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Author Topic: Legia Warsaw vs Aston Villa post match thread.  (Read 12162 times)

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Re: Legia Warsaw vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #225 on: September 22, 2023, 10:29:43 AM »
Chambers is definitely not an Emery fullback. Too slow - can't bomb forward, can't chase back.

Why on earth did he play him there then? And he then compounded the error by keeping Chambers on too long when he was the worst player on the pitch by a very long way. Emery's been making some very strange decisions this season so far, and doesn't appear to be learning from his mistakes, which is a concern.

You were happy with the team before k/o

I don't work at Bodymoor Heath like you though so haven't seen Chambers in training.

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Re: Legia Warsaw vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #226 on: September 22, 2023, 10:39:53 AM »
Not the best game we have had I still think we will get through this group.

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Re: Legia Warsaw vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #227 on: September 22, 2023, 10:45:37 AM »
Not to worried about the actual result but the performance especially defensively was alarming

every time this season when we have played a team who want to push forward and attack we have conceded goals and lots of them
it’s the biggest weakness in our team at the moment compounded by the injuries

Chambers last night was woeful, Konsa looks lost without his mate, Lenglet was the invisible man and Digne was Digne
Pau Torres coming into that might make playing out from the back a little easier but he doesn’t really sure it up

Chelsea will score against us on Sunday because our defence is so weak, We’ve just got to hope we score more.

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Re: Legia Warsaw vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #228 on: September 22, 2023, 10:57:26 AM »
I feel some fans have become over confident about our European fixtures, hopes and aspirations  - I recall going to Antwerp and losing 4-1 - on the boat back everyone was saying how we would turn things around at VP - if my memory serves me well - we lost the home leg 1-0 :(

Likewise, the season after winning the European Cup we got well and truly beaten in our "defence" of the title - Juventus at VP  (0-2 ? )

I really hope Emery gets an opportunity to "put us back on the map" - I just think we need to be realistic where we are at and that the current squad, whilst is an improvement is still undergoing a settling in process .

Like many I agree we miss Tyrone  and also the experience of Ashley Young - Hope the fans don`t get on the managers back anytime soon

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Re: Legia Warsaw vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #229 on: September 22, 2023, 10:59:23 AM »
Chambers has been poor most of the time since being here. He’s less of a liability in midfield but is still one. Defensively he’s not the required standard.

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Re: Legia Warsaw vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #230 on: September 22, 2023, 11:04:38 AM »
Chambers has been poor most of the time since being here. He’s less of a liability in midfield but is still one. Defensively he’s not the required standard.

Started really solidly but seems to have fallen further each time he plays now.

We have two problems, and they're unfortunately Mings and Buendia shaped in each case. The defence lacks cohesion without the big man, and the press is failing without the little man.

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Re: Legia Warsaw vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #231 on: September 22, 2023, 11:06:14 AM »
I think it is surprising that a manager renowned for planning and tactical astuteness has been on the wrong end of some right  tonkings so far this season. For me something isn't right.


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Re: Legia Warsaw vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #232 on: September 22, 2023, 11:06:29 AM »
Fucking shambles getting out of there. Proper crush and police handy with their riot shields.
Yes, that was terrible. The 40 mins holdback turned into 80 and yes the coppers with shields, very aggressive and looking for a stripe on the smacked a fan chart no doubt.

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Re: Legia Warsaw vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #233 on: September 22, 2023, 11:12:03 AM »
Chambers is a meat amd two veg stopper who is fine as back up, he’s never really let us down before, I dont think anyone really saw that performance coming, poor with the ball and never got close enough to the bloke he was supposed to be marking.

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Re: Legia Warsaw vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #234 on: September 22, 2023, 11:21:15 AM »
I was a bit concerned at how much time he spent sitting down last night.
I noticed that as well. Totally unlike Unai. Maybe he’s bored with Europa stuff and wants to make his mark in PL?

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Re: Legia Warsaw vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #235 on: September 22, 2023, 11:38:47 AM »
I was a bit concerned at how much time he spent sitting down last night.
I noticed that as well. Totally unlike Unai. Maybe he’s bored with Europa stuff and wants to make his mark in PL?

He looked really angry in a couple of closeups so I don’t think it was boredom.

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Re: Legia Warsaw vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #236 on: September 22, 2023, 11:39:52 AM »
He looked pretty exasperated to me.

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Re: Legia Warsaw vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #237 on: September 22, 2023, 11:43:34 AM »
He looked pretty exasperated to me.
When Catweazle asked him if he was thinking of making a change, I lip-read: "Joder lo sabe. Ya no me importa. Es como si hubiera muertos vivientes aquí."

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Re: Legia Warsaw vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #238 on: September 22, 2023, 11:44:44 AM »

Likewise, the season after winning the European Cup we got well and truly beaten in our "defence" of the title - Juventus at VP  (0-2 ? )


It was 2-1 and I think we had a goal disallowed. And that was the top European competition not the third tier we are in now. Possibly the greatest team to play at Villa park? The World Cup winning Italian team plus Platini and Boniek. it was a great night and we held our own.

Let's be honest this competition we are in is our 4th priority this season. From last night's evidence we don't have the squad to handle it. we have been unlucky with injuries but the signings are not inspiring confidence. what worries me is whether Archer and A Ramsay might have improved things. I hope we are not going to have a lost generation.

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Re: Legia Warsaw vs Aston Villa post match thread.
« Reply #239 on: September 22, 2023, 11:47:04 AM »
That was a pretty tough atmosphere for our first game back after 13 years, with quite a changed team from the Palace game. Some fringe players did themselves no favours last night. Good to see Duran score again though. Not too concerned overall - I've no doubt we'll do Legia at home - 5 more games in the group which will all be a bit easier than that.

It strikes me that the biggest issue occuring game-to-game at the moment is that because we are now needing to rotate the lineup more (and have lost key players to injuries) we've lost some of the chemistry and partnerships that existed on our run last season, where we basically used 13/14 players in 10+ games.

I think its natural to expect some growing pains in this regard, especially in defence. E.g. Konsa has spent most of the last 3 years next to Mings and now he's having to play with a new partner every game. He's looked better for more games with Torres, but with Lenglet looked very shaky last night. I think a lot of these issues will work themselves out as we get more games under our belt.

Got to remember we're attempting a very different challenge to what we did in the league last year - challenge across 3/4 competitions with a full squad rather than focus entirely on a 15-game stretch in the PL with a core starting XI. This is the problem that most teams who aren't Man City face when they get into Europe. It will impact on our performances in the short term, but I trust Emery to bring us up to speed over the next few months. I think we're well placed to really pick up the pace on all fronts later into the season. Ramsey and Moreno getting back up to speed will definitely give us a boost.

 


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