Enzo Barrenechea - on loan at Benfica

[brontebilly]

I get the impression we were somewhat over a barrel, when selling Luiz and that some kind of deal had to be found. Hence we’ve taken a gamble on a couple of players that do not appear to be first team ready and are in reality just prospects that we could “bump up” the values for FFP accounting..

At least loan them to PL clubs or promotion chasing championship ones. I don't get point of signing them and before their suitcases are fully unpacked they are getting the Ryanair back to Italy again. 

[chrisw1]

I get the impression we were somewhat over a barrel, when selling Luiz and that some kind of deal had to be found. Hence we’ve taken a gamble on a couple of players that do not appear to be first team ready and are in reality just prospects that we could “bump up” the values for FFP accounting..

At least loan them to PL clubs or promotion chasing championship ones. I don't get point of signing them and before their suitcases are fully unpacked they are getting the Ryanair back to Italy again. 

The point was we needed £50m income on our books and this was the only way Juve were prepared t pay it.

[olaftab]

I noticed that Brazil have omitted Luiz from their squad for the next round of matches. Youngsters like Andre and Gerson are picked ahead of him.

[Accent Guy]

I get the impression we were somewhat over a barrel, when selling Luiz and that some kind of deal had to be found. Hence we’ve taken a gamble on a couple of players that do not appear to be first team ready and are in reality just prospects that we could “bump up” the values for FFP accounting..

At least loan them to PL clubs or promotion chasing championship ones. I don't get point of signing them and before their suitcases are fully unpacked they are getting the Ryanair back to Italy again. 

The point was we needed £50m income on our books and this was the only way Juve were prepared t pay it.

Exactly. If either of the 2 players that came fro Juve ever start a PL game for us I will eat my hate. Not gonna happen. They will be loaned out until they can be sold. PSR really is bollocks.

[brontebilly]

I get the impression we were somewhat over a barrel, when selling Luiz and that some kind of deal had to be found. Hence we’ve taken a gamble on a couple of players that do not appear to be first team ready and are in reality just prospects that we could “bump up” the values for FFP accounting..

At least loan them to PL clubs or promotion chasing championship ones. I don't get point of signing them and before their suitcases are fully unpacked they are getting the Ryanair back to Italy again. 

The point was we needed £50m income on our books and this was the only way Juve were prepared t pay it.

I guess this is probably the truth of it but the squad isn't benefitting one iota and the players in question, including Dobbin, aren't either. We have also lost an outstanding player for what seems like a fraction of what's he was worth to us.

The implementation of PSR is deeply flawed, and the root of all this messing, but I think we are taking the piss this summer.

[Dave]

I get the impression we were somewhat over a barrel, when selling Luiz and that some kind of deal had to be found. Hence we’ve taken a gamble on a couple of players that do not appear to be first team ready and are in reality just prospects that we could “bump up” the values for FFP accounting..

At least loan them to PL clubs or promotion chasing championship ones. I don't get point of signing them and before their suitcases are fully unpacked they are getting the Ryanair back to Italy again.

Pretty sure we're not allowed to sign a player and then loan them to another Premier League club.

So I'm sure that playing in the Champions League for Bologna is going to be better for everyone than him being at Luton or Norwich.

[Monty]

I get the impression we were somewhat over a barrel, when selling Luiz and that some kind of deal had to be found. Hence we’ve taken a gamble on a couple of players that do not appear to be first team ready and are in reality just prospects that we could “bump up” the values for FFP accounting..

At least loan them to PL clubs or promotion chasing championship ones. I don't get point of signing them and before their suitcases are fully unpacked they are getting the Ryanair back to Italy again. 

The point was we needed £50m income on our books and this was the only way Juve were prepared t pay it.

I guess this is probably the truth of it but the squad isn't benefitting one iota and the players in question, including Dobbin, aren't either. We have also lost an outstanding player for what seems like a fraction of what's he was worth to us.

The implementation of PSR is deeply flawed, and the root of all this messing, but I think we are taking the piss this summer.

