Fulham 1-2 Aston Villa post match pint

[Villan82]

I think they were different games? Ipswich and Sheff Wednesday?

[Mouse Potato]

Very true thoughts those. Yorke for me was my first Villa hero, he really did have it all. I loved Benteke for his sheer presence and ability to dominate a centre back. Watkins is the prime example of Jack Nicklaus (?) expression of “the harder I train the luckier I get”, his all round game has massively improved under Unai.

Shout out for the most naturally talented forward we’ve had in my Villa supporting life though, Dalian Atkinson. What a player he could have been.

Gary Player - "The more I practise, the luckier I get"

[Somniloquism]

I think they were different games? Ipswich and Sheff Wednesday?

Nope, this shows all the GOTM for the GOTY list and the Ipswich one is in there. (As well as the Sheffield Wednesday one). We had four up that season but as it was also the season of rain at Selhurst Park, the winner was already chosen in October.

[Villa Lew]

Re Ref Watch Dermot 'The man who knows everything' Gallagher, thought the ref had an 'Outstanding game'! and thought it was not a pen, so did Stephen Warnock, Sue Smith thought it was a pen, well done Sue.

[Smithy]

I felt sorry for Saunders when he scored against Ipswich with the outrageous lob, only to then be pipped for GOTM by Yorke finishing off an 18 pass (or so) move in the same match

That was my first ever game at VP, I was 17 and only just considered "old enough" to get a train to Birmingham so I could go to a match with a couple of mates. I was sat almost directly behind Saunders' shot.  Talk about being spoiled and not even realising it...

[jon collett]

I think they were different games? Ipswich and Sheff Wednesday?

Nope, this shows all the GOTM for the GOTY list and the Ipswich one is in there. (As well as the Sheffield Wednesday one). We had four up that season but as it was also the season of rain at Selhurst Park, the winner was already chosen in October.

But doesn't contain the Dean Saunders goal against Ipswich which was described as the goal of the decade by John Motson when it happened.

I will never forget watching the trajectory of that goal from the back of the Holte.

[Brazilian Villain]

Very true thoughts those. Yorke for me was my first Villa hero, he really did have it all. I loved Benteke for his sheer presence and ability to dominate a centre back. Watkins is the prime example of Jack Nicklaus (?) expression of “the harder I train the luckier I get”, his all round game has massively improved under Unai.

Shout out for the most naturally talented forward we’ve had in my Villa supporting life though, Dalian Atkinson. What a player he could have been.

Gary Player - "The more I practice, the luckier I get"

Quite right, Gary.

[SoccerHQ]

Re Ref Watch Dermot 'The man who knows everything' Gallagher, thought the ref had an 'Outstanding game'! and thought it was not a pen, so did Stephen Warnock, Sue Smith thought it was a pen, well done Sue.

It was a clear pen.

Bit bemused the Fulham fans all seem to think the ref was completely biased in our favour when we were denied a clear penalty in real time and then from VAR outer space. On another day the Moreno goal could've been given aswell.

From watching the game all I could see Fulham had reasons to complain was the backpass Emi picked up that was just ignored and "only" five minutes added on at the end as we were wasting plenty of time in second half so based on this season that was a pretty low total.

[London Villan]

The added time seems to have gone back to normal after the longer periods earlier in the season.

[eamonn]

The added time seems to have gone back to normal after the longer periods earlier in the season.

Yeah, they make it up as they go along.

[Somniloquism]

But doesn't contain the Dean Saunders goal against Ipswich which was described as the goal of the decade by John Motson when it happened.

I will never forget watching the trajectory of that goal from the back of the Holte.

That was my original point. He scores that lob and the Yorke goal in the same match got the pick for the GOTM. I'm assuming he was in the GOTM competition and they used to get the 0898 numbers to decide it. But it was also the same season as Dalian's dillydally into the box so even if he was rightly chosen for he month, he had no chance for the season anyway.

[SoccerHQ]

The added time seems to have gone back to normal after the longer periods earlier in the season.

There was seven in the first half. Seems to automatically add five minutes if there's a VAR stoppage.

[brontebilly]

Watkins makes the very most of his talent - but is not particularly brilliant at anything except working bloody hard.

There is a very long list of players who if they had his work ethic could have had brilliant careers - Collymore, Carew, Gabby and Carbone are four that come to mind.

I agree with most of your post but highlighted the bit I don't.  I'd say he's brilliant at keeping his concentration and remembering his coaching instruction.  His 2nd goal was an example. He uses that to leave his defender for dead and to get away so he can get in his shot unheeded.  That's a skill very few have in the Prem' and the reason pundits are lauding him as an essential back up at the Euros.

He came short and dragged Diop with him, then spun back into the space which he knew was there and also knew he would still be onside as their defence is not as coached as ours for keeping a line. I haven't seen the offside another person was moaning at him for getting, but I wonder if they did get their line right in a similar situation.

To be fair that was pub league type defending from Diop. Watkins had him bamboozled by then and it made the through ball from Tielemans an easy pass really through a huge gap where Diop should have been. Blatant peno not given too, not sure how that was even a debate and I'd like to see our players make a lot more of those situations.

Watkins played Varane like that the previous game too, he's strong but unlike Gabby hasn't lost his athleticism. Goes short to feet and his hold up play has improved immeasurably. Defender has a decision to make to go tight or let him go. Gabby never had the brain for that kind of forward play.

Offside call did look correct. Moreno one was very tight, good to see him again sneaking around the back. Moreno is a good finisher too, that was a cracking header.

[Clark W Griswold]

But doesn't contain the Dean Saunders goal against Ipswich which was described as the goal of the decade by John Motson when it happened.

I will never forget watching the trajectory of that goal from the back of the Holte.

That was my original point. He scores that lob and the Yorke goal in the same match got the pick for the GOTM. I'm assuming he was in the GOTM competition and they used to get the 0898 numbers to decide it. But it was also the same season as Dalian's dillydally into the box so even if he was rightly chosen for he month, he had no chance for the season anyway.

Sorry to be pedantic but i think the goal you're talking about was against Sheffield Wednesday in a quite majestic performance, 2-0 not flattering us at all. A cracking team, and if we'd have had a couple more in the squad as back up we'd have surely pipped those dirty manc bastards to the title. Well, and if they hadn't had Fergie time in their home game against Sheff Wednesday.

[rob_bridge]

I think they were different games? Ipswich and Sheff Wednesday?

Nope, this shows all the GOTM for the GOTY list and the Ipswich one is in there. (As well as the Sheffield Wednesday one). We had four up that season but as it was also the season of rain at Selhurst Park, the winner was already chosen in October.

Rush one was deflected - typical beeb favouritism