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Offline AV84

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1950 on: January 08, 2024, 11:22:42 PM »
Ngonge is being linked with AC Milan now too.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1951 on: January 08, 2024, 11:30:59 PM »
Ngonge is being linked with AC Milan now too.

Must share an agent with Bacuna.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1952 on: January 08, 2024, 11:56:23 PM »
Ngonge is being linked with AC Milan now too.
He's starting to sound like the next Ravel Morrison

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1953 on: January 09, 2024, 08:39:41 AM »
call me old fashioned but i don't like the sound of a right footed left back

Like say, Paolo Maldini.
Left sided Centre Half

Only if you choose to ignore the first nine tenths of his career.

Philip Lahm another right footed no hoper who played regularly at left back. What did he ever win?

Yeah, there's loads of them. Zanetti, Zambrotta, Brehme, Fachetti...

I just picked the obvious one.

.... LeeB...

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1954 on: January 09, 2024, 08:50:06 AM »
call me old fashioned but i don't like the sound of a right footed left back

Like say, Paolo Maldini.
Left sided Centre Half

Only if you choose to ignore the first nine tenths of his career.

Philip Lahm another right footed no hoper who played regularly at left back. What did he ever win?

Yeah, there's loads of them. Zanetti, Zambrotta, Brehme, Fachetti...

I just picked the obvious one.

.... LeeB...

One of the greats.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1955 on: January 09, 2024, 09:33:56 AM »
Monchi will know Spinazzolo from his Roma days.

Literally the only thing I know about Spinazzolo is how good he was at the Euro 2020 tournament (before he did his achilles).  He was really excellent.  But I'm not sure we need another left-back, or should be looking to the future by converting left-backs to right-backs after their 30th birthday.  If Digne was going, and we could get him on a free, then great.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1956 on: January 09, 2024, 10:25:05 AM »
Ngonge is being linked with AC Milan now too.

I would imagine that is AC Milan trying to force the Duran deal more than anything...

Their wing forwards are stacked with top class quality.

Some speak in the media that we are in a race with ManU for Jonathan David from Lille.

He is a player that I mention quite regularly when people asked that daft question "but who is good enough to challenge Watkins?"

Especially when it was asked before this real consistent season that Watkins has had so far.

The David deal would seem strange though, considering he would cost a fair bit & the reason we sold Archer & kept Duran was due to the height difference between the two.

Think David is only 5'8", so about the same height as Archer.

Don't get me wrong, I think David could more than do a job, but going off Emerys actions regarding Archer & Duran, it would be a strange signing when we could have kept Archer for free...

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1957 on: January 09, 2024, 10:41:17 AM »
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The David deal would seem strange though, considering he would cost a fair bit & the reason we sold Archer & kept Duran was due to the height difference between the two.

An assumption or seen it written somewhere? I suspect we sold one and kept the other because of FFP myself as Duran's FFP is over three seasons so approx. 7 mil a season (in simple terms) where Archer's £18 mil is straight on the positive column for the next three years. Plus also Archer wanted main game time which he wasn't going to get at Villa still apart from Cup matches.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1958 on: January 09, 2024, 11:01:27 AM »
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The David deal would seem strange though, considering he would cost a fair bit & the reason we sold Archer & kept Duran was due to the height difference between the two.

An assumption or seen it written somewhere? I suspect we sold one and kept the other because of FFP myself as Duran's FFP is over three seasons so approx. 7 mil a season (in simple terms) where Archer's £18 mil is straight on the positive column for the next three years. Plus also Archer wanted main game time which he wasn't going to get at Villa still apart from Cup matches.

Indeed, the Archer sale was way, way more about FFP than any physical attributes.

For the same reasons Chelsea are looking to sell a player who has started all matches this season bar one for them.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1959 on: January 09, 2024, 11:30:52 AM »
Ngonge is being linked with AC Milan now too.

I would imagine that is AC Milan trying to force the Duran deal more than anything...

Their wing forwards are stacked with top class quality.

Some speak in the media that we are in a race with ManU for Jonathan David from Lille.

