Luton vs Aston Villa post-match thread

[pablo_picasso]

Made things easy for ourselves before making things hard for ourselves before saving our own arses.

We can be a bit of a rollercoaster at times.

Weirdly, that John Townley chap reckons we have the 4th best away form in the league now too.

How on earth did that happen? 😂

[PaulWinch again]

Thought Rob Edwards comments post game were pretty balanced. He’s doing a very good job at Luton.

[Demitri_C]

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Seems to not help klopp does it. Only gets 9 minutes injury time when they desperately need a goal then conveniently make a midlstake that helps liverpool win the game. But lets just accept mediocre biased referrees just so we are not "a pathetic club"



No we shouldn’t, that’s what pathetic clubs do. He was overzealous, but we were also giving away stupid fouls (that were fouls) too. The main obvious error on his part was he got it into his head that Menghi was being fair against Ollie, which he wasn’t.
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If the referring performances were not so pathetic then we wouldnt have to write letters demanding answers. Doesnt seem to help klopp much does it as shown today !

[Smithy]

This giving up comfortable leads thing has got to stop at some point, surely? But I do take comfort in the fact that it's probably much easier to coach teams to  maintain levels when they are in the lead, than coaching to get into the lead in the first place.

Would we rather be sat here having won 0-1 with Digne's last minute winner? No chance.  Losing leads hurts, but we're exciting to watch and I'm really enjoying it.

[ChicagoLion]

haha, you tried Oliver.. you crooked prick!

Investigation is required. Biased as fuck

It was one of the most biased refereeing displays I have ever seen.

[Legion]

Incompetent, biased or corrupt?

[PaulWinch again]

He’s not biased is he.

[Meanwood Villa]

A real game of two halves and feels like we've got away with one there. We were a joy to watch first half, so dominant, but massively under the pump in the second. First ever league double over Luton I believe.

[paul_e]

He’s not biased is he.

He's the same ref that sent Doug off in Gerrards last game (which was a truly awful decision).

He's the same ref who seems to always book one of our players for time wasting, I can think of bookings for Young and Emi last season that were both very harsh.

This was rhis first time reffing for us this season, I doubt that is an accident.

[Brazilian Villain]

haha, you tried Oliver.. you crooked prick!

Investigation is required. Biased as fuck

It was one of the most biased refereeing displays I have ever seen.

As someone put it on X, Oliver's day at the office was the worst since John McClane's.

[PaulWinch again]

He’s not biased is he.

He's the same ref that sent Doug off in Gerrards last game (which was a truly awful decision).

He's the same ref who seems to always book one of our players for time wasting, I can think of bookings for Young and Emi last season that were both very harsh.

This was rhis first time reffing for us this season, I doubt that is an accident.

Doesn’t make him biased. I suspect if you go on most fans forums everyone thinks refs are against them, but I don’t think it’s true. They might make poor decisions, but also a lot of calls are pretty subjective. Most of the fouls given against us today I thought were fouls, he could have given more against Luton but I don’t think it’s because he had an agenda.

[paul_e]

Doesn’t make him biased. I suspect if you go on most fans forums everyone thinks refs are against them, but I don’t think it’s true. They might make poor decisions, but also a lot of calls are pretty subjective. Most of the fouls given against us today I thought were fouls, he could have given more against Luton but I don’t think it’s because he had an agenda.

Maybe he doesn't, but he's regularly shit for us and regularly gives poor decisions against. You're happy to say it's not bias I'm not and either way, the alternatives that Legion offered of incompetence or corruption are still on the table. What I find odd is that you are so eager to downplay how poor he was today. It's one of the worst reffing performances I can recall and whether you think we should've played better int he 2nd half or not shouldn't excuse that.

[Brend'Watkins]

Pathetic display by the ref and equally pathetic display by us for 2/3 of the 2nd half with our midfield being over run as Dougie unusually and Tielemans mot so unusually being off par.. Rogers, good first half, less so 2nd as his positioning was all at sea. Too many of their attacks coming down that side. Emery correctly adjusted. At one stage I felt we’d be lucky to hang on for the point, getting the 3 was exactly what top teams do in that situation. A very big and most welcome win. Great display by Ollie, He was pulled, dragged and pushed all over the place with little protection from an incompetent ref. Well deserved MOM.

We need to be at it for the full 90 mins next Sunday.

[rob_bridge]

Thought Rob Edwards comments post game were pretty balanced. He’s doing a very good job at Luton.

A brilliant job overall. He inherited a good position and enhanced it.

[PaulWinch again]

Doesn’t make him biased. I suspect if you go on most fans forums everyone thinks refs are against them, but I don’t think it’s true. They might make poor decisions, but also a lot of calls are pretty subjective. Most of the fouls given against us today I thought were fouls, he could have given more against Luton but I don’t think it’s because he had an agenda.

Maybe he doesn't, but he's regularly shit for us and regularly gives poor decisions against. You're happy to say it's not bias I'm not and either way, the alternatives that Legion offered of incompetence or corruption are still on the table. What I find odd is that you are so eager to downplay how poor he was today. It's one of the worst reffing performances I can recall and whether you think we should've played better int he 2nd half or not shouldn't excuse that.

Conversely I think it’s interesting how you’re keen to downplay how much we were architects in our own struggles. If the ref was incompetent we didn’t do a great job of minimising the impact of his decisions- see how we allowed our left hand side to be completely exposed. I’m not going to get into an argument about this, my view is the ref wasn’t great but it wasn’t some scheme to screw us over and had we replicated the level we hit in the first half we wouldn’t be debating fouls that should/shouldn’t have been given. Luton got back in the game because we dropped off, but great quality from a couple of changes won us the game.