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Offline clash city rocker

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Re: O'Leary was right
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2023, 01:55:08 PM »
Nothing to do with being fickle he simply wasn't up to the job. Remind me...how many jobs has he had since ?

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Re: O'Leary was right
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2023, 01:55:52 PM »
I did something solid this morning if that helps.

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Re: O'Leary was right
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2023, 02:05:20 PM »
O'Leary didn't understand the meaning of the word 'fickle' and nor does anybody who parrots him.

Indeed.

When he induldged in that shite it was an arse covering excercise for his latest bad run, to go alongside such other gems as 'we can't compete with the Boltons and Middlesboroughs of this world' and 'Aston Villa last won a trophy in 1980 summat' (factually incorrect, shows how much he really cared).

Yet he's quoted by some Villa fans still as if he's a wise old sage.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: O'Leary was right
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2023, 02:06:46 PM »
He first said it after the Wycombe game.

Online Paul.S

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Re: O'Leary was right
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2023, 02:08:30 PM »
We are fickle.A lot of fans wanted Watkins,Mings and McGinn out.They are solid performers now.
Apologies ,the headline was Evening Mail style clickbait.But  we are a pretty decent side.19 points from 11 games under Emery.Call that 38 from 22 and we'd be 7th,3 points behind Fulham with 3 games in hand.It's not just new manager bounce,Danks handed 9th place Brentford a hammering and we recently lost unluckily 3 in a row.
We don't need major summer changes.A pacy wide goalscorer and Guendozi or similar (Maddison ?) would get us more goals and we would concede fewer by keeping possession better.Add Diego Carlos and we can really compete.

It depends on who you want to compete with.
To compete in the mid table to bottom half sides then yes but to start building a group of players to compete for a European place then we need a few new players. Emery has said he wants us to play more attacking football so although I’d keep Watkins, McGinn and Mings within the squad we need players to provide competition. Strength in midfield is needed, a wide player with proper pace, another forward, a midfielder who creates regularly and 2 central defenders. I suspect a few will leave and we may introduce 1 or 2 of our young players but the quality needs to improve somewhat. Good scouting and knowledge is needed and for once we have a coach who is proven.
Fickle? I’d say for a club our size the support has proven over the last decade or so they are far from fickle. You compare what we’ve gone through since Lerner chucked it in to any club with our pedigree and I’d say we have a fantastic fan base who just want a competitive team. As for O’Leary, can we not try and forget he was ever at our club?

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Re: O'Leary was right
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2023, 02:11:41 PM »
Worst thread title ever.
And the least accurate.


Can we change it to, if you don’t like Villa fans, here is your thread.

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Re: O'Leary was right
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2023, 02:15:57 PM »
We are fickle.A lot of fans wanted Watkins,Mings and McGinn out.They are solid performers now.
Apologies ,the headline was Evening Mail style clickbait.But  we are a pretty decent side.19 points from 11 games under Emery.Call that 38 from 22 and we'd be 7th,3 points behind Fulham with 3 games in hand.It's not just new manager bounce,Danks handed 9th place Brentford a hammering and we recently lost unluckily 3 in a row.
We don't need major summer changes.A pacy wide goalscorer and Guendozi or similar (Maddison ?) would get us more goals and we would concede fewer by keeping possession better.Add Diego Carlos and we can really compete.

Define a lot.  20, 50, 100? 

A lot of fans may have questioned their form since Emery's arrival but wanting them out?   

Offline Bad English

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Re: O'Leary was right
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2023, 02:29:33 PM »
Did we ever find out what a sugarbag is?
A shitbag.

Offline Bad English

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Re: O'Leary was right
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2023, 02:30:41 PM »
Also, thread title by roblevanneur.*

*One for the speakers of French obviously.

Online ChicagoLion

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Re: O'Leary was right
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2023, 02:38:18 PM »
Also, thread title by roblevanneur.*

*One for the speakers of French obviously.
Inconstant

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Re: O'Leary was right
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2023, 02:40:04 PM »
For fuck sake, all football fans are fickle. It goes with the territory.

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Re: O'Leary was right
« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2023, 02:42:56 PM »
We are fickle.A lot of fans wanted Watkins,Mings and McGinn out.They are solid performers now.
Apologies ,the headline was Evening Mail style clickbait.But  we are a pretty decent side.19 points from 11 games under Emery.Call that 38 from 22 and we'd be 7th,3 points behind Fulham with 3 games in hand.It's not just new manager bounce,Danks handed 9th place Brentford a hammering and we recently lost unluckily 3 in a row.
We don't need major summer changes.A pacy wide goalscorer and Guendozi or similar (Maddison ?) would get us more goals and we would concede fewer by keeping possession better.Add Diego Carlos and we can really compete.
Stop it please. We have won a few games and lost nearly as many. Wait till we have achieved something. And by the way I would say that three you have mentioned are not yet there. Don't forget we conceded 11 in 3 games.

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Re: O'Leary was right
« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2023, 03:01:37 PM »
We are fickle.A lot of fans wanted Watkins,Mings and McGinn out.They are solid performers now.
Apologies ,the headline was Evening Mail style clickbait.But  we are a pretty decent side.19 points from 11 games under Emery.Call that 38 from 22 and we'd be 7th,3 points behind Fulham with 3 games in hand.It's not just new manager bounce,Danks handed 9th place Brentford a hammering and we recently lost unluckily 3 in a row.
We don't need major summer changes.A pacy wide goalscorer and Guendozi or similar (Maddison ?) would get us more goals and we would concede fewer by keeping possession better.Add Diego Carlos and we can really compete.

Define a lot.  20, 50, 100? 

A lot of fans may have questioned their form since Emery's arrival but wanting them out?

To be fair McGinn was being referred to as a fat knacker on here not too long ago. Loads wanted Watkins gone and Mings, let's just say he divides opinions (mine included). I'd be more of the view we have a group of under achieving players, short a few additions from troubling the Europa league spots, but were lacking proper organisation and coaching primarily.

Offline Percy McCarthy

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Re: O'Leary was right
« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2023, 03:17:35 PM »
I object. I didn’t want Watkins or Mings out and I still don’t. I wouldn’t mind if McGinn left or is left mainly on the bench.

Offline rob_bridge

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Re: O'Leary was right
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2023, 03:25:10 PM »
We are like it or not a better team with Mings in the side - I compare him to Tony Adams at Arsenal in that respect. Ironically O'Leary was a better footballer than he but defence was less cohesive than when Adams/Bould played.

Watkins was undone by having 4 attacking newbies join in a 4 month period Sept 21 - Jan 02, and a clueless manager who didn't know how to set up a side to attack. He is much better now.

McGinn - done well last couple of game but squad player at best and has been since Grealish left

 


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