He is a player that I mention quite regularly when people asked that daft question "but who is good enough to challenge Watkins?"

Especially when it was asked before this real consistent season that Watkins has had so far.

The David deal would seem strange though, considering he would cost a fair bit & the reason we sold Archer & kept Duran was due to the height difference between the two.

Think David is only 5'8", so about the same height as Archer.

Don't get me wrong, I think David could more than do a job, but going off Emerys actions regarding Archer & Duran, it would be a strange signing when we could have kept Archer for free...

The bold bit is just weird. One of them is a full international with a pretty much 1 in 2 record of 3 1/2 seasons in Ligue 1, the other hadn't scored a top flight goal before this season. Archer may become a top striker but David already is one, they're not comparable.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1960 on: January 09, 2024, 11:31:46 AM »
We get Archer back to sell all over again in the summer.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1961 on: January 09, 2024, 12:32:54 PM »
Ngonge is being linked with AC Milan now too.

I would imagine that is AC Milan trying to force the Duran deal more than anything...

Their wing forwards are stacked with top class quality.


Not sure about that. Ngonge seems to want to stay in Italy, so if there's anything going on there I'd guess it's his agent trying to manufacture a move to one of the bigger SerieA clubs. Force Fiorentina to make a move, maybe.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1962 on: January 09, 2024, 12:46:56 PM »
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The David deal would seem strange though, considering he would cost a fair bit & the reason we sold Archer & kept Duran was due to the height difference between the two.

An assumption or seen it written somewhere? I suspect we sold one and kept the other because of FFP myself as Duran's FFP is over three seasons so approx. 7 mil a season (in simple terms) where Archer's £18 mil is straight on the positive column for the next three years. Plus also Archer wanted main game time which he wasn't going to get at Villa still apart from Cup matches.

I am about 75% sure I read it somewhere regarding options with height, but I may be mistaken.

The strikers that we were reported to be after at the time all had a bit of height about them, so it's probably more assumption than fact.

And the more I think, the less sure I am about that 75%, lol.

The FFP is a claim made by the club, but my trust in what they say lately is not 100%.

And while Im sure it does help, I don't think it's a sustainable way to run a club.

But thats a whole different discussion...

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1963 on: January 09, 2024, 12:57:27 PM »
....it would be a strange signing when we could have kept Archer for free...

The bold bit is just weird. One of them is a full international with a pretty much 1 in 2 record of 3 1/2 seasons in Ligue 1, the other hadn't scored a top flight goal before this season. Archer may become a top striker but David already is one, they're not comparable.

A full international for Canada.

And it all depends on how one rates the French league to say whether French top flight football is stronger than the Championship, where Archers record is exceptional.

I don't disagree that David is already more developed than Archer, & one would expect that, being two years older, but I also think that under the right guidance, Archer could become Davids equal when he hits Davids current age...

I don't think that guidance is at Sheff U though...

But again, that is a whole different discussion & Im not sure I have the energy to argue with you today that they sky isn't blue, because it is more 75% Cyan with a 3% touch of magenta, 2% yellow & 3% black...

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1964 on: January 09, 2024, 12:58:55 PM »
....it would be a strange signing when we could have kept Archer for free...

The bold bit is just weird. One of them is a full international with a pretty much 1 in 2 record of 3 1/2 seasons in Ligue 1, the other hadn't scored a top flight goal before this season. Archer may become a top striker but David already is one, they're not comparable.

A full international for Canada.

And it all depends on how one rates the French league to say whether French top flight football is stronger than the Championship, where Archers record is exceptional.

I don't disagree that David is already more developed than Archer, & one would expect that, being two years older, but I also think that under the right guidance, Archer could become Davids equal when he hits Davids current age...

I don't think that guidance is at Sheff U though...

But again, that is a whole different discussion & Im not sure I have the energy to argue with you today that they sky isn't blue, because it is more 75% Cyan with a 3% touch of magenta, 2% yellow & 3% black...

I think you’ve gone too heavy on the magenta there..<winky thing>

 


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