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Author Topic: AZ Alkmaar Vs Aston Villa Post-Match  (Read 20874 times)

Offline pablo_picasso

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Re: AZ Alkmaar Vs Aston Villa Post-Match
« Reply #165 on: October 27, 2023, 03:22:25 PM »
I don't see why we don't hire foreign officials to oversee the Premier League.

There would be fewer allegiance issues. Potentially fewer "sky six" bias issues.

And lets face it, a lot of them just seem to be better at it than ours are. Whether thats a training issue, I couldn't say.

But the Premier League claims to be best in most areas of football, so why not pay for the best referees from abroad?

What makes the Premier League anymore important than any other league in the world?? 

PGMOL need to stop hiding behind rule changes and pathetic apologies over mistakes and improve the standard of their officials…if Webb and co can’t or won’t do it then the FAs need to take control of PGMOL

Money.

We have the best players, the best managers & the best owners. For the most part.

Is it fair & balanced?

Probably not.

But the Premier League is big business, so it seems like evolution of the "product" that we should hire the best officials too...

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Re: AZ Alkmaar Vs Aston Villa Post-Match
« Reply #166 on: October 27, 2023, 03:25:37 PM »
Yes re the referee, all the ones I've seen in European games this season are much better than the PL ones. Ours last night was excellent, along with VAR.
This.
With knobs on!

I've been saying this for some time.

The problem in this country is not VAR, or rule changes, it's PGMOL.

As shown in that recent debacle over the Liverpool offside. Such an important decision, and yet you could tell there was no clear process or method of communication in place at all. Just a badly trained rabble talking over themselves like 5th formers in a school council.

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Re: AZ Alkmaar Vs Aston Villa Post-Match
« Reply #167 on: October 27, 2023, 03:40:59 PM »
The problem is that the sky favourites are happy with the current situation because they know there is a (sub)conscious bias in their favour both on the pitch and at Stockley Park. The last thing they want is "neutral" referees.

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Re: AZ Alkmaar Vs Aston Villa Post-Match
« Reply #168 on: October 27, 2023, 03:45:12 PM »
The problem is that the sky favourites are happy with the current situation because they know there is a (sub)conscious bias in their favour both on the pitch and at Stockley Park. The last thing they want is "neutral" referees.

A fair point, in my humble opinion...

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Re: AZ Alkmaar Vs Aston Villa Post-Match
« Reply #169 on: October 27, 2023, 03:47:48 PM »
Saw this on BBC but I must have missed all these opportunities?

Alkmaar spurned several good opportunities before the break, included a gilt-edged chance for top scorer Vangelis Pavlidis when he was clear through on goal.

Did you miss the Kamara mistake then which was the Pavlidis chance? Also, the offside chance and the run through with the shit header to finish were probably their best ones.

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Re: AZ Alkmaar Vs Aston Villa Post-Match
« Reply #170 on: October 27, 2023, 04:18:07 PM »
I don't see why we don't hire foreign officials to oversee the Premier League.

There would be fewer allegiance issues. Potentially fewer "sky six" bias issues.

And lets face it, a lot of them just seem to be better at it than ours are. Whether thats a training issue, I couldn't say.

But the Premier League claims to be best in most areas of football, so why not pay for the best referees from abroad?

What makes the Premier League anymore important than any other league in the world?? 

PGMOL need to stop hiding behind rule changes and pathetic apologies over mistakes and improve the standard of their officials…if Webb and co can’t or won’t do it then the FAs need to take control of PGMOL

He didn't say it is.

But it's a good point, why not get VAR from abroad, because they could be anywhere in the world as long as they have an internet connection. It's not the standard that I have an issue with, it's impartiality. Mike Dean saying he didn't want to overturn his pal's call in game it says everything you need to know.

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Re: AZ Alkmaar Vs Aston Villa Post-Match
« Reply #171 on: October 27, 2023, 04:52:06 PM »
I don't see why we don't hire foreign officials to oversee the Premier League.

There would be fewer allegiance issues. Potentially fewer "sky six" bias issues.

And lets face it, a lot of them just seem to be better at it than ours are. Whether thats a training issue, I couldn't say.

But the Premier League claims to be best in most areas of football, so why not pay for the best referees from abroad?

What makes the Premier League anymore important than any other league in the world?? 

PGMOL need to stop hiding behind rule changes and pathetic apologies over mistakes and improve the standard of their officials…if Webb and co can’t or won’t do it then the FAs need to take control of PGMOL

He didn't say it is.

But it's a good point, why not get VAR from abroad, because they could be anywhere in the world as long as they have an internet connection. It's not the standard that I have an issue with, it's impartiality. Mike Dean saying he didn't want to overturn his pal's call in game it says everything you need to know.

VAR 100%, for me they shouldn’t be referees who also ref a game on same weekend….VAR is a specific role and should be that persons job and they could easily could work across leagues

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Re: AZ Alkmaar Vs Aston Villa Post-Match
« Reply #172 on: October 27, 2023, 05:09:25 PM »
I don't know why ex-pro's aren't used more, especially in the VAR capacity.

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Re: AZ Alkmaar Vs Aston Villa Post-Match
« Reply #173 on: October 27, 2023, 05:10:58 PM »
I don't see why we don't hire foreign officials to oversee the Premier League.

There would be fewer allegiance issues. Potentially fewer "sky six" bias issues.

And lets face it, a lot of them just seem to be better at it than ours are. Whether thats a training issue, I couldn't say.

But the Premier League claims to be best in most areas of football, so why not pay for the best referees from abroad?

I said something similar a few months back. We could also send English refs to Europe for training. Fuck me, some of them really need it.

As for last night, I've just watched the Villa on Tour vlog, it looks like everybody has an extremely good time.

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Re: AZ Alkmaar Vs Aston Villa Post-Match
« Reply #174 on: October 27, 2023, 05:35:54 PM »
I don't know why ex-pro's aren't used more, especially in the VAR capacity.

The majority of ex-pros seem oblivious about the laws of the game when they talk about refereeing decisions

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Re: AZ Alkmaar Vs Aston Villa Post-Match
« Reply #175 on: October 27, 2023, 05:50:45 PM »
Saw this on BBC but I must have missed all these opportunities?

Alkmaar spurned several good opportunities before the break, included a gilt-edged chance for top scorer Vangelis Pavlidis when he was clear through on goal.

Did you miss the Kamara mistake then which was the Pavlidis chance? Also, the offside chance and the run through with the shit header to finish were probably their best ones.
Never felt Pavlidis was going to score but that’s one opportunity not several.

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Re: AZ Alkmaar Vs Aston Villa Post-Match
« Reply #176 on: October 27, 2023, 05:52:34 PM »
I don't know why ex-pro's aren't used more, especially in the VAR capacity.

Can you imagine a plum like Danny Murphy in a VAR room?

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Re: AZ Alkmaar Vs Aston Villa Post-Match
« Reply #177 on: October 27, 2023, 05:55:08 PM »
I don't know why ex-pro's aren't used more, especially in the VAR capacity.
No, please don’t we don’t need that hapless community getting involved. I have never seen two of them agree on a decision or actually get it right unless its staring at them as red as a baboon’s arse.

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Re: AZ Alkmaar Vs Aston Villa Post-Match
« Reply #178 on: October 27, 2023, 06:20:05 PM »
Plenty of retired referees tho rather than ex players

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Re: AZ Alkmaar Vs Aston Villa Post-Match
« Reply #179 on: October 27, 2023, 06:22:05 PM »
I doubt many of the ex-players Shearer and co always advocate for even know the rules.

 


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