Aston Villa v Liverpool - Post-Match Thread

[waynejames]

I was at that Watford game that was 1 each, i remember it well. I did a little dance on the Holte (the right side)  when we scored (forgive me i was 16). Some older types just looked at me and laughed.

[waynejames]

Correction i was 15!
Yes Steve Hunt scored

[Villa Lew]

Just watched Sky's Ref Watch re the 'foul' on Pau and as expected they all reckon no pen, which of course is nonsense, if the exact situation had been reversed and Liverpool were claiming a pen, would the ref have given it, of course he would and would VAR have backed him up, of course they would.

The 14 managers/ head coaches of the non SKY 6 clubs should get together, ASAP and arrange a meeting with The Referee Association, to demand that any shirt pulling, even for a second, is a pen. We've gotta to a stop to this nonsene.

[PeterWithe]

I didn't think it was a pen either, any of them.

[Demitri_C]

I didn't think it was a pen either, any of them.

The thing that annoyed me was hw didnt award a pen for shirty pull but gave one of our players a yellow for the exact same thing later in the game.  Its the inconsistencies and blatent bias that i dont like

[The Edge]

I didn't think it was a pen either, any of them.

If that was one of our defenders pulling on a Liverpool players shirt in front of the Kop that pen gets given every single time and that's the issue.

[PeterWithe]

I didn't think it was a pen either, any of them.

If that was one of our defenders pulling on a Liverpool players shirt in front of the Kop that pen gets given every single time and that's the issue.

Perhaps. The Ollie one looked like he'd been taking lessons from Kane on England duty, plants his leg so there cant be anything but contact. But yes, I take the point that its inconsistent and irritating because of it. But none of them pens for me.

[eamonn]

I agree. And I'm more disappointed about our concession of goals from our attacks and our inability to test Kwee-veen Kell-e-her more than a couple of headers from corners.

[Villa Lew]

I didn't think it was a pen either, any of them.

If that was one of our defenders pulling on a Liverpool players shirt in front of the Kop that pen gets given every single time and that's the issue.

Yep that's exactly the point I was making. If we get rid of shirt pulling it will stop that.

[The Edge]

I didn't think it was a pen either, any of them.

If that was one of our defenders pulling on a Liverpool players shirt in front of the Kop that pen gets given every single time and that's the issue.

Perhaps. The Ollie one looked like he'd been taking lessons from Kane on England duty, plants his leg so there cant be anything but contact. But yes, I take the point that its inconsistent and irritating because of it. But none of them pens for me.

Ollies dive was ridiculous and so unlike him. He seems like a different player since his wonder strike at the Euros and not for the better. The pull on Pau's shirt is a penalty in my opinion. We would get the foul if it was anywhere else on the pitch hence i think it's a pen.

[PeterWithe]

There is consistent inconsistency, I'd bet you could watch footage of every single PL game this weekend where there is shirt pulling at corners going unpunished that would be penalised elsewhere on the pitch. I'm pretty comfortable for the refs to decide what is excessive and what not.

[Risso]

The contact with Ollie was probably enough for a penalty in my opinion, but his theatrics almost assured it wasn't going to get given. No ref wants to feel like he's being conned, and that's what it looked like with him going down in that over the top manner.

[RamboandBruno]

Steve Hunt scored against Watford, I was one of the 12k or so watching.

Thanks for the reminder, I was at all those three, well all the home games as a 13 year old season ticket holder. Child cruelty but self inflicted as went with my mates

[Monty]

The Torres one either stops the set piece and has it ordered to be taken again, or it's an extremely straightforward foul in the penalty area. It was incredibly obvious for me.

[LeeB]

Steve Hunt scored against Watford, I was one of the 12k or so watching.

Thanks for the reminder, I was at all those three, well all the home games as a 13 year old season ticket holder. Child cruelty but self inflicted as went with my mates

We did all three as well, me and our kid, he was 18 and I was ten.