Chelsea 3 Aston Villa 0 Post Match Thread.

[JUAN PABLO]

Starting with Torres.

I’d keep him. He’s excellent at what he does.

agree , just cant defend , so maybe look at a Mings, Torres and Konsa back 3 ,  bring someone in who knows how to defend.   Even Konsa has gone a little off .

[aj2k77]

Prior to Sheff Utd last Christmas we had won 15 home games on the bounce. Since that day we've only won 5 of the next 15 in the league at home.

[Villatillidie25]

Starting with Torres.

I’d keep him. He’s excellent at what he does.

agree , just cant defend , so maybe look at a Mings, Torres and Konsa back 3 ,  bring someone in who knows how to defend.   Even Konsa has gone a little off .

I think that was the original plan. Then Mings got injured, Digne played really well and we spunked nearly £40m we don’t have on a reserve left back.

[VillaTim]

Starting with Torres.

spot on, needs to go the same way as Moreno .

[Risso]

Big fan of Torres, and he's not as bad as his worst run of form, and I would like to see how he does with an actual midfield in front of him.

His good form coincided with having an in form Kamara in front of him. A decent defender shouldn't rely on another player doing all the dirty work for him. Look at the first and third goals today, absolute woeful attempts by Torres to mark/close the attacking player down. Just the sign of a really poor defensive player. Mings might have had the odd brain fart in him, but overall you knew he was usually going to make it as difficult as possible for the opposition players. Torres never gives opposition strikers a difficult game at all, he really is, to quote that sage Sid the Sexist, as soft as a shite in a shite factory.

[VillaTim]

It was terrible. I honestly can't remember the last time we played as badly as that. There's normally one player who escapes criticism. I can't think of one. That's how poor it was.

Fulham A (0-3)

[papa lazarou]

It's simple, we need to roll wor sleeves up.

[pauliewalnuts]

I think we need to roll wor sleeves up, and we'll be there or thereabouts, the players need to look the manager in the eye and be the best versions of themselves, and we need to be more demanding, always seeking to increase our levels. With our supporters.

[VillaTim]

It's simple, we need to roll wor sleeves up.

are the tulips coming up yet

[Dante Lavelli]

That was truly awful. Philogene and Rogers put in two of the most gutless performances we’ve had to endure since the relegation season and the rest of them were just rubbish. Watkins, miss aside, did ok in build up play and Emi, brain fart aside, played alright. Nobody else has anything above a 4 rating.

Rogers is a funny one as he’s an absolute unit so should bully people.  At the moment he’s neither helping out defensively or getting high enough up the pitch to link with Watkins.  So he’s not doing anything. 

I think we need Tielemans as the spare CM with Kamara and Onana behind.  We need to be tough to beat for a bit. Stop the rot.

[Ads]

First time I think I've ever seen 2 players booked for diving in the same game. Any advances on 2 players? About the most remarkable thing I can recall. There was a steam engine in Solihull Station that we've just passed, but I missed it. I can only faintly taste Jaegar and other concoctions from last night. So concludes a forgettable day. Well almost, as Moor Street is still aways from home.

We deserved to lose. That's what happens when you're poor in both boxes. Call me mad, but I'd actually prefer at this point to improve in the other box, the one Watkins missed 3 opportunities in. Yes, it's not either or but I clap my hands when we make a good block, I wave them around when we score.

Chelsea are a better side than they were. Just tighter in what they do, which is what its all about really. Marginal gains and fine margins. Cracking third, suboptimal defending for the other 2 goals and we did our best to gift with seasonal generosity.

The system requires precision to work. Full backs slightly deeper to account for weakness in transition with only Kamara as the pivot and yet this paradoxically creates the imbalance when we attack. The full back is meant to be high and overload, yet if they do they imbalance and if they don't...they imbalance.

When you're consistently attempting to thread the ball through the eye of a needle to set your centre forward away, you inevitably turn the ball over. We are hoisted by our own petard and the midfield isn't equipped to deal with the transition and we're back to the full backs and...you get the point.