We directly replaced him, for eerily similar money if you look at the books, after the weird arbitrary deadline passed. You can say 'taking the piss' if you like - I just find it a bit weird that when everyone's calling the rules nonsense, when loads of clubs are doing exactly the same thing, when it's obvious that the system has forced clubs into a ridiculous position where they have to do bizarre transactions too satisfy these strange and arbitrary conditions, that your main thought is 'I know - I shall criticise Aston Villa '.

[Brazilian Villain]

Exactly. If either of the 2 players that came fro Juve ever start a PL game for us I will eat my hate. Not gonna happen.

I'd be looking for an edible hat if I were you.

[Accent Guy]

Exactly. If either of the 2 players that came fro Juve ever start a PL game for us I will eat my hate. Not gonna happen.

I'd be looking for an edible hat if I were you.

You reckon? I would be very surpised if we see either starting a PL game this season and if that's the case, I can't see how they won't be sold following their loans. I suppose if either has a chance it is more lkely to be Enzo but I doubt it very much. We shall see!

[Monty]

Exactly. If either of the 2 players that came fro Juve ever start a PL game for us I will eat my hate. Not gonna happen.

I'd be looking for an edible hat if I were you.

You reckon? I would be very surpised if we see either starting a PL game this season and if that's the case, I can't see how they won't be sold following their loans. I suppose if either has a chance it is more lkely to be Enzo but I doubt it very much. We shall see!

Definitely the other way round. I like Enzo fine but Iling Junior was starting games for Juve in the Champions League while he was holding together an indifferent -and relegated - Frosinone midfield.

[Accent Guy]

Exactly. If either of the 2 players that came fro Juve ever start a PL game for us I will eat my hate. Not gonna happen.

I'd be looking for an edible hat if I were you.

You reckon? I would be very surpised if we see either starting a PL game this season and if that's the case, I can't see how they won't be sold following their loans. I suppose if either has a chance it is more lkely to be Enzo but I doubt it very much. We shall see!

Definitely the other way round. I like Enzo fine but Iling Junior was starting games for Juve in the Champions League while he was holding together an indifferent -and relegated - Frosinone midfield.

You don't think he will go out on loan? Aren't we a bit stacked in his position?

[Monty]

Ah, I understood 'this season' and 'after the loans' wrong. Yeah much more likely Enzo this season, Iling Junior is off to Bologna.

But - and what I was getting at - it's noticeable that the loan agreement is with a CL club and (according to fab Fab) has no buy option. I think he might well be a long term option for us.

[Dave]

Exactly. If either of the 2 players that came fro Juve ever start a PL game for us I will eat my hate. Not gonna happen.

I'd be looking for an edible hat if I were you.

You reckon? I would be very surpised if we see either starting a PL game this season and if that's the case, I can't see how they won't be sold following their loans. I suppose if either has a chance it is more lkely to be Enzo but I doubt it very much. We shall see!

We've got a young winger who is younger than most of the players we consider youth prospects who has been playing regularly for one of the biggest clubs in the world. Until we signed him for a lot of money.

I'm pretty sure that if Louie Barrie or Kaine Kesler-Hayden had started and won the Italian Cup final for Juventus a few months ago we wouldn't be talking about how they would never play a game for us, so why is Iling-Junior different?

[PaulWinch again]

I said Illing-Junior has more chance, and whilst it might be right for them to go on loan it’s still a bit disappointing.

[Mister E]

Exactly. If either of the 2 players that came fro Juve ever start a PL game for us I will eat my hate. Not gonna happen.

I'd be looking for an edible hat if I were you.

You reckon? I would be very surpised if we see either starting a PL game this season and if that's the case, I can't see how they won't be sold following their loans. I suppose if either has a chance it is more lkely to be Enzo but I doubt it very much. We shall see!

Definitely the other way round. I like Enzo fine but Iling Junior was starting games for Juve in the Champions League while he was holding together an indifferent -and relegated - Frosinone midfield.

I-J started a handful of games. Enzo started most games for Frosinone and got a shitload of experience doing that. Barrenechea will get a decent amount of gametime with Villa this season.