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Offline LeeB

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Re: RB Leipzig vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #255 on: December 11, 2024, 12:10:59 PM »
Win in Monaco and top 8 is assured, because we will batter Celtic in the last game.

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Re: RB Leipzig vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #256 on: December 11, 2024, 12:11:53 PM »
A far bigger dilemma is Torres' ongoing malaise.

He's approaching 18 months in English football and the issues spoken about last season still show themselves time and again; lack of strength on the ball, lack of recovery pace, weakness in the air and tendency to ballwatch. 

He could have Beckenbauer-like ability of the ball and it would be hard find a starting place for him in the modern game as a centre half with the above deficiencies.

Part of the upturn in form we seen when Emery joined was solidity at the back and better defensive organisation. So the manager can set teams up that way. He has shown it.

But if having that Torres-like ability to bring the ball out from the back start attacks is key to his vision he might need to find a better player than Pau (with more rounded defensive skills) to do it.

I think Torres + Mings/Konsa in a 3 will work well as those two essentially negate the flaws he has in his game. Torres with Carlos is a train wreck against transitional teams as neither of them can defend space in the way Mings can with his pace and physicality.

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Re: RB Leipzig vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #257 on: December 11, 2024, 12:13:42 PM »
Point of order, they're not tins anymore they're plastic.

You can still buy the metal tins. So obviously the main point of my serious post remains intact!

https://groceries.morrisons.com/products/quality-street-tin/113266438?srsltid=AfmBOooNO0NuLiPQpJ7fpTRPLbkjzNDNoPoGjCqfeSwy-TIi55lEMsgK

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Re: RB Leipzig vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #258 on: December 11, 2024, 12:17:03 PM »
I realise they’re a faceless corporate franchise club that play in a soulless out of town bowl but everything yesterday was so very German and all the better for it.

We walked to the ground which was about a half hour trek, slight annoyance that you weren’t allowed to take in of all things battery charging packs but got them back quickly afterwards, thought the away end was alright plenty of food and drink stalls and concourse wasn’t too packed but maybe a lack of WCs. The safe standing areas were great with a really good rake on the stand. We managed to get out the ground quite quickly so we’re in the first group of shuttle buses back into town which meant I was back in my hotel for 11:20, 30 mins after the final whistle so from an organisational and supporter comfort point of view it was all pretty good.

As a minor point for all those young lads who’ve started throwing beer whenever we score….fuck off you immature little dickheads.

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Re: RB Leipzig vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #259 on: December 11, 2024, 12:19:27 PM »
Hopefully his reply is "none of them because the ****** at Nestle make them and they should be boycotted as much as possible, the baby killing ******".
One of the things I enjoy on H&V is the random twists and turns each thread can sometimes take. But fuck me this was an unexpected twist 😁

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Re: RB Leipzig vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #260 on: December 11, 2024, 12:21:26 PM »

As a minor point for all those young lads who’ve started throwing beer whenever we score….fuck off you immature little dickheads.

+1 for this - Knobheads.

And a special shoutout for the teen knobhead shouting at the police outside the away end pre-match about winning wars, when even the semen that created his father wouldn't have existed at the time?!
Brits abroad.... FFS!

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Re: RB Leipzig vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #261 on: December 11, 2024, 12:27:58 PM »
I know there is a lot of debate about how our defence needs to be better, but I'm slowly coming to terms with the fact that if we're going to pass out from the back, and regularly try to break presses, we are - unfortunately - going to get caught out sometimes.  I'm quite sure Unai and his team have done the maths and believe the benefits outweigh the costs, but it is obviously very disappointing when we lose a goal that could easily have been avoided by "putting your bloody boot through it!".  I have no doubt Emi clears that first goal (the lowest risk option) unless the team is under strict instructions to retain and recycle possession.

It was entirely his mistake, he's the player who can see the pitch, and his call, but I think he makes a different decision if our first instinct is the equivalent of "row Z, dafety first".   But it isn't. We're not that team any more.

