The Holte Suite

[Brazilian Villain]

I honestly wish they’d take their billions and piss off back to wear they came from.

That's without a doubt the most stupid thing I've ever seen posted on here.

Apart from when some people claimed Sarah Millican was funny.

[Hookeysmith]

When Chris Heck was appointed on the reputation of turning his Philly team from a multi million dollar franchise to  a multi billion dollar one did anyone think things would get
cheaper?

We expect better food and services and that usually comes at a price anywhere and now in football.

Do you think club owners want champions league football for the glory of winning? It's for obscene TV revenue and the opportunity to charge more.

"The problem with success is you become what you detest"  is very apt

[pauliewalnuts]

I honestly wish they’d take their billions and piss off back to wear they came from.

That's without a doubt the most stupid thing I've ever seen posted on here.

Apart from when some people claimed Sarah Millican was funny.

Yeah but that was so out there, it was obvious they couldn’t really mean it.

[RamboandBruno]

When Chris Heck was appointed on the reputation of turning his Philly team from a multi million dollar franchise to  a multi billion dollar one did anyone think things would get
cheaper?

We expect better food and services and that usually comes at a price anywhere and now in football.

Do you think club owners want champions league football for the glory of winning? It's for obscene TV revenue and the opportunity to charge more.

"The problem with success is you become what you detest"  is very apt

The vast majority of us are getting worse service and food and drink at best the same shite as the last few years. They, whoever they are, the faceless ones, are removing facilities that were available to the majority recently and giving that majority an unspoken choice, either find a way pay lots more (and maybe lots more than many of us can afford) or shut up and put up with queing for over priced crap.

Ranting aside i can sort of put myself in the shoes of those tasked with raising the profile and revenue streams of the club. I can see how the holte suite can be seen for corporatisation, it stinks to me but I can see. Doing it, while leaving the services to the ‘other’ supporters so shoddy, just makes a bad taste even worse.

[Aldridge Villa]

Could never work the Holte Suite out. Seemed ripe for a convivial atmosphere but felt like a soulless airport lounge. However feel for those who frequent and now may have to look elsewhere.

[womble]

If £70 got me a ticket, program, decent food and somewhere to stay a few hours before and after the game I might be the sort of fan they are looking for. That would suite me well. They would have to be selling those tickets months in advance though so I could book plane tickets from Dublin. That can't happen with kick off times not being decided far enough in advance.

Seems to me that there is a tension between the need to make a profit in a club by rinsing it's fans for everything it can. And keeping the essence of football alive. A lot of the appeal of football is that it's accessible to everyone, the working man singing on a terrace, the kids from homes without much money using jumpers as goalposts dreaming of playing professionally. Football needs that to make it worthwhile and interesting. If you can only attract attendance from those with money who may lack some some of the traits that have been associated with football and made it attractive, then eventually it's going to die and you'll have killed your cash cow.

[Hookeysmith]

Wait to see how much the corporate packages will be to be above the  new glass tunnel area they are planning. Spurs and shitty already have in place.

I have said this many times before. Is football any more expensive than seeing a half decent band or artist. If you can actually get an over inflated priced ticket then you will pay more than at football for warm beer, shit food and shittier service.

Back in the summer I went to see Pulp in Sheffield on a Saturday night. Tickets a year previously were face value of £50 - 100. The only ones I could get were £150 each. Of course I was bombarded with hospitality packages ranging  between £600-1500 (somebody was buying them because they were eventually sold out as well)

Concert was fab BTW

[Risso]

Far cry from small boys in the park, jumpers for goalposts. Rush goalie. Two at the back, three in the middle, four up front, one's gone home for his tea. Beans on toast? Possibly, don't quote me on that. Marvellous.

[RamboandBruno]

Wait to see how much the corporate packages will be to be above the  new glass tunnel area they are planning. Spurs and shitty already have in place.

I have said this many times before. Is football any more expensive than seeing a half decent band or artist. If you can actually get an over inflated priced ticket then you will pay more than at football for warm beer, shit food and shittier service.

Back in the summer I went to see Pulp in Sheffield on a Saturday night. Tickets a year previously were face value of £50 - 100. The only ones I could get were £150 each. Of course I was bombarded with hospitality packages ranging  between £600-1500 (somebody was buying them because they were eventually sold out as well)

Concert was fab BTW

Your not planning to see Pulp every two weeks though and you largely know what your going to get. We pay for the Villa through thick and thin, so its a different analogy.
I understand we’re just viewed as consumers, but historically a proportion of us will still be there if the football goes turgid again, they are dicing with the current upward trajectory having some permanence by actively seemingly going out of their way to disengage some of us.

[VillaTim]

After 45 years of going down aston , the whole pricing thing and cost to go and watch them is at breaking point for me. I grew up in a council house played football for the school and Sundays for the local team, coronation league etc. My ST this year is almsost £900 . I can't get tickets to away games now even if I wanted to but the thought of spending hundreds of pounds trapesing around the country and now Europe watching these pampered players earning £150k a week or more isn't sitting right for me. Modern football doesn't work for me . Losing interest

[Nunkin1965]

It might be an idea to start watching non league footy.
That way you get to watch 11 competition winners and maybe one of them will score an absolute banger at a fraction of the cost!!

[amfy]

Wait to see how much the corporate packages will be to be above the  new glass tunnel area they are planning. Spurs and shitty already have in place.

I have said this many times before. Is football any more expensive than seeing a half decent band or artist. If you can actually get an over inflated priced ticket then you will pay more than at football for warm beer, shit food and shittier service.

Back in the summer I went to see Pulp in Sheffield on a Saturday night. Tickets a year previously were face value of £50 - 100. The only ones I could get were £150 each. Of course I was bombarded with hospitality packages ranging  between £600-1500 (somebody was buying them because they were eventually sold out as well)

Concert was fab BTW

Your not planning to see Pulp every two weeks though and you largely know what your going to get. We pay for the Villa through thick and thin, so its a different analogy.
I understand we’re just viewed as consumers, but historically a proportion of us will still be there if the football goes turgid again, they are dicing with the current upward trajectory having some permanence by actively seemingly going out of their way to disengage some of us.

Exactly this. Football prices used to be comparable to cinema tickets - something you might do every week, not the cost of something you might do a couple of times a year.

[Ads]

I wouldn't call a trip to your local world of Cine cheap anymore either.

[wittonwarrior]

relations between the club and the fanbase as low as it could possibly be and has been (been going since mid 70's).

The ticket office is out of tune with supporters (the only one btw that still operates at home), bring in a Yank with all his American ideas to a British public we are european standard on the pitch and Conference North Standard (about Scunthorpe level) off it.

[LeeB]

I reckon there's about 0% chance of me and many of the folk I sit with retaining a ticket in the new North Stand when it's done, it will be built to be a corporate/ enhanced experience cash shitting machine.