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Author Topic: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?  (Read 24890 times)

Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #45 on: May 30, 2023, 09:15:27 PM »
He was never up to the job - he was a great midfielder - who managed to find an assistant who may, or may not, be a component Championship manager.

Its not his fault he was so shit - he should never have been given one of the hardest jobs in world football.   

Someone else will take a punt on him, and they will regret it too.  But I hold him no ill will, its us that made the mistake in buying into him.



I disagree, a lot of it was specifically his fault.

Picking arguments, alienating and attempting to mind-game some of our own players, that's directly his fault.

The guy is an arrogant fucking chancer, and he got found out.

The only person who comes out of that whole story worse is the guy who made such a ridiculous appointment in the first place, Purslow.

It reminds me of Tom Fox and his "shortlist of one" where the one name was Tim Sherwood.

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #46 on: May 30, 2023, 09:34:55 PM »
No.  We would have been 14 or lower though I reckon

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #47 on: May 30, 2023, 09:50:37 PM »
We would have sold Mings in January because he was boss eyed

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #48 on: May 30, 2023, 10:23:26 PM »
Disaster other than Kamara

probably 17th

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #49 on: May 30, 2023, 10:30:43 PM »
Just enough to stay up I think. But a very nervy last few games, and not much to be happy about.

Wasn't overly for or against him when he came. I hoped he would be good.
There were some good signs that first season. Even in some defeats ( Man City in particular) I though we were really good.
And then the New Year cane and it wall went a bit shit.

Id have sacked him at the end of that season after the poor ru we had. And then maybe after West Ham this season

I can see him joining the list of " did very little managerial after the Villa job"

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #50 on: May 30, 2023, 10:38:43 PM »
He was never up to the job - he was a great midfielder - who managed to find an assistant who may, or may not, be a component Championship manager.

Its not his fault he was so shit - he should never have been given one of the hardest jobs in world football.   

Someone else will take a punt on him, and they will regret it too.  But I hold him no ill will, its us that made the mistake in buying into him.



I disagree, a lot of it was specifically his fault.

Picking arguments, alienating and attempting to mind-game some of our own players, that's directly his fault.

The guy is an arrogant fucking chancer, and he got found out.

The only person who comes out of that whole story worse is the guy who made such a ridiculous appointment in the first place, Purslow.

It reminds me of Tom Fox and his "shortlist of one" where the one name was Tim Sherwood.
I agree he was awful, and should never have been allowed near our great club.

I cant disagree with anything you say - but I don't think anything he did came as a surprise.  We bought whatever it was he was selling.  Its our fault for falling for it.

And by us, I mean the club - not the fans

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #51 on: May 30, 2023, 10:53:50 PM »
There’s a silver lining he’s 4-1 for the Leeds job.

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #52 on: May 30, 2023, 11:00:10 PM »
Was at down to Fulham to see his last game sat about three rows back from the front , so really close to the players
You could tell the players we’re not buying into his philosophy I got the feeling that he was disliked by a few of them, and let’s face it you’re not gonna be at your best playing for someone you don’t like
I think the Brentford game proves that

As others have said, he bought a lot of that on himself
If he does return to management, he will have to learn from his mistakes problem with people like Gerrard is they can’t accept they make mistakes

I hate all things Liverpool FC, but was willing to give him a go When he came. I thought he showed promise at first, and I did like a lot of the things he said
But It just didn’t translate onto the pitch and performances were mostly dire, whatever he was trying to do was not computing and in the end it just became a big mess

Lampard and Gerard are the same bracket, great players, but they’ve got a lot to learn and I’m not sure they’re capable of going back to square one and rebuilding because it will take honesty and admitting your weaknesses and I can’t see them doing that


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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #53 on: May 30, 2023, 11:18:24 PM »
Yes.

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #54 on: May 30, 2023, 11:19:48 PM »
I reckon it would have gone to the final games and we would have lost to Brighton, but stayed up by 1 point thanks to Leeds and Leicester losing. Only 95 stayed behind for the lap of appreciation.

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #55 on: May 30, 2023, 11:20:56 PM »
We'd have been dead and buried before Southampton.

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #56 on: May 30, 2023, 11:21:14 PM »
I wouldn't bank on Leicester losing.

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #57 on: May 30, 2023, 11:24:12 PM »
Nailed on. He got sacked after an easy start fixture wise. We wouldn’t have got a single point from the last few games we’ve just performed so well in,

I thought we were shite in pre-season, it was confirmed at Bournemouth and he should have gone after giving West Ham their first goal, clean sheet and points of the season.

Absolutely clueless.

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #58 on: May 30, 2023, 11:31:26 PM »
He was a vanity appointment by starry-eyed Purslow, but starting the season with three players on the bench who each could have ended up winning Player’s player of the season and supporter’s player of the season was madness. When have we been weaker for having those three on the bench?

I’m surprised he lasted as long as he did and he would have lead us to derby games against the unwashed from SHA and the bitters from Sandwell.

File him under O’Leary, D for Villa managers who alienated players and fans.

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #59 on: May 30, 2023, 11:34:24 PM »
Just because Lampard was mentioned, his win percentage at Chelsea is 9 (nine) percent.

 


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