Aston Villa vs Spurs post match embarrassment

[john e]

blaming and making Zaniolo some sort of scapegoat is ridiclous though

he came on when we were 2 goal's down and down to 10 men
Konsa was at fault for the first 2 goals in an absolure shit show of a performance but hey lets blame Zaniolo
Bailey and Tielemans were both a waste of a shirt but hey lets blame Zaniolo

but the real culprit was Emery not just for the lineup but for the tactics
he turned into prime David Moyes because thats exactly the team and tactics he would have deployed yesterday, sitting back containing a average Spurs side at home inviting pressure and at half time being happy to play out for the draw
thats why we lost and why we deserved to lose

[ChicagoLion]

blaming and making Zaniolo some sort of scapegoat is ridiclous though

he came on when we were 2 goal's down and down to 10 men
Konsa was at fault for the first 2 goals in an absolure shit show of a performance but hey lets blame Zaniolo
Bailey and Tielemans were both a waste of a shirt but hey lets blame Zaniolo

but the real culprit was Emery not just for the lineup but for the tactics
he turned into prime David Moyes because thats exactly the team and tactics he would have deployed yesterday, sitting back containing a average Spurs side at home inviting pressure and at half time being happy to play out for the draw
thats why we lost and why we deserved to lose

I agree accept  I don’t think Spurs are average, but the set up was totally wrong.

[Martyn Smith]

Spurs fans on Reddit - that great bastion of all things true and pure - are admitting that they don't have a clue how to break down teams who set up like we did in the first half. However, what happens is that said teams then get more adventurous in the second half and what works for Spurs becomes available to them, the opportunity to find space to hit effectively on the fast break.

Maybe Emery saw this and that is why he set up like he did. Perhaps we should have just kept playing the same way. We had the clearer chances in the first half even if we weren't calling the tune in terms of share of the game overall. We may have held Spurs at bay and nicked one on the break

[VillaTim]

We lost the ball meekly high up the pitch leading to goal 1 . Can't remember who it was now .

[Martyn Smith]

Zaniolo may be not up to the standard we need but I thought he was one of the few players showing the right spirit in the second half. He won a corner, possibly two, thanks to attacking press. Sure, only what he's there to do but at least he was - that disgraceful moment when he and Moreno waved the Spurs attack off on their way aside - showing some intent

[john e]

blaming and making Zaniolo some sort of scapegoat is ridiclous though

he came on when we were 2 goal's down and down to 10 men
Konsa was at fault for the first 2 goals in an absolure shit show of a performance but hey lets blame Zaniolo
Bailey and Tielemans were both a waste of a shirt but hey lets blame Zaniolo

but the real culprit was Emery not just for the lineup but for the tactics
he turned into prime David Moyes because thats exactly the team and tactics he would have deployed yesterday, sitting back containing a average Spurs side at home inviting pressure and at half time being happy to play out for the draw
thats why we lost and why we deserved to lose

I agree accept  I don’t think Spurs are average, but the set up was totally wrong.

Yeah they’re not average I agree I got that wrong they are a good side

But and here’s the important bit going into the game we are 5 points ahead and a better goal difference of 6 so we are better than them

[VillaTim]

blaming and making Zaniolo some sort of scapegoat is ridiclous though

he came on when we were 2 goal's down and down to 10 men
Konsa was at fault for the first 2 goals in an absolure shit show of a performance but hey lets blame Zaniolo
Bailey and Tielemans were both a waste of a shirt but hey lets blame Zaniolo

but the real culprit was Emery not just for the lineup but for the tactics
he turned into prime David Moyes because thats exactly the team and tactics he would have deployed yesterday, sitting back containing a average Spurs side at home inviting pressure and at half time being happy to play out for the draw
thats why we lost and why we deserved to lose

I agree accept  I don’t think Spurs are average, but the set up was totally wrong.

Yeah they’re not average I agree I got that wrong they are a good side

But and here’s the important bit going into the game we are 5 points ahead and a better goal difference of 6 so we are better than them

since then though we've lost Kamara long term and Ramsey hasn't been right all season , now McGinn out for 3 crucial games . They will overtake us it seems now.

[RichardBatchelor]

Zaniolo may be not up to the standard we need but I thought he was one of the few players showing the right spirit in the second half. He won a corner, possibly two, thanks to attacking press. Sure, only what he's there to do but at least he was - that disgraceful moment when he and Moreno waved the Spurs attack off on their way aside - showing some intent

I agree. He's wasn't very good, but he got stuck in.

[john e]

blaming and making Zaniolo some sort of scapegoat is ridiclous though

he came on when we were 2 goal's down and down to 10 men
Konsa was at fault for the first 2 goals in an absolure shit show of a performance but hey lets blame Zaniolo
Bailey and Tielemans were both a waste of a shirt but hey lets blame Zaniolo

but the real culprit was Emery not just for the lineup but for the tactics
he turned into prime David Moyes because thats exactly the team and tactics he would have deployed yesterday, sitting back containing a average Spurs side at home inviting pressure and at half time being happy to play out for the draw
thats why we lost and why we deserved to lose

I agree accept  I don’t think Spurs are average, but the set up was totally wrong.

Yeah they’re not average I agree I got that wrong they are a good side

But and here’s the important bit going into the game we are 5 points ahead and a better goal difference of 6 so we are better than them

since then though we've lost Kamara long term and Ramsey hasn't been right all season , now McGinn out for 3 crucial games . They will overtake us it seems now.

Yes, because we’ve waved them by with our containment tactics

[dorsetvillian]

Very bad day at the office. Everything went wrong. At half time I was quite content because Spurs had done fuck all and I was sure one of the many half chances we created first half would work Second half. Two mistakes and sending off later meant a long pissed off journey home. We will miss McGinn just hope it doesn't completely take us in free fall. Ajax is a must win...

[PaulWinch again]

I’ve said this a couple times since the game. I think Unai has slipped into a bit of a negative mindset against the “bigger” sides. Yesterday we set up on the back foot, we have also been very passive in recent beatings at Villa Park. I might be wrong, but if I’m not he needs to shake that off. We’re not a good defensive side, we haven’t been all season really, but we have been really vibrant in attack. If we want to make the top 4 we are going to have to do it on the front foot. Even the 1-0 win against Citeh was built on relentless attacking pressure that meant they couldn’t get out. If we sit back sides will pick us off and we’ll lose what we’re good at.

[Demitri_C]

Blame the manager for that loss not zaniolo. The defensive shape was all wrong. It did not suit baileys style or watkins what soever

We did not play like that at spurs so why he opted this formation ill never know. It was probably emerys biggest tactical mistake since he has been here. Thankfully these mistakes are rare so we cant be too hard on unai

[Risso]

Zaniolo may be not up to the standard we need but I thought he was one of the few players showing the right spirit in the second half. He won a corner, possibly two, thanks to attacking press. Sure, only what he's there to do but at least he was - that disgraceful moment when he and Moreno waved the Spurs attack off on their way aside - showing some intent

That disgraceful moment where he just stood still waving his arms about, that led directly to a goal? That's quite a big 'aside'.

[Chris Smith]

A squad stretched to near breaking point with injuries and a few players performing well below their normal levels then performances like yesterday are always a possibility. Perhaps the tactics might have been different but with the players available to him but I’m not convinced.

Emery has a big job now to get the backup for Thursday and the remainder of the season.

[john e]

I think Emery will go again with the same format against West Ham
If he does It will be a very boring game and we might come away with a point at best