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Author Topic: Kosta Nedeljkovic (out on loan at RB Leipzig)  (Read 51185 times)

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Re: Kosta Nedeljkovic
« Reply #405 on: February 03, 2025, 10:21:14 AM »
Emery clearly doesn't trust him to do what's needed.

Bit odd to make that conclusive a decision on someone who's just turned 19 though. And he's not playing many other 19 year olds. So he clearly trusts Ned more than anyone else of the same age.

Perhaps, but he's hardly used him. Using 'trust' was perhaps the wrong word, I meant more that he didn't want to use him, that he's not ready etc. if we're agreeing and option to buy in the deal it suggests that Emery doesn't really want him.

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Re: Kosta Nedeljkovic
« Reply #406 on: February 03, 2025, 11:59:46 AM »
He featured regularly in pre season and was a sub in our first two games. Indeed he played over an hour against Arsenal.

Hardly anything since then which indicates Unai saw things in that game which he deemed not good enough for the prem and then Bogarde leapfrogged him in the pecking order.

Even though they were poor in the CL Leipzig are a regular top 4 team in Bundesliga so this is a great move for him and he's clearly highly rated in Europe.

I get the feeling this is a ploy by us to get first dibs on Geertruida as we wanted him in the summer and by all accounts he's struggled for them. He is more of the profile we're looking at for RCB/RB so sure he'll still be of interest if he's available.

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Re: Kosta Nedeljkovic
« Reply #407 on: February 03, 2025, 12:02:33 PM »
The fact he's going to Leipzig and not a Championship side suggests he's a little higher thought of than our homegrown players of the same age.

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Re: Kosta Nedeljkovic
« Reply #408 on: February 03, 2025, 12:09:58 PM »
The fact he's going to Leipzig and not a Championship side suggests he's a little higher thought of than our homegrown players of the same age.

Not sure what's the shock. He was starting for Serbia away to Spain as recently as October so a starter for top 15 European nation dosen't tend to end up in second tier leagues

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Re: Kosta Nedeljkovic
« Reply #409 on: February 03, 2025, 12:28:27 PM »
The fact he's going to Leipzig and not a Championship side suggests he's a little higher thought of than our homegrown players of the same age.

Not sure what's the shock. He was starting for Serbia away to Spain as recently as October so a starter for top 15 European nation dosen't tend to end up in second tier leagues

There is no shock. Some think him going on loan means Emery doesn't rate him. I'm pointing out the fact he's gone there suggests he's rated.

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Re: Kosta Nedeljkovic
« Reply #410 on: February 03, 2025, 12:44:46 PM »
The purchase clause is a little odd though.

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Re: Kosta Nedeljkovic
« Reply #411 on: February 03, 2025, 01:19:27 PM »
Am I the only one struggling to understand the logic of the Nedeljkovic signing. We knew he was 17-18 when we signed him and he's clearly good based on getting into the Red Star and Serbia national teams. At the same time Cash has  missed a lot of games, so we have been desperate for a stand-in RB. Despite this his game time has been very limited, while Konsa, Bogarde, Garcia and Uncle Tom Cobley have all started games and underwhelmed at RB.

If I was him I'd be very frustrated and after 2 years I'd be really happy to leave the Villa.

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Re: Kosta Nedeljkovic
« Reply #412 on: February 03, 2025, 01:21:27 PM »
The purchase clause is a little odd though.

I dunno, I guess it just guarantees we get a certain amount for him. If he does really well we don't have to sell him, or if other clubs offer more, we can make more.

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Re: Kosta Nedeljkovic
« Reply #413 on: February 03, 2025, 01:22:47 PM »
I'd agree with you, I thought he'd get a shot at playing more.

I suppose we all just now have to accept that some players are bought for the manager, and some are bought for the accountants.

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Re: Kosta Nedeljkovic
« Reply #414 on: February 03, 2025, 01:24:17 PM »
The purchase clause is a little odd though.

