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Online Duncan Shaw

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1065 on: May 16, 2023, 08:51:26 AM »
I’ll save footy some trouble. Links so far:


Apart from no goalie, and Emi is definitely leaving because some bloke in Argentina/the press say so and him and Emery hate each other.

I reckon that squad will have enough depth for us to navigate the challenges of making Europe. Should put some of us at ease.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1066 on: May 16, 2023, 09:38:55 AM »
The only thing I can say for knowing there's a Chelsea International who Villa are more keen on signing than him.

Has Chukkie realised the error of his ways?

If he actually likes playing football then I hope so, Emery would've been ideal for his career.

Fuck him though.

If he likes playing football is very good point. Was it the game and fortune he went after or was he promised game time? If there’s 1 thing Gerrard did well it was to leave him out and try and make him see what it’s like not playing. It didn’t work and now there’s a chance he’ll end up like the dozens of other young Chelsea players, out on loan and forgotten. If playing means anything to him he’ll be pushing for a move, if he’s happy to sit there then there’s your answer.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1067 on: May 16, 2023, 10:18:41 AM »
I may have said this before, but at the Trust meeting in October, Purslow was quite candid about how the Chukwuemeka went down. He basically said that it wasn't for money, because what we offered him was an eye-watering amount. And it presumably wasn't to do with any assurances about playing time because he would naturally find that more difficult at Chelsea. He basically alluded to the fact that he thinks there were quite a few people very keen to get a share of a large signing on fee, which Chelsea would have been offering. I imagine he was surrounded by people that saw Carney as their chance to make a quick buck, so advised him to accept Chelsea's offer.

At a different point in the evening I'm sure Purslow also said that there were some agents that he would refuse to deal with again, but whether that was linked to Chukwuemeka, I'm not sure.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1068 on: May 16, 2023, 10:22:28 AM »
I may have said this before, but at the Trust meeting in October, Purslow was quite candid about how the Chukwuemeka went down. He basically said that it wasn't for money, because what we offered him was an eye-watering amount. And it presumably wasn't to do with any assurances about playing time because he would naturally find that more difficult at Chelsea. He basically alluded to the fact that he thinks there were quite a few people very keen to get a share of a large signing on fee, which Chelsea would have been offering. I imagine he was surrounded by people that saw Carney as their chance to make a quick buck, so advised him to accept Chelsea's offer.

I don't recall it being mentioned on here before, and it sounds very plausible.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1069 on: May 16, 2023, 10:49:34 AM »
Chukwueze is the one for me. I reckon he'd take to the Premier League like a duck to water.

He's already made 200 appearances for Villareal so I'd expect him to be beyond "a little raw but frighteningly quick" as PW says. He's also strongly linked with Real Madrid.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1070 on: May 16, 2023, 10:59:34 AM »
I am looking forward to a summer of googling Spanish and Portuguese players i have no knowledge of
Those are my favourite sort of signings. Players I've never heard of, then look them up on Wikipedia and Transfermarkt and decide that actually they're brilliant and we're definitely going to win the FA Cup this year.

I can imagine us meeting the £50m release clause of Uruguayan midfielder Ugarte, who plays champions league club Sporting Lisbon in Portugal and speaks Spanish. Other clubs won't.

Players in Portugal and Spain have release clauses written into their contracts, so I believe we know exactly who we want and will make the payments for the deals.

Real Mallorca's Lee Kang-in I could see him being brought in with his release clause matched and is reportedly a reasonable amount of around £15-25m
Asesnio is available on a free from Real Madrid so I think it will be either/or and even both!
Those two are excellent attacking players.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1071 on: May 16, 2023, 11:09:13 AM »
I doubt we'll sign Ugarte, I'll be surprised if he doesn't end up at Liverpool.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1072 on: May 16, 2023, 11:47:20 AM »
I may have said this before, but at the Trust meeting in October, Purslow was quite candid about how the Chukwuemeka went down. He basically said that it wasn't for money, because what we offered him was an eye-watering amount. And it presumably wasn't to do with any assurances about playing time because he would naturally find that more difficult at Chelsea. He basically alluded to the fact that he thinks there were quite a few people very keen to get a share of a large signing on fee, which Chelsea would have been offering. I imagine he was surrounded by people that saw Carney as their chance to make a quick buck, so advised him to accept Chelsea's offer.

At a different point in the evening I'm sure Purslow also said that there were some agents that he would refuse to deal with again, but whether that was linked to Chukwuemeka, I'm not sure.

You’d have thought Gerrard being the player he was would’ve been able to get through to him over any agent if he did receive bad advice. Look at Bellingham for instance, he obviously had very good advice. A move to a club who continually develop young players and play them and out of the goldfish bowl of the PL. He had offers from all over, including Man Utd, but chose a career pathway and the results speak for themselves. Maybe Chuckwuemeka will get his chance next season but this season could not have worked out how he believed it would.
Young players, without much experience of life or the game rely on advice and guidance. Time will tell if he’s received it.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1073 on: May 16, 2023, 11:49:27 AM »
Isn't Chucky a Chelsea fan too?