The second goal was simply Carlos not being in line with Pau and Konsa when the long ball is played; if he is, Openda is a yard (at least ) offside.  A defensive mistake, but again a risk we take when we play our high-line (which for the most part, is excellent).

Pau could easily have gifted them a third with his pass to Openda in the second half, which again came from us trying to pass out from the back.

That's all a long way of me saying I'm coming to terms with the fact that we sometimes play a high-risk style of football, that is sometimes uncomfortable to watch, and sometimes costs us goals - because it also leads to some of the best football I've seen a Villa team play in decades, so I can live with it.

Would I like more clean sheets, more solid defensive performances? Of course I would.  Do I want that at the expense of our current playing style? Absolutely not.

We play high risk, high reward. First time I saw Villa under Emery in the flesh was the 2-4 reverse v Leicester at start of 2023. We battered them mainly but conceded soft goals even then.
I could see the plan and the intent and knew it would be bumpy.

I'd rather play like this, have the odd mare, Spuds 2nd half, Toon last season and see our players moving the ball, interchanging, keeping their shape and practically every single player in the club or has moved now since Emery took over is worth a helluva a lot more than we paid for them. Like it or not that is important with PSR etc... More so everyone is worth bucketloads more than when Gerrard was fucked off.

Enjoy it - this is the best Villa side to watch in decades. And the results haven't been too shabby the last 2 years.

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Re: RB Leipzig vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #262 on: December 11, 2024, 12:31:55 PM »
The build up for the Duran goal was nearly as sexy as the finish.

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Re: RB Leipzig vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #263 on: December 11, 2024, 12:36:16 PM »
The movement has returned - which seemed to have been missing for our dodgy spell. The goals last night had the same tempo as the goals vs man city and Arsenal last season.

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Re: RB Leipzig vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #264 on: December 11, 2024, 12:36:43 PM »
The build up for the Duran goal was nearly as sexy as the finish.

Yes, the speed from leaving Martinez to the goal was impressive.

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Re: RB Leipzig vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #265 on: December 11, 2024, 12:42:15 PM »
Really enjoyed last night  except for my river was a bit shit as I couldnt get on amazon even thou Id signed for the free trial , need to find another way for the barcode game.

Just like to say well done the youth for that brilliant 4 3 win against Leipzig and qualifying , two late goals in stoppage time :)

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Re: RB Leipzig vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #266 on: December 11, 2024, 12:42:57 PM »
Hopefully his reply is "none of them because the ****** at Nestle make them and they should be boycotted as much as possible, the baby killing ******".
One of the things I enjoy on H&V is the random twists and turns each thread can sometimes take. But fuck me this was an unexpected twist 😁

Do a search on Nestle's antics in Africa, will put you off the company as well.

Offline Flamingo Lane

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Re: RB Leipzig vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #267 on: December 11, 2024, 02:52:56 PM »
Noticeable again last night was the terrible quality of our shooting at goal, notwithstanding Duran's goal (and even that one should have been saved).

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Re: RB Leipzig vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #268 on: December 11, 2024, 03:00:02 PM »
Probably our best performance this season, we opened them up with ease. I'm not sure if it was just that Leipzig were poor but would prefer to think we were good. On paper last night should have been our toughest game.

The first goal conceded was obviously a Martinez error, the second was simply a well worked goal.

Whilst all the talk is about how fragile we look defensively, we also lack the killer instinct at the other end of the pitch. We need to bear in mind we've been successful over the last two seasons because we take risks at the back, sometimes with players who weren't bought to play that system.

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Re: RB Leipzig vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #269 on: December 11, 2024, 03:08:01 PM »
Winning away in this competition is never easy so a good performance and Emery got it spot on with Cash out wide.
We have to get rid of these silly mistakes at the back as we will get punished heavily as we go forward.
Who’d have thought we’d be on 13 points with 2 games to go? Unbelievable really considering the state we were in not so long ago. If we can do some business in January then anything is possible this season.

 


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