I dunno, I guess it just guarantees we get a certain amount for him. If he does really well we don't have to sell him, or if other clubs offer more, we can make more.

If he does really well, why wouldn't Leipzig just buy him for the price we've agreed to sell him at?
« Last Edit: February 03, 2025, 01:26:47 PM by Dave »

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Re: Kosta Nedeljkovic
« Reply #415 on: February 03, 2025, 01:26:49 PM »
The purchase clause is a little odd though.

I dunno, I guess it just guarantees we get a certain amount for him. If he does really well we don't have to sell him, or if other clubs offer more, we can make more.

If he does really well, why wouldn't Leipzig just buy him?

I don't think the buy clause means we have to accept their offer, does it? If another team bids more we can sell to them. It just sets a price in advance that means if they want to buy him, that's the asking price for them. If he does really well but we're still open to selling, then other clubs showing interest will have to offer more than Liepzig.

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Re: Kosta Nedeljkovic
« Reply #416 on: February 03, 2025, 01:36:23 PM »
The purchase clause is a little odd though.

I dunno, I guess it just guarantees we get a certain amount for him. If he does really well we don't have to sell him, or if other clubs offer more, we can make more.

If he does really well, why wouldn't Leipzig just buy him?

I don't think the buy clause means we have to accept their offer, does it? If another team bids more we can sell to them. It just sets a price in advance that means if they want to buy him, that's the asking price for them. If he does really well but we're still open to selling, then other clubs showing interest will have to offer more than Liepzig.

If we've included in the deal an option to buy him for €15m then they can buy him for €15m. It's there for them to choose to buy him, not to "guarantee a certain amount" of money to us. If they come back and say "we like him, but not for €15m, how about €11m?", then we can say yes or no as we see fit.

But we can't agree €15m as part of this deal and then say in the summer "no, sorry he's actually done pretty well for you so let's make it €20m instead".

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Re: Kosta Nedeljkovic
« Reply #417 on: February 03, 2025, 01:41:03 PM »
The purchase clause is a little odd though.

I dunno, I guess it just guarantees we get a certain amount for him. If he does really well we don't have to sell him, or if other clubs offer more, we can make more.

If he does really well, why wouldn't Leipzig just buy him?

I don't think the buy clause means we have to accept their offer, does it? If another team bids more we can sell to them. It just sets a price in advance that means if they want to buy him, that's the asking price for them. If he does really well but we're still open to selling, then other clubs showing interest will have to offer more than Liepzig.

If we've included in the deal an option to buy him for €15m then they can buy him for €15m. It's there for them to choose to buy him, not to "guarantee a certain amount" of money to us. If they come back and say "we like him, but not for €15m, how about €11m?", then we can say yes or no as we see fit.

But we can't agree €15m as part of this deal and then say in the summer "no, sorry he's actually done pretty well for you so let's make it €20m instead".

OK, but that's not what I said. If another club comes in and says we want him and we'll pay 20m, for example, are we legally bound to sell him for less to Leipzig?

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Re: Kosta Nedeljkovic
« Reply #418 on: February 03, 2025, 01:49:16 PM »
On the balance of probability, I'd say yes we are obligated to sell him to Leipzig for £15m, as thats part of the inducement to Leipzig to take his wages on.

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Re: Kosta Nedeljkovic
« Reply #419 on: February 03, 2025, 01:52:02 PM »
On the balance of probability, I'd say yes we are obligated to sell him to Leipzig for £15m, as thats part of the inducement to Leipzig to take his wages on.

We're obligated to accept their offer, but Ned isn't obligated to sign for them if there are other offers.  Let's say he has an impact similar to the one Maatsen had at Dortmund this time last year, he might have other suitors, and better offers.  We'll still only get £15m from Leipzig, but he may decide his future lies elsewhere (or even back here).

If he plays, and does okay, I expect him to go there in the summer.

 


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