A conundrum for Emery to solve and I assume the £80m of players in Maatsen and Onana are part of that solution. As is  Ramsey, for Emery loves a strong runner with the ball throughout his managerial career. One day we'll see them.

Maatsen picks two lines; the high wide for a 5th attacker and curiously that inner central run. I think its time for him now.

Plenty of players out of form, injuries at the wrong time, an away fixture run of Tottenham, Liverpool and Chelsea. Not excuses, just circumstances, it's all it really ever is.

And now we have fresh ones; Brentford, Southampton and Das MK Dons- let's have a good week. It's not about wholesale change, it's about fine tuning. I can think of no better man for the job than Emery to find that accuracy.

[RamboandBruno]

First time I think I've ever seen 2 players booked for diving in the same game. Any advances on 2 players? About the most remarkable thing I can recall. There was a steam engine in Solihull Station that we've just passed, but I missed it. I can only faintly taste Jaegar and other concoctions from last night. So concludes a forgettable day. Well almost, as Moor Street is still aways from home.

We deserved to lose. That's what happens when you're poor in both boxes. Call me mad, but I'd actually prefer at this point to improve in the other box, the one Watkins missed 3 opportunities in. Yes, it's not either or but I clap my hands when we make a good block, I wave them around when we score.

Chelsea are a better side than they were. Just tighter in what they do, which is what its all about really. Marginal gains and fine margins. Cracking third, suboptimal defending for the other 2 goals and we did our best to gift with seasonal generosity.

The system requires precision to work. Full backs slightly deeper to account for weakness in transition with only Kamara as the pivot and yet this paradoxically creates the imbalance when we attack. The full back is meant to be high and overload, yet if they do they imbalance and if they don't...they imbalance.

When you're consistently attempting to thread the ball through the eye of a needle to set your centre forward away, you inevitably turn the ball over. We are hoisted by our own petard and the midfield isn't equipped to deal with the transition and we're back to the full backs and...you get the point.

A conundrum for Emery to solve and I assume the £80m of players in Maatsen and Onana are part of that solution. As is  Ramsey, for Emery loves a strong runner with the ball throughout his managerial career. One day we'll see them.

Maatsen picks two lines; the high wide for a 5th attacker and curiously that inner central run. I think its time for him now.

Plenty of players out of form, injuries at the wrong time, an away fixture run of Tottenham, Liverpool and Chelsea. Not excuses, just circumstances, it's all it really ever is.

And now we have fresh ones; Brentford, Southampton and Das MK Dons- let's have a good week. It's not about wholesale change, it's about fine tuning. I can think of no better man for the job than Emery to find that accuracy.

Well said and all that. As well as Digne has played, we’ve never looked as good under Emery, as when Ramsey and Moreno were rampaging down the left, so agree its time for Maatsen.

And Risso is completely wrong about Torres.

[Risso]

I'm not. He simply can't defend. Go and have a look at the first and third goals again today. Absolutely hopeless, he's just wandering around like a fart in a spacesuit.

[Smirker]

Appalling performance. Very much looks like he's lost the dressing room

Absolutely no chance whatsoever.

[CT Villan]

We were very poor again today and Chelsea won at a canter. At HT I thought Digne and Kamara were our best players, but that changed in the second half when everybody was absolute crap.

Watkins' misses up top are killing our fragile confidence and making us very nervous in possession both in defence and midfield. We are also missing Onana and JJ. Our questionable summer transfer activity has also made us significantly worse, starting XI and squad. All this, and recent results, are combining to drain all confidence out of the team and individual performances have gone to shit. Emery doesn't get off the hook either, he's made mistakes which only exacerbate the problems.

Assuming the injured stay injured, I would bring Mings in for Torres, defending > passing, I would make McGinn (Onana) and Kamara the holding two and push Tielemans to 10 with Rogers (JJ/Maatsen) and Bailey either side. Probably start with Watkins because Duran is not the team player that Ollie can be. I would also tell all of 'em to "Wake the F@#$ up and show some aggression and desire."