Quote from: RamboandBruno on March 10, 2024, 08:06:46 PMQuote from: Risso on March 10, 2024, 06:28:53 PMQuote from: RamboandBruno on March 10, 2024, 05:04:36 PMQuote from: Risso on March 10, 2024, 04:51:59 PMTwo full seasons for a £50m player? Jesus, I hope not.Bailey might not of cost as much, but is a prime example of the need for patience. As is Luiz to a lesser extent, McGinn has been written off wtc etc.Bailey came into a relegation threatened team and played for Smith and Gerrard. We’ll never achieve anything if we always have to wait two years for a player to come good.I don’t remember Bailey raising his game to the same level as most other players under Unai last year. But I think your right lets write Diaby off.I think some of the frustrations are that unlike clubs like Man City, Liverpool, that can afford to wait for players to blossom, for us to spend close to £50m and a club record, we don’t really have that same luxury which my come fruition this season if we don’t get champions league football and have to sell our most consistent and best players.
Quote from: Risso on March 10, 2024, 06:28:53 PMQuote from: RamboandBruno on March 10, 2024, 05:04:36 PMQuote from: Risso on March 10, 2024, 04:51:59 PMTwo full seasons for a £50m player? Jesus, I hope not.Bailey might not of cost as much, but is a prime example of the need for patience. As is Luiz to a lesser extent, McGinn has been written off wtc etc.Bailey came into a relegation threatened team and played for Smith and Gerrard. We’ll never achieve anything if we always have to wait two years for a player to come good.I don’t remember Bailey raising his game to the same level as most other players under Unai last year. But I think your right lets write Diaby off.
Quote from: RamboandBruno on March 10, 2024, 05:04:36 PMQuote from: Risso on March 10, 2024, 04:51:59 PMTwo full seasons for a £50m player? Jesus, I hope not.Bailey might not of cost as much, but is a prime example of the need for patience. As is Luiz to a lesser extent, McGinn has been written off wtc etc.Bailey came into a relegation threatened team and played for Smith and Gerrard. We’ll never achieve anything if we always have to wait two years for a player to come good.
Quote from: Risso on March 10, 2024, 04:51:59 PMTwo full seasons for a £50m player? Jesus, I hope not.Bailey might not of cost as much, but is a prime example of the need for patience. As is Luiz to a lesser extent, McGinn has been written off wtc etc.
Two full seasons for a £50m player? Jesus, I hope not.
We set up in a manner that showed fear which surprised me. Even though the first half was pretty even it was noticeable how many times the ball ended up back with Emi. We must have passed it back to him 40-50 times during the game.Spurs pressed us hard and we always seemed to be under pressure. We lacked coherence throughout but to be 2-0 down so soon into the second half when Spurs hadn’t really done much was a killer.We’ve tended to come back well after a setback so hopefully Ajax on Thursday will be a different story.
It’s a good job we always play really well and get great results away at West Ham.
Quote from: LeonW on March 10, 2024, 08:14:05 PMQuote from: RamboandBruno on March 10, 2024, 08:06:46 PMQuote from: Risso on March 10, 2024, 06:28:53 PMQuote from: RamboandBruno on March 10, 2024, 05:04:36 PMQuote from: Risso on March 10, 2024, 04:51:59 PMTwo full seasons for a £50m player? Jesus, I hope not.Bailey might not of cost as much, but is a prime example of the need for patience. As is Luiz to a lesser extent, McGinn has been written off wtc etc.Bailey came into a relegation threatened team and played for Smith and Gerrard. We’ll never achieve anything if we always have to wait two years for a player to come good.I don’t remember Bailey raising his game to the same level as most other players under Unai last year. But I think your right lets write Diaby off.I think some of the frustrations are that unlike clubs like Man City, Liverpool, that can afford to wait for players to blossom, for us to spend close to £50m and a club record, we don’t really have that same luxury which my come fruition this season if we don’t get champions league football and have to sell our most consistent and best players.Yes I agree and can see that. I do think though Diaby did look generally really good for the first quarter of the season before admittedly falling away quite badly. So personally i think there is a player there. Anyway probably going down a rabbit hole with this one tonight and it makes no odds really to a pretty demoralising day. We need a really big win on Thursday and then God knows what team selection on Sunday.
