Villa 1 Man. United 2 Post match thread.

[Risso]

In my post right after the game I criticised Emery for taking off Bailey when he and Diaby were tearing their defence a new arsehole. However I've seen elsewhere that Bailey is still not ready for a full 90 minutes so he had to come off. I can't believe I questioned the boss like that. I've calmed down a lot now and looking back we totally bossed them for large parts. I think (hope) we may well have dented their self confidence and I think there's plenty of twists and turns to come in the race for top four. I had a wobble but I'm over it. In Emery I trust.

Bailey played 88 minutes against Chelsea, which is more than 90 with first half stoppage time. So that would appear to be a load of rubbish.

[andyh]

To whoever said Ramsey was poor, you need your head looking at!
Only midfielder we have who is comfortable driving forward with the ball, and that was by far as close to the Ramsey of old we’ve had since his return.
Only player that boiled my piss today was Diego Carlos. The rest played well.
Hate losing to these shits. They all come out of the woodwork.
Onto Fulham, let’s start accruing some points and goals again.

I agree, and especially about Carlos.
What exactly does he do?
Obviously, he is honed from a block of granite, but I have never seen a crunching tackle from him. In fact, he is muscled off the ball so often, he should be embarrassed.
He is poor in the air.
His distribution is awful, and he slows the game down too much.
5th choice CB is about right

[Beard82]

That was absolutely gutting - to be much the better side and somehow lose.

Unfortunately - I think we’ll llook back at the end of the season and see the 6 points we dropped to Man Utd as the reason we didn’t get champions league football.  The padding the win we should have got would have given us would allow us to handle the injuries we have. 

I just really hope that isnt something we end up regretting for years to come.  It felt like today was a chance to show that this time it’s different, and not a false dawn.

We clearly in good hands with the manager and he gets it right far more than he gets it wrong - but the reality is we’ll never have a better chance than this season and it looks like it because of injuries and FFP it will end up being too bigger ask.

Without champions league football we’ll see 1 or 2 of our better players leave - as we desperately need to strengthen the squad and that’s the only way we’ll be able to fund it.

I thought Ramsey was much better today but he luiz, Diaby and Watkins all lacked composure with there chances. 

Cash isn’t good enough - not are Carlos or Langlet.  I am worried about Youri and Diaby - as so far they have both had more bad games than good.  Zanilio is also a waste of space.  The problem with FFP is we can’t afford to get signings wrong and I worry that Diaby is too weak for this league and doesn’t suit the way Unai wants to play him.

Still in a much better place then I dreamed we would do - just feels a shame that we look unable to take such a good opportunity to get champions league as despite all the great work the club is doing - I think this might be our chance as FFP makes the playing field so uneven.

[andyh]

Can anyone explain how rat faced ****** didn’t get booked for blasting the ball away after the ref had blown for a free kick ?

[Axl Rose]

Can anyone explain how rat faced ****** didn’t get booked for blasting the ball away after the ref had blown for a free kick ?

I can, fella.

It starts with c and ends with t

[VillaTim]

Taking Bailey off looks like a massive error . Very bizarre from Unai.

[andyh]

Can anyone explain how rat faced ****** didn’t get booked for blasting the ball away after the ref had blown for a free kick ?

I can, fella.

It starts with c and ends with t

Ahhhhhh. I should have known !!
Hope you are well buddy

[The Edge]

In my post right after the game I criticised Emery for taking off Bailey when he and Diaby were tearing their defence a new arsehole. However I've seen elsewhere that Bailey is still not ready for a full 90 minutes so he had to come off. I can't believe I questioned the boss like that. I've calmed down a lot now and looking back we totally bossed them for large parts. I think (hope) we may well have dented their self confidence and I think there's plenty of twists and turns to come in the race for top four. I had a wobble but I'm over it. In Emery I trust.

Bailey played 88 minutes against Chelsea, which is more than 90 with first half stoppage time. So that would appear to be a load of rubbish.

