Ipswich Town vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[rooboy316]

You’re probably right but something seemed to inhibit us in the second half. I initially thought they’d been told to play a containing game which was undone by Konsa’s mistake but according to Unai that wasn’t the case.

Something really did seem off in the second half. Last year we were razor sharp on the counter - yesterday we kept pulling up and slowing down.

When dominating possession we can be really patient in the buildup, while looking for something to open up. Yesterday we did the tippy tappy patience thing, but with no semblance of creating anything from it.

Bailey, cross to Watkins aside, just gets double teamed into dead ends because the opposition knows Konsa won’t overlap or add anything to the attack. The cross worked so well because he put in quickly, which is the only time he tried it.

The entire second half just seemed like we were going to pass it around till full time, with no interest in scoring again.

[KevinGage]

On too many occasions in recent games we’ve been playing the simple, obvious ball in front of a massed defence.

Be that Everton, Wolves or Ipswich.

In two of those games we did - eventually - find other ways to win.

But we do miss Douglas Luiz’s guile, where a disguised pass or ball from deep could open sides up.

[Hookeysmith]

The general feeling on here is as if we had lost

It was not great and Emi did not help with a near post save he should make easily. But we showed our ability and got ourselves into a winning position.

Away from home the home team is always going to bombard us and we should of had better in game management to address the issues

This is why a GK should not be the Captain

[Monty]

All I'd say ahead of this week is that last year, before the two wins in three days against Man City and Arsenal, we drew 2-2 away at Bournemouth.

[Nelly]

A few of ours were really under par here. I thought Onana was nearly totally anonymous, other than a few safe, neat touches. I know Bailey got an assist, but he and Philogene later on were just so weak and easily dispossessed. They just offered so little.

Ipswich are a good side though. They matched and limited us. I guess it's a long season and we don't have the squad for four trophies. We will need to go at 60% sometimes? I have no idea how they manage it.

[Toronto Villa]

We’re less than 2 years removed from being a side headed towards the Championship with many of those same players. We’ve drawn a game at Ipswich in the PL. We didn’t play our best football. It happens. Liverpool, a squad assembled over many years at much great expense, with more talent and experience lost at home to Forest. It happens at this level. We are still learning what it is to operate consistently at the top end of the table after many, many years of regularly appearing at the arse end of it. And speaking of Forest, this feels like that game we lost last year when the sky fell in. That Villa side went on to qualify for the CL. There are many things to improve. That’s ok. It’s part of our evolution and development. But you’d think we got battered yesterday from some of the reactions. We didn’t.

[Chris Smith]

We’re less than 2 years removed from being a side headed towards the Championship with many of those same players. We’ve drawn a game at Ipswich in the PL. We didn’t play our best football. It happens. Liverpool, a squad assembled over many years at much great expense, with more talent and experience lost at home to Forest. It happens at this level. We are still learning what it is to operate consistently at the top end of the table after many, many years of regularly appearing at the arse end of it. And speaking of Forest, this feels like that game we lost last year when the sky fell in. That Villa side went on to qualify for the CL. There are many things to improve. That’s ok. It’s part of our evolution and development. But you’d think we got battered yesterday from some of the reactions. We didn’t.

All that is true but dropping points from a winning position is not something we do very often which clearly frustrated the manager yesterday. This thread by and large reflects that.

[Risso]

We’re less than 2 years removed from being a side headed towards the Championship with many of those same players. We’ve drawn a game at Ipswich in the PL. We didn’t play our best football. It happens. Liverpool, a squad assembled over many years at much great expense, with more talent and experience lost at home to Forest. It happens at this level. We are still learning what it is to operate consistently at the top end of the table after many, many years of regularly appearing at the arse end of it. And speaking of Forest, this feels like that game we lost last year when the sky fell in. That Villa side went on to qualify for the CL. There are many things to improve. That’s ok. It’s part of our evolution and development. But you’d think we got battered yesterday from some of the reactions. We didn’t.

I mean, fair enough, but your own match reactions were:

Very disappointing by the overall performance in midfield and defence. Never gave ourselves a proper chance to establish a cadence in the game through poor decisions and mistakes. We will have games like this in a long season but the overall defensive play is very concerning. Top 4 teams don’t defend this season way and we have been fortunate by the opponents we’ve face in the first 6 games.

Absolute shit today.

I can't say that I've see read much that's more vitriolic than that to be honest.

[Demitri_C]

And you'd be wrong.

Dont see how having to come back from 2 down to beat awful side at home isnt eaxctly a convincing victory

[eamonn]

Transference from emotional threads (i.e match ones) disallowed as unfair!

[brontebilly]

2-1 up, away from home, in the 2nd half. Why is the stand in full back even in the opposition half. At that stage of a Premier league game the defenders should be in shape and looking to shut out any sniff of an attack. We have enough firepower up front to be threatening a 3rd goal without the need for help from defenders.

Lots of complaints on here that we were far too conservative in the second half. If anything Digne's inability to loop outside Ramsey cost us the ability to play more often in their half and get in behind them, Ramsey had to constantly check back out. Up to that mistake, I thought Onana particularly and even Carlos had improved hugely from their first half performances. Ipswich had ran out of ideas. The first half was a basketball type game, we had control in the second half until that horror show of a goal. Taking off Rogers so early was a big mistake too from Emery, he was linking midfield and Watkins.

[eamonn]

He was hurt/injured though, wasn't he (Rogers)?

[Somniloquism]

He was hurt/injured though, wasn't he (Rogers)?

I thought he was threatening to retaliate as the ref was doing f all from the Match Thread chat at the time.

[Ads]

We absolutely played like we were thinking about Wednesday.

[Brend'Watkins]

I'd love to know what the ref was thinking about because he certainly wasn't concentrating on the game.