Gary Shaw - RIP

[tomd2103]

The issue as I see it is that applause is the new way, people are in the groove and just go with it. I think it started with a George Best tribute, and is the new way of doing things. People like it because it's a positive way of celebrating a life.

Trying to stop people showing their appreciation in that way is really hard. Putting the message out, to everyone, that it's a minute's silence is really hard to do, and it only takes one person starting to clap before the whole ground does it.

Remembrance Day is a completely different tone, we're remembering millions of people who died in war and a round of applause just isn't ever going to be appropriate.

The applause also takes away the factor of imbeciles shouting during a minute's silence.  Sad reflection, but it does stop that.  I remember w@nker Manchester United fans (who'd have thought) shouting through the minute's silence for Tony Barton years ago and it spoiling it completely.

[eamonn]

Is there a funeral and when is it?

[john2710]

I prefer a minutes silence, it's much more respectful & appropriate. Spending a minute individual thought about Gary, what he achieved & what he meant to us.

But if they want a minute silence they need to make that clear from the onset before saying anything else, including showing it on the screens. Once they start talking about the person & their achievements it will almost always lead to a round of applause.

I blame Heck.

[Hookeysmith]

I blame Heck

Really?

I hope that is a tongue in cheek comment as there can be a lot put at his door over pricing but i am proud that Villa always seem to be a compassionate and caring club.

Trying to stop people showing their appreciation in that way is really hard. Putting the message out, to everyone, that it's a minute's silence is really hard to do, and it only takes one person starting to clap before the whole ground does it.

100% this - the amount that turn up right on kick off a lot worse for wear it only takes one muppet to start gobbing off and then the crowd turn on him and then booing etc.

The minutes silence for the 11th Nov is well established in British society and it clearly has a presence with the armed forces in attendance and the bugle.

I thought all the little touches were classy.

The reimplementation of the banner "Shaw, to Williams etc"
The photo in the press box where he sat on match day
The videos and big screen images.
The singing from the villa crowd - half of which i would imagine never saw him play.

I really dont see a lot the club could be criticised for TBH

[Pete3206]

For me, his life was celebrated in the way he would have wanted. Warmth, raucous applause and people of all ages, singing his name.

So it went a bit awry, shit happens.

[ChicagoLion]

I think some people have missed the fact that we have a grieving family.
Of course the club should have made sure there wishes were carried out, that was all that mattered.

[Drummond]

Of course the club should have forced 42000, sorry 39000, people to shut up and be silent.

[ChicagoLion]

Of course the club should have forced 42000, sorry 39000, people to shut up and be silent.

You mean putting notifications on the screens instead of trying to flog stuff, or getting the stadium announcer to announce what was going to happen, to maybe switching off the shite music earlier to make the announcement.
Yeh, nothing the club could have done.

[Drummond]

I'm not getting into an argument on this so I'll leave it there.

[jon collett]

Of course the club should have forced 42000, sorry 39000, people to shut up and be silent.

You mean putting notifications on the screens instead of trying to flog stuff, or getting the stadium announcer to announce what was going to happen, to maybe switching off the shite music earlier to make the announcement.
Yeh, nothing the club could have done.

Exactly this. It was about showing class and dignity not being dictated to be a lairy few!

[martyn ellis]

Lovely tribute to Gary from Nigel Kennedy at Ronnie Scott's Jazz Club last night. He dedicated his show (all kitted out in his Villa top as always) to Gary, who he referred to as a great loss and quote - 'a perpetual 18-year-old who never got married and all that kind of stuff but lived life to the full.' Bless him. Great show too.

[Rotterdam]

A fantastic mural on the Witton Pub of Gary.

[PeterWithesShin]

[pauliewalnuts]

Of course the club should have forced 42000, sorry 39000, people to shut up and be silent.

You mean putting notifications on the screens instead of trying to flog stuff, or getting the stadium announcer to announce what was going to happen, to maybe switching off the shite music earlier to make the announcement.
Yeh, nothing the club could have done.

Or sorting it so several thousand more people were in their seats rather than queuing outside because the ticket validation technology is shit.

[Somniloquism]

The picture of the team in front of the 82 mural on the other thread.... they left a gap for the cup*, but they should have also left a gap between Withe and another player for Shaw.

*The gap might have been for Shaw but looks like it was for the trophy to me.