Aston Villa vs Brentford Post-Match Thread

[Olneythelonely]

I think Torres has needed competition for his place, now he has i believe we'll see a reaction from him

I hope not. He’s not the leader we need. Konsa and Pau have proved for a season and a half that they are not a good partnership, despite what football illiterates believe.

He only played a massive part in getting us in the Champions League.

We’ll need horses for courses. Pau is a brilliant footballer.

[PeterWithe]

Apart from the instance mentioned where Bailey tried to dribble out of our own box, lost it and gave up, I thought he was good, particularly in tracking back to help Cash. What a difference it makes when we have forward players in form together as all of them were excellent first half with Watkins playing the target man role wonderfully.

We looked back to early UE days, patient with the ball at the back but go through the gears quickly when the opposition over commit to a press, the 3 midfielders all were able to play that quick vertical ball into Rogers and Bailey who both seemed to be starting a little narrower than in previous games.

Subs were a bit of a mixed bag, thought we lost a bit of control with the first 2 who then settled and Duran I thought played with a great maturity toward the end, keeping the ball and really calming things down. Buendia looked after the ball well and Barklay, well, he'll have better cameos.

First half excellent, second far more nervy than it should have been. My MOM, Digne.

[cdbearsfan]

It's nice to have options. Expecting Mings to play 180 minutes a week for the next three months after having over a year out might be asking a bit much. I like Konsa and Mings against Southampton on Saturday. I'd be tempted to pick Carlos and Torres against, say, Man City as they have a different sort of threat, more physical than pacy.

[Bobby Boy]

That was a superb first-half and a little unexpected following recent results and performances. Great to see Mings back and playing with such assurance and that was the Morgan Rogers that we know is there but haven't quite seen this season. Excellent.

However the key for me really is Kamara. Brentford are a more dangerous attacking force than Palace, say, who ran right through us repeatedly but his alertness and footballing intelligence just stopped Brentford at source and allowed us to dictate the tempo and control the game in the first half.

What he does is not showy but without him we are at risk of being overrun. My mom for how he plays but more importantly for what he enables every other player to do.

[olaftab]

Some rubbish on here about pen and offside. It was most definitely a penalty as Ollie was unbalanced with the tug on his arm. There was no interference by Ollie as defender was able to do what he wanted to do, clear the ball. That’s what he would have done 10 times out of 10 in that position regardless of where attacker was.

[cdbearsfan]

But he wouldn't have had to clear the ball if Ollie wasn't there, interfering. It was a definite penalty, though. The only question was whether he was making any attempt to get the ball, he could have had few complaints if he was sent off.

[Bobby Boy]

Some rubbish on here about pen and offside. It was most definitely a penalty as Ollie was unbalanced with the tug on his arm. There was no interference by Ollie as defender was able to do what he wanted to do, clear the ball. That’s what he would have done 10 times out of 10 in that position regardless of where attacker was.

It's all about opinions. I didn't think it was a blatant penalty but understand why it was given and, yeah, he seemed to go for the ball when in an offside position for the 3rd goal.

On another day the decisions are different. Anyway, who cares? We finally saw the Aston Villa that we've been missing.

[olaftab]

I hope not. He’s not the leader we need. Konsa and Pau have proved for a season and a half that they are not a good partnership, despite what football illiterates believe.

🤦🏾 bloody heathen. I hope Pau is back on Saturday or next Tuesday.

[olaftab]

But he wouldn't have had to clear the ball if Ollie wasn't there,

Oh yes he would have because defenders are told to do that, never take a chance on no one being there behind you. (and honestly it was not a pantomime)

[The Edge]

That Damsgaard has got the worst hair in football, his goal should have been chalked off for that reason alone.

He's a Benedictine monk in his spare time.

[olaftab]

About attendance last night,
Edited as in deleted.
Already being discussed ad-nauseam in Heck thread.

[The Edge]

Mings is the captain, not mcginn

Yeah but has he knocked on the managers door and looked him squarely in the eye?

[Nunkin1965]

About attendance last night, I thought we were about 10K short of capacity. Heck’s strategy is biting.
Brentford also had a poor turn out..

Was good to have a chat with a couple of Brentford fans in the Bartons last night.
One attended his first game in 1960, the other 1965.

[saunders_heroes]

Great win last night. Their keeper was outstanding.

[The Edge]

I was surprised the third goal stood and I must admit I wasn't convinced by the pen decision either

The third goal was tight and I was surprised that the lines and protractors weren't bought out so I assumed there was another reason. The defender got a good touch on the ball so could have cleared it maybe? I dunno but after we the disallowed goal against Juve and the denial of a penalty at Anfield when Pau's shirt was being ripped off his back we were due one going our way. As for the pen I'm totally convinced it was the correct decision. Their player got so close to Ollies back while both players were running towards goal it made contact unavoidable once Ollie went to shoot. He knew exactly what he was doing that's why his complaints were pretty muted.