Standard of Refereeing

[Footy-Vill]

Genuine question Footy, have you never done something and the instant you did it you realised you had made a huge mistake?  I know I have.

Oh well in that respect and context ok I understand however as he’s new and everything isn’t that an indication he may not be ready to officiate .
DS I always respect your views and I think you’re very knowledgeable on officials so that’s great point to make regards human error as it were

[Footy-Vill]

Dermot Gallagher Sky sports Ref Watch

INCIDENT: Referee Tony Harrington awarded West Ham a penalty for a challenge from Matty Cash on Tomas Soucek in the box, despite the Aston Villa defender putting a toe on the ball.

DERMOT SAYS: Cash touched the ball, there's no doubt about that. Does touching the ball negate a foul? No.
I do know a lot of people think this isn't a foul. That's why you have to stick with the referee's call because it's so tight.

[stevo_st]

So no assessment on whether Cash was fouled attempting to play the ball, would he have been able to have got the second touch if Soucek hadn’t leant in and tangled with him?

The ballshit stats they come up with on how many VAR decisions that get right and wrong at the end of the season are massively skewed by things like this.
They should exclude all of these new ‘referees calls’ unless they decide to ditch it after it goes against Man U or Liverpool.
Be interesting to see what the stats look like with all the subjective ones taken out from last season.

[N'ZMAV]

the whole system is broken because of incompetence in both on and off the field decisions.
Now we have VAR not interviening as not to undermine the referee. However, the referees haven't had to be sure of their decisions for the past 4 years or so because they had what should have been a fail safe.
There's so much confusion and lack of confidence now.
I watched a EFL game on the weekend and it took out all the uncertaincy in the game - decisions were made there and then and the game just got on with.

it made much more sense.

[sid1964]

If VAR are not getting involved in decisions made by the Ref, is VAR only being used for offsides, and handball for penalties?

[Goldie.7]

I'm no Cash fan but that decision was a disgrace. I honestly can't take football serious anymore. The only saving grace is we'll give away a blatant penalty over the season and because the standard is so poor that will go our way which also is wrong.

Udogie yesterday blatantly pulls back an attacking Leicester player in a good position and no card. None of it makes any sense!

[Brend'Watkins]

The penalty decision, once VAR had seen all 3 angles with the one angle clearly showing Cash getting a toe to the ball they should have just said to the ref’ have a look yourself on the monitor. The issue is then resolved. All this guff about it not being a telling touch or it can still be a foul is nonsense. I’d be much happier if they put their hands up and confessed that they got it wrong.

[Somniloquism]

If VAR are not getting involved in decisions made by the Ref, is VAR only being used for offsides, and handball for penalties?

No because it was involved to overturn the Everton pen which wasn't a penalty. I honestly think they haven't actually changed much apart from they won't spend too much time looking to see if the decision is an obvious error, which they didn't used to anyway unless the "right" teams were involved.

[lovejoy]

Last minute versus Brighton a few seasons Go and Solly March does exactly you the same yet the penalty decision was overturned. When did the laws on the game change?

[Somniloquism]

What law has been changed? The VAR intervention?

[Risso]

It was a terrible decision. A player CAN foul another player despite winning the ball, but you rarely see it, and when you do it's usually a two footed horror challenge where one foot happens to make contact with the ball and the other crunches into the opponent's leg. All that happened with Cash is that he won the ball cleanly, then there was a tangle of legs. Absolutely no foul from Cash whatsoever.

[Footy-Vill]

Ref Watch Aston Villa v Arsenal Match 2 Season 24/25
Michael Oliver selected as the referee. Peter Bankes on VAR duty.

[dcdavecollett]

If 'referee's call' survives the first weeks of the season, we could see more attempted intimidation of refs.

If there's no correction coming from VAR for the key decisions then bullying the ref into getting what you want might become the focus for players/coaches.

[Footy-Vill]

I’m pretty sure I saw Villa supporter Andre Mariner in the seats alongside Villa officials . I wonder if he has an advisor role . He had wired headphones in during the match at West Ham. 

[Footy-Vill]

Ref Watch v Leicester
https://www.skysports.com/football/video/30998/13208437/ref-watch-why-referee-had-to-disallow-leicester-citys-goal-against-aston-villa