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1074 on: May 16, 2023, 11:55:47 AM »
I may have said this before, but at the Trust meeting in October, Purslow was quite candid about how the Chukwuemeka went down. He basically said that it wasn't for money, because what we offered him was an eye-watering amount. And it presumably wasn't to do with any assurances about playing time because he would naturally find that more difficult at Chelsea. He basically alluded to the fact that he thinks there were quite a few people very keen to get a share of a large signing on fee, which Chelsea would have been offering. I imagine he was surrounded by people that saw Carney as their chance to make a quick buck, so advised him to accept Chelsea's offer.

At a different point in the evening I'm sure Purslow also said that there were some agents that he would refuse to deal with again, but whether that was linked to Chukwuemeka, I'm not sure.

You’d have thought Gerrard being the player he was would’ve been able to get through to him over any agent if he did receive bad advice. Look at Bellingham for instance, he obviously had very good advice. A move to a club who continually develop young players and play them and out of the goldfish bowl of the PL. He had offers from all over, including Man Utd, but chose a career pathway and the results speak for themselves. Maybe Chuckwuemeka will get his chance next season but this season could not have worked out how he believed it would.
Young players, without much experience of life or the game rely on advice and guidance. Time will tell if he’s received it.
A lot of footballers are a bit thick and sometimes their parent's are not exactly Einstein's, I have heard that is the opposite regarding Bellingham.
So Chuck has gone for Glory instead of focusing on his career and looks like he has egg on his face. The last season will have done nothing for his confidence or development.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1075 on: May 16, 2023, 11:57:35 AM »
Bellingham has a solid family, his old man is a copper, played at lot of non-league and knew people in the game. I doubt know about Carney but I suspect that was not the case for him

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1076 on: May 16, 2023, 12:04:50 PM »
Bellingham has a solid family, his old man is a copper, played at lot of non-league and knew people in the game. I doubt know about Carney but I suspect that was not the case for him

As far as I know his family are pretty sound. He went to Northampton School for Boys, which is one of the best state schools in the country. We know a few people with kids there, and apparently he was a decent student as well as obviously a very good footballer.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1077 on: May 16, 2023, 12:07:11 PM »
I may have said this before, but at the Trust meeting in October, Purslow was quite candid about how the Chukwuemeka went down. He basically said that it wasn't for money, because what we offered him was an eye-watering amount. And it presumably wasn't to do with any assurances about playing time because he would naturally find that more difficult at Chelsea. He basically alluded to the fact that he thinks there were quite a few people very keen to get a share of a large signing on fee, which Chelsea would have been offering. I imagine he was surrounded by people that saw Carney as their chance to make a quick buck, so advised him to accept Chelsea's offer.

At a different point in the evening I'm sure Purslow also said that there were some agents that he would refuse to deal with again, but whether that was linked to Chukwuemeka, I'm not sure.

You’d have thought Gerrard being the player he was would’ve been able to get through to him over any agent if he did receive bad advice. Look at Bellingham for instance, he obviously had very good advice. A move to a club who continually develop young players and play them and out of the goldfish bowl of the PL. He had offers from all over, including Man Utd, but chose a career pathway and the results speak for themselves. Maybe Chuckwuemeka will get his chance next season but this season could not have worked out how he believed it would.
Young players, without much experience of life or the game rely on advice and guidance. Time will tell if he’s received it.
A lot of footballers are a bit thick and sometimes their parent's are not exactly Einstein's, I have heard that is the opposite regarding Bellingham.
So Chuck has gone for Glory instead of focusing on his career and looks like he has egg on his face. The last season will have done nothing for his confidence or development.

At such a young age it’s all too easy to be impressed by the bright lights and money. It’s so vital to have experienced people around you but you learn from your mistakes. If he’s got good people they’ll be in the new managers office in the summer asking questions. He can’t afford another season sitting in the bench or in the stands. He’s had his big move and as he didn’t want to progress steadily with us no doubt he’ll be looking at his future. If he’s happy not to play then there’s the answer people are looking for.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1078 on: May 16, 2023, 12:11:59 PM »
Bellingham has a solid family, his old man is a copper, played at lot of non-league and knew people in the game. I doubt know about Carney but I suspect that was not the case for him

Well they’ve helped him make some very good decisions. He looks and sounds like a very well rounded young bloke. He’s learnt his trade in a fantastic environment and you just can’t see him walking about with a chip on his shoulder.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1079 on: May 16, 2023, 12:12:49 PM »
I may have said this before, but at the Trust meeting in October, Purslow was quite candid about how the Chukwuemeka went down. He basically said that it wasn't for money, because what we offered him was an eye-watering amount. And it presumably wasn't to do with any assurances about playing time because he would naturally find that more difficult at Chelsea. He basically alluded to the fact that he thinks there were quite a few people very keen to get a share of a large signing on fee, which Chelsea would have been offering. I imagine he was surrounded by people that saw Carney as their chance to make a quick buck, so advised him to accept Chelsea's offer.

At a different point in the evening I'm sure Purslow also said that there were some agents that he would refuse to deal with again, but whether that was linked to Chukwuemeka, I'm not sure.

That all makes sense, when you think back to us signing his brother, obviously an extra cash source for family & hangers on.  There was never any sentiment involved as we took Carney & the brother from Northampton but in respect of Carney any decisions this summer need to be made for football not money purposes - he’d massively benefit for a year under Kompany at Burnley for instance not another festering around Chelsea with no European football.

If the advisors around him have changed I’d happily take him back at a cut price because Emery would bring him on massively….but not as part of the ATM mentality that his career has started under.

 


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