Quote from: pauliewalnuts on September 07, 2023, 10:25:34 PMWhen we talk about the owners putting in hundreds of millions, they have, but they haven’t done it out of an altruistic need to entertain us also please do not ever think these guys are putting in any of their own personal money because they aren't . It's all borrowed money
When we talk about the owners putting in hundreds of millions, they have, but they haven’t done it out of an altruistic need to entertain us
I have no problem with the club maximising revenue, but I really don't think it's acceptable to walk on filthy floors, sit in filthy stands and piss into blocked urinals.
Quote from: Skerra on September 07, 2023, 09:58:07 PMAshton, I haven’t got £1,000 never mind £100 million. However, if I had our owners amount of wealth, £100 million would be loose change and, if they were to sell the club to new buyers, I’ve no doubt they would recoup more than they’ve put in. Please don’t feel sorry for them, feel sorry for the ordinary fan who can no longer afford to attend Villa matches. At the moment, I can just about afford my season ticket but, for how much longer depends on any future whopping increases. This, many times over. I don't know if it's reflected amongst real people, or whether I spend too.much time on Twitter, but the sight of Villa supporters saying that if you can't afford a ticket there's plenty who can has saddened me. I've said it before and I still believe it - I wouldn't want success if it meant selling our soul.
Ashton, I haven’t got £1,000 never mind £100 million. However, if I had our owners amount of wealth, £100 million would be loose change and, if they were to sell the club to new buyers, I’ve no doubt they would recoup more than they’ve put in. Please don’t feel sorry for them, feel sorry for the ordinary fan who can no longer afford to attend Villa matches. At the moment, I can just about afford my season ticket but, for how much longer depends on any future whopping increases.
Quote from: VillaTim on September 07, 2023, 11:40:15 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on September 07, 2023, 10:25:34 PMWhen we talk about the owners putting in hundreds of millions, they have, but they haven’t done it out of an altruistic need to entertain us also please do not ever think these guys are putting in any of their own personal money because they aren't . It's all borrowed money You dont seem to like them very much.
To put it in context if you assume the collective net worth of the owners is £10bn £100m is like me spending £48.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on September 07, 2023, 10:09:16 PMQuote from: Skerra on September 07, 2023, 09:58:07 PMAshton, I haven’t got £1,000 never mind £100 million. However, if I had our owners amount of wealth, £100 million would be loose change and, if they were to sell the club to new buyers, I’ve no doubt they would recoup more than they’ve put in. Please don’t feel sorry for them, feel sorry for the ordinary fan who can no longer afford to attend Villa matches. At the moment, I can just about afford my season ticket but, for how much longer depends on any future whopping increases. This, many times over. I don't know if it's reflected amongst real people, or whether I spend too.much time on Twitter, but the sight of Villa supporters saying that if you can't afford a ticket there's plenty who can has saddened me. I've said it before and I still believe it - I wouldn't want success if it meant selling our soul.This. My hard earned cash is worth the same as everyone else’s. I’m simply priced out of football if I could get tickets and gone are the days I might pop down the villa these days. Kudos to those who support every week home and away but for day trippers like me, the early rounds of a cup were the cheap way of getting to a game. Granted I could still attend one or two games but never with any regularity. It has become the expensive hobby. But one with no entry level anymore.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on September 07, 2023, 10:25:34 PMWhen we talk about the owners putting in hundreds of millions, they have, but they haven’t done it out of an altruistic need to entertain us They’ve done it because they think they can make the club worth considerably more than they paid for us. They bought us as a distressed asset for what 60m?The club is worth at least ten times that now. They’ve invested in terms of having a sensible corporate structure, having a decent squad, all of these things and they are great owners. They saved the club. But let’s not forget, they’re not doing this out of the goodness of their hearts. They’re investing to create significant value further down the line. Not because they love the club. Ahem.Quote from: Sexual Ealing on September 07, 2023, 11:37:33 AMYep, whilst it's true the owners 'rescued' us. They did so because they saw a distressed asset that, with investment, would quickly become worth way more than they paid for it. They were right. They clearly know what they're doing.But let's not descend into hero-worshipping a couple of billionaires. They're here to use us to make money. I know that's how it's supposed to work, and we'll have some fun along the way (hopefully). But let's never confuse them for benevolent benefactors. They're not doing us a favour by being here.Honestly, this once-great poster. I'm being sick and my guts ache like mad.
When we talk about the owners putting in hundreds of millions, they have, but they haven’t done it out of an altruistic need to entertain us They’ve done it because they think they can make the club worth considerably more than they paid for us. They bought us as a distressed asset for what 60m?The club is worth at least ten times that now. They’ve invested in terms of having a sensible corporate structure, having a decent squad, all of these things and they are great owners. They saved the club. But let’s not forget, they’re not doing this out of the goodness of their hearts. They’re investing to create significant value further down the line. Not because they love the club.
Yep, whilst it's true the owners 'rescued' us. They did so because they saw a distressed asset that, with investment, would quickly become worth way more than they paid for it. They were right. They clearly know what they're doing.But let's not descend into hero-worshipping a couple of billionaires. They're here to use us to make money. I know that's how it's supposed to work, and we'll have some fun along the way (hopefully). But let's never confuse them for benevolent benefactors. They're not doing us a favour by being here.
Well what improvements should we expect so soon?