Enzo Barrenechea - on loan at Benfica

[JB1811]

Who was the last player we had that never bothered to try?

Danny Drinkwater......

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Who was the last player we had that never bothered to try?

Danny Drinkwater......

Excellent call. Our thoughts on his time at Villa are pretty much how Leeds fans look back on McKennie's time at Elland Road. Big difference is, we've moved on and they were relegated and still stewing in their hatred for him. This seems a more balanced opinion of his time at Leeds:

'Well look at the overall picture.

We have this Weston McKennie, who had fitness and diet problems at Juventus. They couldn't sort it out so they decided to ship him out with an option to buy. Regardless of his issues we decided, and I imagine that Victor Orta and Jesse Marsch were the driving forces, to sign him on loan.

In his time with us WM either couldn't or wouldn't get himself to sort out his fitness problems. On the pitch he never looked fit enough or up for the fight or like he was putting in a shift all of which meant that he was never likely to endear himself to the fans and win them over. They never did. For Leeds he looked a waste of space and was a huge misadventure.

Then there was the hapless Jesse Marsch. All theory and no trousers. Marsch had no clue of how to get WM up to speed and to get the best out of him. Marsch might have thought that the fact that WM was an American International would be an advantage to him added to the matter of that other American International Brendan Aaronson in his midfield. In reality it didn't matter one iota. Both of those players miserably failed to produce and Marsch no idea how to sort it out. Review that second season for us with Jesse in charge and the conclusion you come to is that JM was completely out of his depth. McKennie had zero chance to succeed.

It turned out that Leeds decided, not surprisingly, not to take up the option to buy. Now it seems WM has sorted himself out and is playing well in Italy. Good luck to him. It's all water under the bridge but he wouldn't want to be playing Championship football and he wouldn't be able to last a whole season in the Championship IMHO - it's simply too fast and furious for him.'

[ventnorVillain]

Who was the last player we had that never bothered to try?

Danny Drinkwater......

Steve Hodge

[Tayls_7]

Is it not an explanation for his being something of a salad dodger?

Precisely.

[Dogtanian]

He's committed to bringing 'ranch' to Bodymoor Heath.

Black pudding, pork scratchings, and a good balti are gonna blow this young man's mind.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

He's committed to bringing 'ranch' to Bodymoor Heath.

Black pudding, pork scratchings, and a good balti are gonna blow this young man's mind.

And that's just his breakfast.

[Clampy]

Wait till the cockle man comes round to his local.

[aj2k77]

The last thing we need to do to kick on is start buying players with huge question marks over them like one season in 10 Barkley and a player who's been accused of not trying at a former club. Recipe for disaster and sinking back in to mid table.

[Clampy]

The last thing we need to do to kick on is start buying players with huge question marks over them like one season in 10 Barkley and a player who's been accused of not trying at a former club. Recipe for disaster and sinking back in to mid table.

So much pessimissim and nothing has even happened yet.

[N'ZMAV]

The last thing we need to do to kick on is start buying players with huge question marks over them like one season in 10 Barkley and a player who's been accused of not trying at a former club. Recipe for disaster and sinking back in to mid table.

calm down a bit.

[aj2k77]

The last thing we need to do to kick on is start buying players with huge question marks over them like one season in 10 Barkley and a player who's been accused of not trying at a former club. Recipe for disaster and sinking back in to mid table.

So much pessimissim and nothing has even happened yet.

It's not rocket science, signing dodgy players doesn't improve you. I don't need to watch the first 15 games of Barkley meandering around the pitch to know that. If we don't buy them, great. If we do, mistake.

[Clampy]

The last thing we need to do to kick on is start buying players with huge question marks over them like one season in 10 Barkley and a player who's been accused of not trying at a former club. Recipe for disaster and sinking back in to mid table.

So much pessimissim and nothing has even happened yet.

It's not rocket science, signing dodgy players doesn't improve you. I don't need to watch the first 15 games of Barkley meandering around the pitch to know that. If we don't buy them, great. If we do, mistake.

The window does not close until the end of August and you're panicking and suggesting we might slide down to mid table. Its all a bit silly really.

[villadelph]

The last thing we need to do to kick on is start buying players with huge question marks over them like one season in 10 Barkley and a player who's been accused of not trying at a former club. Recipe for disaster and sinking back in to mid table.

So much pessimissim and nothing has even happened yet.

It's not rocket science, signing dodgy players doesn't improve you. I don't need to watch the first 15 games of Barkley meandering around the pitch to know that. If we don't buy them, great. If we do, mistake.

How many times have you watched McKennie play?

Let’s not just take the received opinion of idiot Leeds fans who’s club were in a death spiral when Weston showed up. He has a good engine, isn’t afraid of making a tackle like Doug and can play more positions. Living in the states and working with a technical partner of US Soccer, I would say his only worrying trait is his second touch. Can be Zaniolo-esque at times with it.. but the work rate stuff and not caring about football is just nonsense.

If Unai can get a tune out of him, which I’m sure he can (if the deal goes through), then we have nothing to worry about. All this projection, fat jokes etc. is just plain stupid.

[Toronto Villa]

He’s not fat. It’s stupid to even suggest he is.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

He’s not fat. It’s stupid to even suggest he is.

He's just got big bones. 84kgs of them to be exact.