Aston Villa v Liverpool - Post-Match Thread

[garyellis]

I thought I'd give the highlights one last look on sky. Go to match highlights and they deemed not to even show the Pau incident. So I go to Ref Watch again on Sky. They show the one angle of it that doesn't actually show the shirt pull properly. The commentator adamant it was a pen cue the two scousers and the referee Dermott Mcdermottface shooting him down and laughing. I'm not going to watch it again as the blatant media bias is really starting to piss me off and I don't wana be one of those conspiracy types.

Almost as if he and they knew he was about to be put under the microscope

[VillaTim]

If they start giving pens for shirt pulling etc on corners / dead balls then we are in for 5-10 penalties per game which isn't really a direction i'd want to go down . In the Wolves game McGinn / Dawson were basically playing rugby at every corner and the Ref just let it all go

It wasn’t some 50/50 pushing and shoving as a corner was taken. It was a shirt pull that clearly prevented Torres from getting to the ball and enabled the defender to clear it. Absolutely a penalty.

so WHY was it not given

[Percy McCarthy]

I thought I'd give the highlights one last look on sky. Go to match highlights and they deemed not to even show the Pau incident. So I go to Ref Watch again on Sky. They show the one angle of it that doesn't actually show the shirt pull properly. The presenter was adamant it was a pen cue the two scousers and the referee Dermott Mcdermottface shooting him down and laughing. I'm not going to watch it again as the blatant media bias is really starting to piss me off and I don't wana be one of those conspiracy types.

Did you watch the short 3 minute version or the extended highlights? They’re available on my telly on a Monday. The show last 26 minutes so you might have better luck with that.

[ChicagoLion]

If they start giving pens for shirt pulling etc on corners / dead balls then we are in for 5-10 penalties per game which isn't really a direction i'd want to go down . In the Wolves game McGinn / Dawson were basically playing rugby at every corner and the Ref just let it all go

It wasn’t some 50/50 pushing and shoving as a corner was taken. It was a shirt pull that clearly prevented Torres from getting to the ball and enabled the defender to clear it. Absolutely a penalty.

so WHY was it not given

In the first 5 minutes Carlos had a VAR check for holding in the penalty area. So I knew that they would not give the Torres decision.

[The Edge]

I thought I'd give the highlights one last look on sky. Go to match highlights and they deemed not to even show the Pau incident. So I go to Ref Watch again on Sky. They show the one angle of it that doesn't actually show the shirt pull properly. The presenter was adamant it was a pen cue the two scousers and the referee Dermott Mcdermottface shooting him down and laughing. I'm not going to watch it again as the blatant media bias is really starting to piss me off and I don't wana be one of those conspiracy types.

Did you watch the short 3 minute version or the extended highlights? They’re available on my telly on a Monday. The show last 26 minutes so you might have better luck with that.

Thanks mate but i could only stomach the 3 minute highlights tbh. But the potential penalty for the shirt pull was surely worthy of being included.

[john2710]

I don't know about anyone else but I turn the volume off as soon as they go I to the "you'll never walk alone" wankfest. It sickening to listen to.

The condescending commentator on TNT was complaining about Martinez taking his time from the start of the game. He also said, something along the lines of,  "Martinez, who calls himself the world's best goalkeeper".

As for the penalty, Torres was in front of the defender & getting to the cross until the defender pulled him back & then cleared the ball. There's no chance they'd cancel the Salah goal & go back to give a penalty no matter how blatant.

[VillaTim]

yeah the commentator was clearly a red . He was almost shouting at Martinez in the first few minutes about time wasting . Awful commentary

[LeeB]

I don't know about anyone else but I turn the volume off as soon as they go I to the "you'll never walk alone" wankfest. It sickening to listen to.

The condescending commentator on TNT was complaining about Martinez taking his time from the start of the game. He also said, something along the lines of,  "Martinez, who calls himself the world's best goalkeeper".

As for the penalty, Torres was in front of the defender & getting to the cross until the defender pulled him back & then cleared the ball. There's no chance they'd cancel the Salah goal & go back to give a penalty no matter how blatant.

He was an absolute knob all game, at that point he was wobbling on that 'the ref needs to get a grip of this so early in the game', like we were time wasting and not trying to suck them in and play through them, ignorant prick.

[Nev]

Darren Fletcher is a Forest fan but like a lot the media, but fell into the trap of almost speaking on behalf of Liverpool fans. To be honest it's classic TNT, jingoistic and embarrassing with their European coverage, unprofessional with their domestic coverage.

It's not a conspiracy against us it's just a really poor way of commentating on a game when you are supposed to be neutral, and their is no counter view from anywhere.....

[Flamingo Lane]

I'm on the verge of giving up my Sky subscription and giving it all up to BT/TNT, this is making me pause, though at the end of the day I daresay the coverage and in particular the commentating these days is equally nauseating whichever broadcaster it comes from.

[VillaTim]

Sky just as bad , for Liverpool games they wheel out Kelly Dalglish, Sturbridge , Redknapp and Carragher on co-comms, it's bacically LTV

[RamboandBruno]

Sky just as bad , for Liverpool games they wheel out Kelly Dalglish, Sturbridge , Redknapp and Carragher on co-comms, it's bacically LTV

Kenny Dalglish’s daughter, can’t recall her surname, is actually a really good presenter and is the main anchor for a lot of sky games, not just the Liverpool games. Same with Redknapp and Carragher in terms of being pundits for a lot of non Liverpool games. The question is more why they don’t have pundits who played for a wider range of clubs.

In terms of commentators, it seems to me its a bit of a lost art really. Oh the for the days of Barry Davies and even Tony blooming Gubba. Most of this current lot are fawning, sensationalist and on many occasions uninformed, but I guess thats what the broadcasters want.