Enzo Barrenechea - on loan at Benfica

[eamonn]

Seems chicken feed. We must be desperate to cobble together £20m or so to try and get in someone half-decent that can compete for a first team place. Soccer sucks.

[ozzjim]

While I would have liked to have seen him play for Villa, Benfica or Sporting makes huge sense if we want to cash in on a future sale. Get a decent small profit now, put a big sell on percentage on him, and let them develop him. If he goes for £30-40m in the future somewhere, we make another few million. It's not the worst place for him to go.

[john2710]

We buy someone for €8m, someone pays his wages for a year, we then sell him for $15m, with a sell on clause.

Let's spend the money on someone else with potential. Specifically in an area of the pitch where we need someone.

[pauliewalnuts]

These deals all look a bit pointless really, given the low figures involved.

[pauliewalnuts]

We buy someone for €8m, someone pays his wages for a year, we then sell him for $15m, with a sell on clause.

Let's spend the money on someone else with potential. Specifically in an area of the pitch where we need someone.

He's just had a standout season with Valencia, and is going to Benfica.

I'm not sure what better definition of 'potential' we're expecting to find, if that's not it.

[Dante Lavelli]

If he was a RW/RB then I’m sure the club would be happy to keep him in the squad. But sod’s law, he plays in the position where were are well stocked for players.  Must mean that Kamara is unlikely to leave this season too.

[john2710]

We buy someone for €8m, someone pays his wages for a year, we then sell him for $15m, with a sell on clause.

Let's spend the money on someone else with potential. Specifically in an area of the pitch where we need someone.

He's just had a standout season with Valencia, and is going to Benfica.

I'm not sure what better definition of 'potential' we're expecting to find, if that's not it.

We don't need players who won't play, our midfield is well stocked. Which defensive midfielder do we sell to make room for him?

[Rudy Can't Fail]

These deals all look a bit pointless really, given the low figures involved.

Yup, €15m with a very small sell-on clause. Great deal for Benfica.

[PeterWithe]

Really doesn't seem the kind of fee or the date we receive it that we are likely to 'need'. This seems more of a gamble than sending him on loan somewhere else or keeping him around the squad until January.

On the brightside I hope this is an indicator that Kamara is signing a contract renewal, we live in hope.

[Percy McCarthy]

These deals all look a bit pointless really, given the low figures involved.

Yup, €15m with a very small sell-on clause. Great deal for Benfica.

It’s about €8.5m on the plus side of the accounts. Haven’t heard what the sell-on clause is.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

These deals all look a bit pointless really, given the low figures involved.

Yup, €15m with a very small sell-on clause. Great deal for Benfica.

It’s about €8.5m on the plus side of the accounts. Haven’t heard what the sell-on clause is.

From what I'm reading, the fee was €12m with a big percentage of the sell-on clause. Benfica it appears have increased the fee but dramatically reduced our percentage. My guess would be 5-10% max.

EDIT: Depending where you read, there's one story from A Bola that is traditionally the sports daily closer to Benfica which is claiming it's Benfica who are offering less but offering us a higher percentage. That said the article hasn't been updated since yesterday morning.

News this morning is linking Forest with him.

[Pat Mustard]

Isn't this just effectively another tranche of the fee for selling Dougie?

[eamonn]

Those Portuguese football tabloids are presumably as reliable as the Spanish ones and the  "Give Me Football"/"Caught Offside" websites - full of shite and invention.

[Duncan Shaw]

All I can say, is I trust our management team to be doing the right thing by the club, just like when they had to wheel and deal and we lost Dougie last season. 

It is what it is, and if they feel 15m euros and whatever add-ons is better to our overall budget than a central midfielder that they have seen close up in training/pre-season tours and then presumably closely monitored his performances at Valencia, then I'm happy to go with that. 

If it's the difference in them being able to strengthen another area in the squad that we are short in or not, then I'm happy to go with that. 

If it points to Kamara not going anywhere, then I'm very happy to go with that.

[Dave]

^ yeah, that feels about right.

And as someone said up-thread, if we'd never heard of Barrenechea before and the circa £8m profit had just been part of the DL transfer last summer, that starts to get towards the sort of figure people would have wanted for him.