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Re: No away fans
« Reply #450 on: December 02, 2023, 11:12:22 PM »
Assuming he has been at WMP all that time and not just within multiple forces, the only thing that might have run it close is the Birmingham riots in 2011. But I'm guessing the flares and the injuries involved, plus the viciousness of some of what they did might be it. He isn't the only one stating it is the worst they have seen, that independent advisor on hooliganism stated similar.
Which makes me think it wasnít just the confrontations at the car park gates.
« Last Edit: December 03, 2023, 07:34:57 PM by TonyD »

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #451 on: December 02, 2023, 11:17:43 PM »
Yes. But "bad as it was, it didn't seem to bad" seems to be you going on a couple of videos shown by passing supporters. It could have easily escalated after and the damage in picture elsewhere shows it was all along the fence and not just the gates. The pictures also include where they tried to throw a floodlight stanchion at the Police.

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #452 on: December 02, 2023, 11:29:26 PM »
As a few of us have said, if you weren't on Witton Lane you didn't see anything. I've certainly never known such a sustained attack on the police as that.

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #453 on: December 02, 2023, 11:45:28 PM »
The reason it didnít look so bad to many people was the police doing their job - containing and controlling it.

Iím no fan of WMP but they did a good job in very difficult circumstances

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #454 on: December 02, 2023, 11:48:27 PM »
As a few of us have said, if you weren't on Witton Lane you didn't see anything. I've certainly never known such a sustained attack on the police as that.
Understood - it was a sustained attack.  The rhetoric now makes sense. 

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #455 on: December 03, 2023, 12:06:40 AM »
As a few of us have said, if you weren't on Witton Lane you didn't see anything. I've certainly never known such a sustained attack on the police as that.
Understood - it was a sustained attack.  The rhetoric now makes sense. 

A police statement said it was premeditated.

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #456 on: December 03, 2023, 12:18:44 AM »
As a few of us have said, if you weren't on Witton Lane you didn't see anything. I've certainly never known such a sustained attack on the police as that.
Understood - it was a sustained attack.  The rhetoric now makes sense. 

A police statement said it was premeditated.
Judging by past behaviour by Legia they were right.

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #457 on: December 03, 2023, 12:23:15 AM »
They should be banned.  Letís see what happens
We all know how corrupt UEFA is - especially with their chairman in their gang.

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #458 on: December 03, 2023, 01:50:02 AM »
This ******. All hurt by events this week created a new badge for us.

https://x.com/k3233590/status/1731011351512805642?s=46

It's facing the right way, there's no star. I think they're on to something, the ticket-quibbling, mayonnaise-hurling tarts.

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #459 on: December 03, 2023, 02:02:24 AM »
They should be banned.  Letís see what happens
We all know how corrupt UEFA is - especially with their chairman in their gang.

Knowing what UEFA are like, it really wouldn't surprise me if we got some of the blame from them.

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #460 on: December 03, 2023, 03:02:33 AM »
As a few of us have said, if you weren't on Witton Lane you didn't see anything. I've certainly never known such a sustained attack on the police as that.
Understood - it was a sustained attack.  The rhetoric now makes sense. 

A police statement said it was premeditated.

Clearly, it was premeditated, and the WMP, were prepared.
When the police deploy horses and dogs, that is usually a sign that they expect trouble.
Sadly, these ultra dudes think that if there are no guns on display then it is party time.
TBH, in retrospect, this could have very much worse.

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #461 on: December 03, 2023, 07:05:29 AM »
The fact that officers were drafted in from 5 different forces to be part of one of the biggest ever police operations at Villa Park backs that up.

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #462 on: December 03, 2023, 12:32:23 PM »
WMP have charged 46 men (arsewipes) aged between 21 and 63 with various offences following Thursday nightís game. All but 1 to appear before magistrates in Brum today.
So 1954 were treated badly having done nothing wrong and 840 odd of them at least had valid tickets?

Offline Pat McMahon

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #463 on: December 03, 2023, 12:42:51 PM »
WMP have charged 46 men (arsewipes) aged between 21 and 63 with various offences following Thursday nightís game. All but 1 to appear before magistrates in Brum today.
So 1954 were treated badly having done nothing wrong and 840 odd of them at least had valid tickets?

No. The police wouldnít have nicked everybody who was playing up, just the most aggressive and accessible. If they arrested 46 people I would reckon on at least 5 times as many were involved - based on the way cops used to Nick people in the bad old days.

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #464 on: December 03, 2023, 12:44:22 PM »
WMP have charged 46 men (arsewipes) aged between 21 and 63 with various offences following Thursday nightís game. All but 1 to appear before magistrates in Brum today.
So 1954 were treated badly having done nothing wrong and 840 odd of them at least had valid tickets?

Perhaps you should stop taking your friend's word at face value and look at what everyone else has to say on the subject. 

 


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