Just quoting what I was told. I'm off here now because things have been very tetchy tonight.

[Risso]

In my post right after the game I criticised Emery for taking off Bailey when he and Diaby were tearing their defence a new arsehole. However I've seen elsewhere that Bailey is still not ready for a full 90 minutes so he had to come off. I can't believe I questioned the boss like that. I've calmed down a lot now and looking back we totally bossed them for large parts. I think (hope) we may well have dented their self confidence and I think there's plenty of twists and turns to come in the race for top four. I had a wobble but I'm over it. In Emery I trust.

Bailey played 88 minutes against Chelsea, which is more than 90 with first half stoppage time. So that would appear to be a load of rubbish.

Just quoting what I was told. I'm off here now because things have been very tetchy tonight.

Yes but it's blatantly not true.

[amfy]

In my post right after the game I criticised Emery for taking off Bailey when he and Diaby were tearing their defence a new arsehole. However I've seen elsewhere that Bailey is still not ready for a full 90 minutes so he had to come off. I can't believe I questioned the boss like that. I've calmed down a lot now and looking back we totally bossed them for large parts. I think (hope) we may well have dented their self confidence and I think there's plenty of twists and turns to come in the race for top four. I had a wobble but I'm over it. In Emery I trust.

Bailey played 88 minutes against Chelsea, which is more than 90 with first half stoppage time. So that would appear to be a load of rubbish.

Just quoting what I was told. I'm off here now because things have been very tetchy tonight.

Yes but it's blatantly not true.

Maybe 88 on Wednesday and another 90 tonight might have been too much?

I know that’s not what he said but there is a possibility that there’s a truth somewhere in the middle of these 2 extremes?

[Legion]

Aston Villa 1-2 Man Utd: Why Villa will still make the Premier League's top four - Stephen Warnock - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68269251

[brontebilly]

To whoever said Ramsey was poor, you need your head looking at!
Only midfielder we have who is comfortable driving forward with the ball, and that was by far as close to the Ramsey of old we’ve had since his return.
Only player that boiled my piss today was Diego Carlos. The rest played well.
Hate losing to these shits. They all come out of the woodwork.
Onto Fulham, let’s start accruing some points and goals again.

I agree, and especially about Carlos.
What exactly does he do?
Obviously, he is honed from a block of granite, but I have never seen a crunching tackle from him. In fact, he is muscled off the ball so often, he should be embarrassed.
He is poor in the air.
His distribution is awful, and he slows the game down too much.
5th choice CB is about right

He did stop two goals in first 10 minutes. Distribution is poor for sure. Did ok today in comparison to other games. Watkins and Cash to blame for the goals.

[BC54 VFC]

Aston Villa 1-2 Man Utd: Why Villa will still make the Premier League's top four - Stephen Warnock - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68269251

A very considered article; I like Warnock.

[PaulWinch again]

Warnock is a good pundit - whether you agree with him or not (and I hope he’s right in this case!) you can tell he’s always done his research and properly considered what he’s saying.

[Pat McMahon]

In my post right after the game I criticised Emery for taking off Bailey when he and Diaby were tearing their defence a new arsehole. However I've seen elsewhere that Bailey is still not ready for a full 90 minutes so he had to come off. I can't believe I questioned the boss like that. I've calmed down a lot now and looking back we totally bossed them for large parts. I think (hope) we may well have dented their self confidence and I think there's plenty of twists and turns to come in the race for top four. I had a wobble but I'm over it. In Emery I trust.

Bailey played 88 minutes against Chelsea, which is more than 90 with first half stoppage time. So that would appear to be a load of rubbish.

Just quoting what I was told. I'm off here now because things have been very tetchy tonight.

Yes but it's blatantly not true.

Maybe 88 on Wednesday and another 90 tonight might have been too much?

I know that’s not what he said but there is a possibility that there’s a truth somewhere in the middle of these 2 extremes?

I got home at 10:30 and heard on either 5Live or MOTD that Emery confirmed that Bailey was taken off for tactical reasons.