Did he go defensive or did he do it so Torres plays like a sweeper knowing they didn't have an out and out striker? Saying playing a back five was defensive is lazy?
On the home support, the atmosphere at early kick offs is often somewhat flat. I used to say that this was due to alcohol deprivation.
Quote from: Risso on March 10, 2024, 08:27:31 PMIt’s a good job we always play really well and get great results away at West Ham.Yeah and it's such a great stadium , piece of piss to get to and from and the away end is up there as one of the best in Western Europe .
Quote from: London Villan on March 10, 2024, 05:13:29 PMI thought our support was dreadful. Most important home game of the season so far and we were subdued and quiet. Like the players its like we don’t know how to act like a top 4 team…That result would have hit the players hard. The crowd didn't sing to pick them up during the match, the odd chorus which very quickly fizzled out. Players like Emi, Dougie and Ollie would have been looking around those literallly EMPTY stands at fulltime thinking 'what's the point'. If we don't get Champions League now, I fear they all could be off, and we're back to square one. Cold, wet, tired, annoyed and now feel like I'm coming down with something. I hate football.
I thought our support was dreadful. Most important home game of the season so far and we were subdued and quiet. Like the players its like we don’t know how to act like a top 4 team…
He played five at the back because he’s run out of midfielders.It was pragmatic. It changed the flow of our play though. Much more over the top and long ball and Bailey is like a fish out of water in the middle. My suspicion is that the wing is Diaby’s best position as well.Not sure how we come back without a midfield
Quote from: VillaTim on March 10, 2024, 08:30:41 PMQuote from: Risso on March 10, 2024, 08:27:31 PMIt’s a good job we always play really well and get great results away at West Ham.Yeah and it's such a great stadium , piece of piss to get to and from and the away end is up there as one of the best in Western Europe . Which are the good away ends in Eastern Europe?
Quote from: RamboandBruno on March 10, 2024, 08:21:51 PMQuote from: LeonW on March 10, 2024, 08:14:05 PMQuote from: RamboandBruno on March 10, 2024, 08:06:46 PMQuote from: Risso on March 10, 2024, 06:28:53 PMQuote from: RamboandBruno on March 10, 2024, 05:04:36 PMQuote from: Risso on March 10, 2024, 04:51:59 PMTwo full seasons for a £50m player? Jesus, I hope not.Bailey might not of cost as much, but is a prime example of the need for patience. As is Luiz to a lesser extent, McGinn has been written off wtc etc.Bailey came into a relegation threatened team and played for Smith and Gerrard. We’ll never achieve anything if we always have to wait two years for a player to come good.I don’t remember Bailey raising his game to the same level as most other players under Unai last year. But I think your right lets write Diaby off.I think some of the frustrations are that unlike clubs like Man City, Liverpool, that can afford to wait for players to blossom, for us to spend close to £50m and a club record, we don’t really have that same luxury which my come fruition this season if we don’t get champions league football and have to sell our most consistent and best players.Yes I agree and can see that. I do think though Diaby did look generally really good for the first quarter of the season before admittedly falling away quite badly. So personally i think there is a player there. Anyway probably going down a rabbit hole with this one tonight and it makes no odds really to a pretty demoralising day. We need a really big win on Thursday and then God knows what team selection on Sunday.I know. He wants to be getting back to his early form and confidence. We want him back to those levels. I think it just comes down to yet another thing that is stacked against us with having to get so many things right just to compete. Our recruitment has largely been very good which is what plays its part in why we are where we are. I think we’re all just frustrated, angry, disappointed, etc.
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