Pau Torres

[Somniloquism]

Yes, if a player is not fit, don't put him in the squad. If he is fit, he should not have to wait and "earn his place" against the likes of Lenglet and Diego.

[Risso]

Yes, if a player is not fit, don't put him in the squad. If he is fit, he should not have to wait and "earn his place" against the likes of Lenglet and Diego.

It seems to be the way under Emery. Double the amount of time from his usual estimate of how long an injury will last, and then put them back on the bench for 2-3 weeks before they're properly fit.

[Villan82]

Yes, if a player is not fit, don't put him in the squad. If he is fit, he should not have to wait and "earn his place" against the likes of Lenglet and Diego.

Eh, maybe it isn't quite as simple as that? Maybe he isn't 100%/lacks match sharpness

[Somniloquism]

Yes, if a player is not fit, don't put him in the squad. If he is fit, he should not have to wait and "earn his place" against the likes of Lenglet and Diego.

Eh, maybe it isn't quite as simple as that? Maybe he isn't 100%/lacks match sharpness

Well he isn't going to get match sharpness sitting on the bench. And if he isn't 100% he shouldn't be on the bench.

[AGRIPPA]

Yes, if a player is not fit, don't put him in the squad. If he is fit, he should not have to wait and "earn his place" against the likes of Lenglet and Diego.

It seems to be the way under Emery. Double the amount of time from his usual estimate of how long an injury will last, and then put them back on the bench for 2-3 weeks before they're properly fit.

They need time to get back into match fitness….never seen it before….Pau was thrown in too early a few weeks ago and broke down again….

[DrGonzo]

Yes, if a player is not fit, don't put him in the squad. If he is fit, he should not have to wait and "earn his place" against the likes of Lenglet and Diego.

Eh, maybe it isn't quite as simple as that? Maybe he isn't 100%/lacks match sharpness

Well he isn't going to get match sharpness sitting on the bench. And if he isn't 100% he shouldn't be on the bench.

So who is our bench CB with Mings and Konsa injured?  Torres is probably not ready but willing to play if he absolutely has to.  I'm guessing you aren't a member of our physio team and so probably are guessing at his fitness levels?

[SoccerHQ]

He will start at Fulham and we'll certainly need him to.

[Somniloquism]

I'm seeing our defence being breached and most of our attacks also being shit since he got injured in the battle of brentford. I'm hearing our manager state he is back in the squad. I am seeing him sitting on the bench for the last two home matches when we could do with him on the field instead. If he is so unfit they are worried he will break down again then I don't see why he should be on the bench. It is quite a simple concept.

[DrGonzo]

Ok, so who are you putting on the bench to cover injury to either Lenglet or Carlos?  He's definetley fitter than Konsa or Mings and we don't want Chambers coming on, do we?

[Somniloquism]

And if he has to play because we get an injury to Lenglet or Carlos, and breaks down because he isn't fit and shouldn't be on the bench, who should we play then? So again, if he isn't fit to play, he shouldn't be in the squad. And if he is fit to play, he should be on the field. That is my argument.

We saw what happened when he wasn't fit to play but they still put him on the bench and he was forced to come on.

[DrGonzo]

Can you answer my question please?  Who is our back up CB?  Not trying to be a dck just a genuine question.  We have been unlucky with injuries in this area and don't have the players to fill the spots.

[SoccerHQ]

Can you answer my question please?  Who is our back up CB?

We'd probably try Kamara in that position if we lost a defender early to injury, he played regularly for CB at Marseille a few years back.

With Pau this happened over xmas.

He will start at Fulham 100% I think.

[Somniloquism]

The same backup CB we had in the Sheffield United match when he played all three CB's on the pitch. If Chambers is all we have, then he should be on the bench (as he was against Chelsea) and if we are unfortunate enough that he has to play, then he plays.

[Risso]

Can you answer my question please?  Who is our back up CB?

Who was it today if Torres wasn't fit to play?

[PaulWinch again]

And if he has to play because we get an injury to Lenglet or Carlos, and breaks down because he isn't fit and shouldn't be on the bench, who should we play then? So again, if he isn't fit to play, he shouldn't be in the squad. And if he is fit to play, he should be on the field. That is my argument.

We saw what happened when he wasn't fit to play but they still put him on the bench and he was forced to come on.

Agreed, he’s either fit to play or he isn’t. I can sort of get the first game back in the squad and playing it safe, but if he isn’t ok by the next one why is he there?

As an aside, and I’m sure it’s me exaggerating, but every single time we put a timeframe on an injury it’s always exceeded.