Everton vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[LeeB]

He took a whack early in the game when Ollie just beasted him in the air, then seemed to want to take it out on the other smaller opponents, the wanker.

[Brend'Watkins]

I think Carlos is the current scapegoat - he’s made a couple of mistakes, but he’s generally done ok and he was superb against Arsenal.

You can refer to him as that if you wish.  It was his brain fart that cost us V ManU and almost yesterday but for Emi. He's got mistakes in him and quite clearly a lack of concentration in key moments which lead to those.

[RamboandBruno]

He took a whack early in the game when Ollie just beasted him in the air, then seemed to want to take it out on the other smaller opponents, the wanker.

The Diaby challenge gets worse every time I view it. He’s a man for another time, complete thug.

I don’t generally dislike Everton that much, but that Dyche ball is poison to the eyes, I do hope they slip through the door instead of one of the promoted clubs, preferably Luton.

[martyn ellis]

As for yesterday, Tarkowski should absolutely have been sent off,and could have been more than once. The referee was weak and played to the crowd reaction. If that had been at Villa Park Tarkowski would have seen red for sure.

More than anything yesterday, allowing that thug to stay on the pitch was one of the worse refereeing decisions I've seen in a very long time. Moreno had the good sense to jump up as Tarkowski lunged in otherwise he'd be in Royal Liverpool University Hospital with his season finished. The same goes for the assault on Diaby, he knew exactly what he was doing.

Tarkowski is nothing more than a thug, as Roy Keane pointed out, he knew exactly what he was doing and his challenges were out of control. I love a proper tackle but Tarkowski yesterday was a fcuking disgrace.

Agree with all this and. although I accept that MOTD has a limited time slot, all they talked about last night was Everton's midfield 'box' designed to stop us moving up the pitch and how Calvert-Lewin should have scored against Emi. When will they get people on the programme who are willing to straightforwardly call out disgraceful foul play and dreadful referee and VAR decisions. It does my head in. Not a mention of Villa in all the post-match analysis.

[Mister E]

On the Guardian post-match comments, I linked the way that Tarkowski played with that of his erstwhile colleague, B Mee: both are from the old school, schooled by Dyche, and are regularly reckless. In reffing terms, that should mean a handful of cards each; amazed they don't get as many as they should.

[brontebilly]

He took a whack early in the game when Ollie just beasted him in the air, then seemed to want to take it out on the other smaller opponents, the wanker.

Only for Luiz started a bit of pushing after he flew in Moreno he wouldn't have got booked for that tackle either. As a ref he is weak. He booked Lenglet for absolutely nothing in that incident, just the pub league ref tactic of booking one from each team.

Our players should have gone ballistic after his idiotic late tackle on Watkins to get the second yellow. Bailey made sure Ben Mee got in trouble at Brentford, we need to be a bit more street wise I think.

[Clampy]

Didn't Gerrard try to sign him before he went to Everton?

[LeeB]

Didn't Gerrard try to sign him before he went to Everton?

Yeah, the idiot.

[Somniloquism]

Yep, it seems like the major delay was the belief that Bailey was offside, but they couldn't get a single image of McGinn releasing the ball, AND Bailey along the line.  Hence checking the other potential offside/foul with Lenglet while they tried to get a better image of Bailey (if he was offside/committing a foul, they didn't need the Bailey image). As it was, they did need that image, but it took them almost 4 minutes to get it.  I think he was offside, and the correct decision was made, it but it should not take that long to get to the decision.

It doesn't work like that. All the videos are time synced so they stop on the selection of the ball kicker, then all the other videos are stopped at the same timeframe. They do need to find one with both the defender and Bailey in to draw lines though so that might be the delay.

[VillaTim]

It's just killed the game not being able to celebrate the best part of the game anymore ie a goal

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Our players should have gone ballistic after his idiotic late tackle on Watkins to get the second yellow. Bailey made sure Ben Mee got in trouble at Brentford, we need to be a bit more street wise I think.

Talking of streetwise, Diaby gets fouled in the penalty area but manages to stay on his feet, if he goes down it's a certain penalty though with that clown of a ref it would have gone to VAR first. He immediately gets assaulted by Tarkowski who plays both the ball and the player. Nothing given.

Lesson from yesterday: It pays to cheat because the level of refereeing is so shockingly poor.

[LeeB]

Our players should have gone ballistic after his idiotic late tackle on Watkins to get the second yellow. Bailey made sure Ben Mee got in trouble at Brentford, we need to be a bit more street wise I think.

Talking of streetwise, Diaby gets fouled in the penalty area but manages to stay on his feet, if he goes down it's a certain penalty though with that clown of a ref it would have gone to VAR first. He immediately gets assaulted by Tarkowski who plays both the ball and the player. Nothing given.

Lesson from yesterday: It pays to cheat because the level of refereeing is so shockingly poor.

There was another later in the game on the left wing where Doug got clacked but didn't go over and that gormless shovel with a watch carried on.

[darren woolley]

Not the best game but we come away with a point good away day.

[eamonn]

As soon as Tarkowski "did" Moreno, Luiz came in to remonstrate and then Tarkowski waved-in his big teammates to get stuck-in on his behalf. Cheeky fecker.

[ASHTONVILLA]

Only caught the back end of the match on the radio as had a longer church service than usual (Plough Sunday) and then was dragged to a potential wedding venue afterwards. Good news is that after a thirteen year engagement and two kids we have finally set a date, bad news is I now have a year of being expected to appear interested in wedding planning.

Anyway having now watched the match, I am not unhappy with a hard won away point. For what its worth my Everton supporting mate that works for me thinks we were robbed over the VAR decision. I beg to differ, we didn't do enough to win but a point away against a team that is fighting to stay up and in truth is mid-table in actual real points value, is an OK result.