooling about on the floor all the time

This is not a reaction to the Cash tackle, I thought it was a foul but even he was looking for it and it cost us

[oldtimernow]

Very disappointing, hate losing to a last minute goal.

see also Bournemouth...

[pelty]

Still livid over that performance in the last 15 minutes and the refereeing. Both were disgraceful and it is infuriating that there is no punishment for poor refereeing. “I was shite at my job today. Good thing no one gives a piss and I can go back to work tomorrow.” Strange world where you can bottle it regularly and keep your job without some kind of demotion or censure.

[eamonn]

Konsa is beginning to get on my nerves. He's no leader at the back and is shaky with the ball at his feet, always playing for a dubious free kick when he's pressured.

[pelty]

Konsa is beginning to get on my nerves. He's no leader at the back and is shaky with the ball at his feet, always playing for a dubious free kick when he's pressured.

Agree that Konsa does not seem to be much of a vocal leader, but I think Konsa is one of the least of our concerns defensively.

[ChicagoLion]

Konsa is beginning to get on my nerves. He's no leader at the back and is shaky with the ball at his feet, always playing for a dubious free kick when he's pressured.

Agree that Konsa does not seem to be much of a vocal leader, but I think Konsa is one of the least of our concerns defensively.

He has been pretty poor recently.

[pelty]

Konsa is beginning to get on my nerves. He's no leader at the back and is shaky with the ball at his feet, always playing for a dubious free kick when he's pressured.

Agree that Konsa does not seem to be much of a vocal leader, but I think Konsa is one of the least of our concerns defensively.

He has been pretty poor recently.

Has he been poor as a CB? I can recall some shaky RB performances but nothing stands out too much when he has been in his preferred position. I may be forgetting something, though.

[kippaxvilla2]

Why do Villa seem to have a perpetual problem at right back?  MO’N bought about 40 Right Backs and he still played Mellberg there.

[VillaTim]

Thought MON was a LB collector

[Skerra]

Unai said it all in his interview. We were in control for 70 minutes but then Forest made substitutions and started to press us high up the pitch and so the momentum swung to them. Actually, I’m surprised that not all teams have caught on to that. It’s the best way to beat Villa. Let them piss about at the back and drop off for a while. Then, change tactics and start to press us high. Will usually get a result against us if other teams do this. Not rocket science!