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Offline Somniloquism

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Re: Youri Tielemans
« Reply #1065 on: September 17, 2024, 09:19:44 AM »
His mrs on the other hand got a goal on her debut.

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Re: Youri Tielemans
« Reply #1066 on: September 17, 2024, 09:23:58 AM »
Yes I think Barclay is playing much more like Duggie on form than Youri is, if that makes sense. Barclay is keeping possession, moving the ball, and the opposition, around and out of shape and Youri is more often playing the vertical pass to make chances occur. What is remarkable and very welcome is that his timing of when or not to play that pass has been pretty much perfect.

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Re: Youri Tielemans
« Reply #1067 on: September 17, 2024, 09:25:50 AM »
Tielemans was bought to replace Luiz, wasn't he? (according to Vidagany or Monchi anyway) so far he's doing a good job, and has more versatility to play further forward too.

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Re: Youri Tielemans
« Reply #1068 on: September 17, 2024, 09:29:02 AM »
Tielemans was bought to replace Luiz, wasn't he? (according to Vidagany or Monchi anyway) so far he's doing a good job, and has more versatility to play further forward too.

He just needs to start add ing a few more goals to his play, he's certainly capable of it.

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Re: Youri Tielemans
« Reply #1069 on: September 17, 2024, 09:30:31 AM »
I think it's fair to say that Tielemans is currently playing at a much higher level than Luiz did from January onwards for us. That's not to downplay what Doug did overall in his career for us, but he definitely went off the boil, and it doesn't sound like he's got going at Juvntus yet.
It's been mentioned a few times, but Luiz's form dropped when he had to change role and play as the main DM.  It would be like playing Watkins on the wing and moaning that he doesn't seem to be playing as well.

Either way, Tielemans is doing really well.  But if he was asked to play for a spell as our main DM then it's possible he'd find it tricky too.

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Re: Youri Tielemans
« Reply #1070 on: September 17, 2024, 09:46:19 AM »
I think it's fair to say that Tielemans is currently playing at a much higher level than Luiz did from January onwards for us. That's not to downplay what Doug did overall in his career for us, but he definitely went off the boil, and it doesn't sound like he's got going at Juvntus yet.
It's been mentioned a few times, but Luiz's form dropped when he had to change role and play as the main DM.  It would be like playing Watkins on the wing and moaning that he doesn't seem to be playing as well.

Either way, Tielemans is doing really well.  But if he was asked to play for a spell as our main DM then it's possible he'd find it tricky too.

It's not really the same thing at all though. Luiz has played nearly as many games as a defensive midfielder as he has a more conventional midfield role during his career. Even if it's not his preferred position, the drop off in form shouldn't have been that noticeable. With Emery, it shouldn't be that big a difference anyway, as it's not like he plays 4-2-3-1 like Smith and Gerrard did.

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Re: Youri Tielemans
« Reply #1071 on: September 17, 2024, 09:53:35 AM »
I think it's the same thing.  Luiz has always been better as the more progressive midfielder but has had to play the main DM role a lot due to our lack of depth.  He can do it, but it's not where he excelled. 

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Re: Youri Tielemans
« Reply #1072 on: September 17, 2024, 09:57:56 AM »
As we're mentioning Luiz and Lehmann, apparently she's only paid a couple of Euros a week


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Re: Youri Tielemans
« Reply #1073 on: September 17, 2024, 10:06:13 AM »
Somebody should start a Justgiving page for her, the poor thing. The £50 calendars of her arse can't be selling too well. Saying "we do the same job" is like comparing Taylor Swift with Chesney Hawkes. Both are musicians, but one is infinitely more popular than the other, and so gets paid more.

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Re: Youri Tielemans
« Reply #1074 on: September 17, 2024, 10:13:21 AM »
She must surely realise that the money sloshing around the Juventus mens team from TV, sponsors etc is massive, and Duggie gets his share. The women’s team earns far less money, and she gets her share, which id guess is rather more than other teammates.

This isn’t a new interview though is it, she did this one with us?

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Re: Youri Tielemans
« Reply #1075 on: September 17, 2024, 10:16:45 AM »
Recent as she talks about being at Juventus in the full interview with Gazetta.

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Re: Youri Tielemans
« Reply #1076 on: September 17, 2024, 10:25:30 AM »
The women's game couldn't have had much more support over the last few years - and this is obviously a good thing.  Millions has been pumped into it and they have been given the sort of exposure other team spots could only dream of (rugby, cricket, hockey, netball etc).  I don't think the moaning about pay parity does them any real credit at this stage.  They've been given the platform and it's now surely down to the game to grow on it's own merit.  I think Risso's analogy is a good one.  Same industry but entirely different levels of interest and income.

Women's tennis is (in my opinion) just as engaging as men's and seems to attract similar interest and sponsorship.  I think women's hockey is more entertaining than men's, but unfortunately there's no money in the sport.  It's pretty clear to anyone who watches women's football that whilst they play a good standard, it is miles off at the moment.  But when the crowds and sponsorship increases, so will their income.

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Re: Youri Tielemans
« Reply #1077 on: September 17, 2024, 12:57:01 PM »
She could always sign up to OnlyFans and make a fortune. Perhaps then Doug might complain that he wouldn't make that kind of money if he signed up to it.

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Re: Youri Tielemans
« Reply #1078 on: September 17, 2024, 01:07:09 PM »

Women's tennis is (in my opinion) just as engaging as men's and seems to attract similar interest and sponsorship. 

I'd say for the most part i find women's tennis a lot more 'engaging' than men's but not in the way you were thinking...

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Re: Youri Tielemans
« Reply #1079 on: September 17, 2024, 01:25:21 PM »
Tielemans and Torres had 27.6% between them according to whoscored.

Now THAT is a stat!

Has no one nocked up a graphic of this then Villa/Everton/Tielemans and Torres?!
That could be quite a fun/humiliating trend depending on your position.

 


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